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It was a fool's bargain destined to ruin, as the price was the dismantling of the very movements that scared capital into making this possible.
Wait, so you'd prefer postwar societies didn't ameliorate inequalities?
 

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These are the kind of people who get irrationally angry about people doing "useless" degrees...
You have to understand that it's perfectly rational for practical people who do the tasks that make society function to think little of 4-year adventures in pure rationalism with little connection to reality. At least most of the people you're denigrating have the dignity to resent the degree and not the degree-holder.
 
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You have to understand that it's perfectly rational for practical people who do the tasks that make society function to think little of 4-year adventures in pure rationalism with little connection to reality. At least most of the people you're denigrating have the dignity to resent the degree and not the degree-holder.
Who decides what has connection to reality and what doesn't? For instance these days its very much in vogue for the right to claim that CRT has no bearing on reality despite the other sides and plenty of historical ideas not agreeing with that. Similarly those who follow gender studies might argue that there is VERY much to talk about when examining things like the position of woman in the workforce.

Also those that groan in disgust about gender studies tend not to have any higher opinions about those that chose to follow gender studies so I'm not sure you're correct that they don't resent the degree holder.
 

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You have to understand that it's perfectly rational for practical people who do the tasks that make society function to think little of 4-year adventures in pure rationalism with little connection to reality. At least most of the people you're denigrating have the dignity to resent the degree and not the degree-holder.
I am 9000% percent certain that folks mad about "useless" college degrees aren't mad because the gender studies folks aren't doing studies and are relying purely on logic and reason, Like, you're doing a rationalism there.

And isn't that the whole point of Terminal Blue's argument? "These people aren't going materially enriching things, there for they are useless, that is unacceptable under capitalism"? Like shit dude, same logic applies to priests, but I don't hear the clamor about all these non-denominational pastors running around.

Speaking as a former Catholic, "hate the sin but love the sinner" has always been bullshit
 
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Lmao, a bunch of self described gender critical radical feminists created a cis-only chat app that relies on facial recognition to get in and it's going predictably

 
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I saw something like this in an episode of Black Dynamite for fuck's sake, now people are doing it for real....
 

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I don't mind those gender studies programs because personally I find a lot of that stuff confusing and appreciate people studying it in my stead, so that they can explain it to this dumb Xennial. 🙃
 

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Anti-CRT representative goes out of her way to make sure she doesn't call the 3/5 slave voting thing racist...


Because there is nothing scarier than calling something racist. Also, I'd like to point out that the slaves never actually got to vote. The 3/5 isnt the actual problem
 

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I had a professor who claimed the US needed an other(enemy) to fight against, and that's the reason why they opposed the USSR. I then proceed to talk about Holodomor, and she still didn't change her mind. And you wonder why I dislike so many in Academia.
 

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I had a professor who claimed the US needed an other(enemy) to fight against, and that's the reason why they opposed the USSR. I then proceed to talk about Holodomor, and she still didn't change her mind.
The Holodomor had absolutely little to do with the US and the USSR being antagonistic towards each other. Hell, the US (along with other "Allied" countries) participated in the Russian Civil War with 13,000 troops fighting against the Bolsheviks; this was 14 years prior to the Holodomor occurring! It's no wonder she didn't change her mind when you advanced a factually incorrect position.

And you wonder why I dislike so many in Academia.
The answer seems to be that you're a poor student who believes he already knows everything and is only in college to get "a piece of paper" for a job.
 

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The Holodomor had absolutely little to do with the US and the USSR being antagonistic towards each other. Hell, the US (along with other "Allied" countries) participated in the Russian Civil War with 13,000 troops fighting against the Bolsheviks; this was 14 years prior to the Holodomor occurring! It's no wonder she didn't change her mind when you advanced a factually incorrect position.



The answer seems to be that you're a poor student who believes he already knows everything and is only in college to get "a piece of paper" for a job.
My point is that the USSR was an authoritarian, oppressive regime who deserves it for their brutality towards it's citizens, and that Americans were rightfully afraid of it.

Get it tankie.
 
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Wait, so you'd prefer postwar societies didn't ameliorate inequalities?
I imagine he's more concerned with the fact that the power structure of wealth and capital is still there, it's just laying low for a bit and that ultimately, as soon as they decide to, the holders of capital can just start shifting things back in their favour. It might be nice to not have to wait for things like a world war or global pandemic for the proles to be able to buy a house.
 

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I think the biggest crime is that tree apparently being worth half a million dollars. For reference, the big one in seen in most movies for decades cost $73K

Either someone is being significantly ripped off or some is doing an insurance scam (or likely, Doocy pulled a number out of his ass.)
I mean even if it's true, a half million dollar Christmas tree has to be the least Christmas spirit thing that exists. Good Christianing there guys, spend half a million on a tree while people starve on the streets. It's exactly what jesus would have wanted.
 

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I mean even if it's true, a half million dollar Christmas tree has to be the least Christmas spirit thing that exists. Good Christianing there guys, spend half a million on a tree while people starve on the streets. It's exactly what jesus would have wanted.
Tbh, Jesus doesn't give a fuck about any xmas tree
 

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I am 9000% percent certain that folks mad about "useless" college degrees aren't mad because the gender studies folks aren't doing studies and are relying purely on logic and reason, Like, you're doing a rationalism there.

And isn't that the whole point of Terminal Blue's argument? "These people aren't going materially enriching things, there for they are useless, that is unacceptable under capitalism"? Like shit dude, same logic applies to priests, but I don't hear the clamor about all these non-denominational pastors running around.

Speaking as a former Catholic, "hate the sin but love the sinner" has always been bullshit

As much as I have distain for the Church and think it's one of the greatest scams in history, it still has a function and value as such in modern society.

Some people actually need some level of guidance or there to be some idea of a motivation beyond police and courts to not be assholes. (Insert joke about how it clearly doesn't work so well because I'm such an asshole). Churches and other religious establishments can also serve as hubs for organising relief efforts and charity efforts with priests taking a role in organisation of them.

If you want to argue against the massive corporate megachurches then you'd have a point but that's like arguing Scientists are useless because of Laboratoire Garnier

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Useless degrees do very much exist though and I'd argue that it becomes useless when the fields are being shown to be jokes with little to no validity to them or their claims especially when said fields seem to exist on some level solely to target actually useful field and call for them to change.

The field that birthed the Fallists calling for Science to accept African boosh magic as real.
Fields constantly yelling how Stem needs more diversity while their own field is 96% - 98% women.

I mean think how much could be done in labs with some of the funding going to bullshit like "The feminist study of glaciology" or as another example "The social conventions and strata of Twilight conventions" which I think was a nice $15K expense claimed just to go to the convention, that's a full new machine for some labs replacing stuff that's been in operation since the 80s and held together via sheer force of will from the lab techs and is actually the parts of 4 other different machines whose parts fit or were a close enough match to be make do.

You want to talk about problems of capitalism? Useless degrees are such a problem because mostly they exist just to generate money for the institutions off gullible people with a min / max approach to them with minimum cost maximum return.

Sorry if this sounds bitter but my old department closed down because it had was running a -£1M year budget because it was deemed not worthwhile because the accountants for the university decided to sell off $1 Billion ideas and research for £32,000 a time because it was more cost efficient in their eyes to just sell the stuff than try to actually negotiate and properly try to evaluate literally ground-breaking discoveries that created whole industry sectors.

Useless degrees exist because it's cheeper to outsource the need for trained people in more expensive fields to train them to other countries.