Games that you mentally declare non-canon.
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Star Wars: The Old Republic. Nonsense. The expanded lore wasn't this disregarded since Attack of the Clones. Also, I've seen many free-to-play MMOs that are better.
...in fact...
I think every Star Wars game designed after The Phantom Menace came out is non-canon. That includes The Force Unleashed: A story about a Super Jedi, who could defeat anyone who came along, starting the Rebel Alliance by accident (spoiler alert).
What I want to know is when Lucas Arts are going to drop this shallow pretense: That the prequel trilogy wasn't seven or eight hours of constant agony drilled right into the fore-brain; declare the whole confused lot of it non-cannon and move on.
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Metroid Other M
Enter the Matrix
Were there any games based on Star Trek: Enterprise? Well, those ones.
How about games based on the 2009 Star Trek? Throw those in the NC pile too...
Assassins Creed 2 Brotherhood
Assassins Creed 2 Revelation
Assassins Creed 2 Another Sequel
Assassins Creed 2 The Sequel after Another Sequel
Silent Hill Origins
Assassins Creed 2 The Prequel
And, oddly enough, the original Fable. I played Fable 2 first, and the poorly-explained history was, in my mind, better than what was actually shown.
Star Wars: The Old Republic. Nonsense. The expanded lore wasn't this disregarded since Attack of the Clones. Also, I've seen many free-to-play MMOs that are better.
...in fact...
I think every Star Wars game designed after The Phantom Menace came out is non-canon. That includes The Force Unleashed: A story about a Super Jedi, who could defeat anyone who came along, starting the Rebel Alliance by accident (spoiler alert).
What I want to know is when Lucas Arts are going to drop this shallow pretense: That the prequel trilogy wasn't seven or eight hours of constant agony drilled right into the fore-brain; declare the whole confused lot of it non-cannon and move on.
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Metroid Other M
Enter the Matrix
Were there any games based on Star Trek: Enterprise? Well, those ones.
How about games based on the 2009 Star Trek? Throw those in the NC pile too...
Assassins Creed 2 Brotherhood
Assassins Creed 2 Revelation
Assassins Creed 2 Another Sequel
Assassins Creed 2 The Sequel after Another Sequel
Silent Hill Origins
Assassins Creed 2 The Prequel
And, oddly enough, the original Fable. I played Fable 2 first, and the poorly-explained history was, in my mind, better than what was actually shown.
Dawn of war 2. Incredibly repetitive and with a total lack of any epic feel that DoW had. I mean why would you take a system were you could control 80 or so marines and 5-6 tanks to were you control less than a dozen in total - most of the time less.
DoW really had that epic "galaxy at war" kind of feel to it and some of the battles were properly tense and tight. Dawn 2 just made me bored "Oh did all my squad members die? Sorry I feel asleep."
DoW really had that epic "galaxy at war" kind of feel to it and some of the battles were properly tense and tight. Dawn 2 just made me bored "Oh did all my squad members die? Sorry I feel asleep."
Do play Colours, it's in the Unleashed style but a lot better.TerribleAssassin said:
They also do have great music tbh, wouldn't say the best going but definately up there with the best of em.
The Awakening DLC is sort of a sequel, I liked it better than DA2. It's set after DA:O where you fight dragons and broodmothers and meet sentient darkspawn and Anders still has a personality. It references your choices in the first game (if you imported) more than DA2 as well.The proper sequel, in my eyes. DA2 was just some bizarre spinoff where the protagonist was a white-haired mage who hates people.OniaPL said:
Max Payne 3, just... why...
I see a surprisingly large amount of Fallout 3 haters here. Even if it did travel far away from the first two games it opened up a wasteland world for another generation.
Although, I miss the dark humour
*munches on fingers dipped in garlic*
I see a surprisingly large amount of Fallout 3 haters here. Even if it did travel far away from the first two games it opened up a wasteland world for another generation.
Although, I miss the dark humour
*munches on fingers dipped in garlic*
Supreme Commander 2.
I loved the Aeon Illuminate. So why, in Supcom 2, was it reduced to the virtually unrelated story of two bickering yank teenagers with no obvious connection to the illuminate other than using the units? When I heard that Squeenix were going to be involved in Supcom 2, I was thrilled. Japanese giant robot designs and western story-telling? Hoorah!
But nope. They put Square Enix on the damned story. What, in the fucking hell...
I loved the Aeon Illuminate. So why, in Supcom 2, was it reduced to the virtually unrelated story of two bickering yank teenagers with no obvious connection to the illuminate other than using the units? When I heard that Squeenix were going to be involved in Supcom 2, I was thrilled. Japanese giant robot designs and western story-telling? Hoorah!
But nope. They put Square Enix on the damned story. What, in the fucking hell...
Devil May Cry 2
Mass Effect 2 and 3
I like Mass Effect 2, but that game's main plot had no fucking point.
Mass Effect 2 and 3
I like Mass Effect 2, but that game's main plot had no fucking point.
The existence of Myst, the existence of Myst II and the existence of Myst IV are not canonically possible. There can be two of them, but not all three (and declaring the trap book Myst II non-canon really wrecks a lot of stuff and doesn't really fix the inconsistencies in I and IV).
