"Games Cause Rape" Psychiatrist Defends Her Position
- Thread starter Andy Chalk
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BUT GAIZ I THOUGHT EVERY1 KNEW!!! LOL SILLY GAMRZ!
What an idiot. Her response does little to acknowledge the questions asked and her 'evidence' is complete rubbish. If she's going to make such stupid announcements to the media (or at all), she should at least be prepared to back up her claims with proof. All she's done here is dodge the topic and pretend that it's all fixed now just because she says so.
I'm curious to see where this goes from here, assuming anywhere at all. I get the feeling that no matter what the rest of the world says or does, she's going to stay in her little "I'm right, you're wrong," dream world.
What an idiot. Her response does little to acknowledge the questions asked and her 'evidence' is complete rubbish. If she's going to make such stupid announcements to the media (or at all), she should at least be prepared to back up her claims with proof. All she's done here is dodge the topic and pretend that it's all fixed now just because she says so.
I'm curious to see where this goes from here, assuming anywhere at all. I get the feeling that no matter what the rest of the world says or does, she's going to stay in her little "I'm right, you're wrong," dream world.
"Video games cause RAPE!"
*Two weeks later, after much abuse and hate mail*
"Shit, I actually have to try and prove this? I though the gaming community was just a bunch of lowlifes who dropped out of school, have a criminal record longer than the dick growing out of my head and are genuinely retarded. They shouldn't have the common sense to question my accusations because it is still cool to blame media for every problem in the world!"
*Two weeks later, after much abuse and hate mail*
"Shit, I actually have to try and prove this? I though the gaming community was just a bunch of lowlifes who dropped out of school, have a criminal record longer than the dick growing out of my head and are genuinely retarded. They shouldn't have the common sense to question my accusations because it is still cool to blame media for every problem in the world!"
So wait only two studies, did she cite more ?
Im interested because Doctors also have a proffessional code of conduct requiring best practice and demonstrable skill training. If she accepts studies blindly without critique then shes clearly not using evidence based practice and is just lazy inept & beleives anything written down.
Pro-tip for drug seekers this is the woman you want as a doctor.
Im interested because Doctors also have a proffessional code of conduct requiring best practice and demonstrable skill training. If she accepts studies blindly without critique then shes clearly not using evidence based practice and is just lazy inept & beleives anything written down.
Pro-tip for drug seekers this is the woman you want as a doctor.
I'm still curious about one thing, what games do promote sexual violence? I know about Rapelay (who doesn't?), and I presume there's others like that from Japan, But I can't say I've played anything in the more core western market like that, which is where something really has to be if you want to make an argument against it. Otherwise it's just fringe media for already crazy people.
There's games with sexist sexual content like Duke Nukem, and games with sex, like mass effect, Fahrenheit and GTA. But that's either for adolescent macho chauvinism, or part of building character relationships, so I'm just not seeing any connection.
Also, with the post columbine polls, were they before or after FOX started announcing that doom caused the shootings?
There's games with sexist sexual content like Duke Nukem, and games with sex, like mass effect, Fahrenheit and GTA. But that's either for adolescent macho chauvinism, or part of building character relationships, so I'm just not seeing any connection.
Also, with the post columbine polls, were they before or after FOX started announcing that doom caused the shootings?
well thank goodness she's not releasing a book on amazon, remember what happened last time.......OH WAIT lololololololololololol.
Media psychologist.
What more really need be said?
I want to applaud her for this incredibly deft manoeuvreing though:
"When the Columbine murders took place, there were national polls where people voted on what they believed caused the two young men to kill. Media violence ranked high on the list, so I, obviously mistakenly, assumed that people still knew about the studies showing this connection - and believed them to have proven the link."
Recipe for success:
1) Show a poll (or any other statistic) about what people believe about something
2) Act as though you're using the result as proof that people know about these issues, not proof that the conclusion of the participants is correct
3) Subtly combine the analysis of the poll that shows people to know about the issue with the faulty analysis of the poll that assumes the people are right about what they believe
4) ???
5) Profit (and I'm sure she will).
What more really need be said?
I want to applaud her for this incredibly deft manoeuvreing though:
"When the Columbine murders took place, there were national polls where people voted on what they believed caused the two young men to kill. Media violence ranked high on the list, so I, obviously mistakenly, assumed that people still knew about the studies showing this connection - and believed them to have proven the link."
Recipe for success:
1) Show a poll (or any other statistic) about what people believe about something
2) Act as though you're using the result as proof that people know about these issues, not proof that the conclusion of the participants is correct
3) Subtly combine the analysis of the poll that shows people to know about the issue with the faulty analysis of the poll that assumes the people are right about what they believe
4) ???
5) Profit (and I'm sure she will).
I stopped reading once a certain news channel was mentioned. Is anyone even honestly surprised anymore? Does anyone really care?Andy Chalk said:
We're obviously not going to make them love video games, so I say let them hate, and stop treating them like they were a valid and credible news source anyone should even care about.
Somehow I think that FOX News gave her their guide on newspeak. The woman presents no studies, and fails to even name any, any real academic or intellectual would be ashamed by that.
So basically: Dr. Carole Lieberman, YOU WILL SIT AND FOLLOW THE PROPER PROCEDURES.
So basically: Dr. Carole Lieberman, YOU WILL SIT AND FOLLOW THE PROPER PROCEDURES.
As far as I recall, Arnie made plenty of action movies after Last Action Hero... So what victory was there? I'm still waiting for these facts she claims exist. I didn't see any facts in that statement that pertain to the argument. As many have stated, a national poll is merely a popularity contest for a topic, not an actual fact.
I can't tell which is happening faster, my brain cells exploding from the overpowering levels of stupid or my brain cells committing suicide from those same levels of stupid.
To quote Yahtzee, "as the man said to the creator of the rocket fueled by manuer, 'this shit won't fly'."