However, Uru's explanation of "instancing" takes the cake.
Since each player can exist in their own "instance" of any "age", and the books on their shelf all link to their own "instance", and you can only play with other people in instanced ages by using the Nexus or having them use your bookshelf directly, this means that there's an identical age for every single person.
Which is fine, until you realize that the books link to other places that already exist.
This means that:
http://www.mystjourney.com/img/screenshots/uru-06.jpg
...there are thousands of identical tombs in the universe with identical security, identical damage, and identical body of an identical king from an identical background leading identical civilizations in identical giant underground caves...
http://www.mystjourney.com/img/screenshots/uru-01.jpg
...underneath identical New Mexicos accessible by identical volcanoes in the desert.
It also means that there's thousands of these mindscrews floating throughout the universe:
<img width=400>http://www.mtn-man.org/images/URUWide/wide-ahnonay01.jpg
Sorry, no. "Instancing" is a gameplay convenience, the reality is that the written page will link to the closest version findable.
However, Uru's explanation of "instancing" takes the cake.
Since each player can exist in their own "instance" of any "age", and the books on their shelf all link to their own "instance", and you can only play with other people in instanced ages by using the Nexus or having them use your bookshelf directly, this means that there's an identical age for every single person.
Which is fine, until you realize that the books link to other places that already exist.
This means that:
http://www.mystjourney.com/img/screenshots/uru-06.jpg
...there are thousands of identical tombs in the universe with identical security, identical damage, and identical body of an identical king from an identical background leading identical civilizations in identical giant underground caves...
http://www.mystjourney.com/img/screenshots/uru-01.jpg
...underneath identical New Mexicos accessible by identical volcanoes in the desert.
It also means that there's thousands of these mindscrews floating throughout the universe:
<img width=400>http://www.mtn-man.org/images/URUWide/wide-ahnonay01.jpg
Sorry, no. "Instancing" is a gameplay convenience, the reality is that the written page will link to the closest version findable.
Alternatively, my Daggerfall fanboy inside can (and will) point at The Warp in the West and say "NOPE."AlotFirst said:
Castlevania: Lords of Shadow. There was nothing wrong with Lament of Innocence's story aside from it not being needed really, but sure lets go ahead and make a new story that is incredibly cliche and borrows heavily from GoW in both gameplay, and more than a few plot points. Oh you are angry at the lords of shadow (gods) for your wife's death? Take this chain weapon and dodgeroll/quicktime event your way to putting satan in a headlock! Then you become the evil you were trying to destroy dun dun dun. Seriously the series was perhaps a bit stale, but it didn't need to be reborn as a DLC cashgrab with no real saving grace aside from the voice work and music. Which have never been an issue in the series IMO.
Metroid: Other M. Even if you liked the game you'd probably rather be playing ANY other metroid game. Even the pinball one.
Silent Hill: Shattered Memories/Homecoming/Book of Secrets/The movies
Chrono Cross (needs to die in a fire like all the characters from CT apparently)
All Legacy of Kain Games after Soul Reaver. I prefer to think they used the original intended ending that is already on the disc. Even though the plot after SR just BARELY makes any sense with only one glaring exception (Vorador's miraculous recapitation) its just some of the most convoluted and asinine crap I've ever suffered through. The games themselves aren't that great after SR either. I kind of liked BO2 and Defiance at times but they were short lived.
All Lufia games besides the original 2
Tenchu Z, and Shadow Assassins. The former because I never played it, and the latter because it sucked and the only actual plot point is at the very end. And it sucks, even though it was completely surprising. Also the game has probably killed the series so its not worth remembering. Also the DS game really sucked, but as I only played a few hours of it idk if it had a plot.
Metroid: Other M. Even if you liked the game you'd probably rather be playing ANY other metroid game. Even the pinball one.
Silent Hill: Shattered Memories/Homecoming/Book of Secrets/The movies
Chrono Cross (needs to die in a fire like all the characters from CT apparently)
All Legacy of Kain Games after Soul Reaver. I prefer to think they used the original intended ending that is already on the disc. Even though the plot after SR just BARELY makes any sense with only one glaring exception (Vorador's miraculous recapitation) its just some of the most convoluted and asinine crap I've ever suffered through. The games themselves aren't that great after SR either. I kind of liked BO2 and Defiance at times but they were short lived.
All Lufia games besides the original 2
Tenchu Z, and Shadow Assassins. The former because I never played it, and the latter because it sucked and the only actual plot point is at the very end. And it sucks, even though it was completely surprising. Also the game has probably killed the series so its not worth remembering. Also the DS game really sucked, but as I only played a few hours of it idk if it had a plot.
Haven't even played ME3 but I've found out about the ending and why the Reapers do what they do. Bioware, I am disappoint. If you have a badass incomprehensible eldritch abomination, you NEVER explain why they do what they do or how they work. They are no longer interesting once you do that.
You're good enough storytellers that you should have known this.
Anyway, that and the ending is the reason I pretend that the series got canceled after ME2.
You're good enough storytellers that you should have known this.
Anyway, that and the ending is the reason I pretend that the series got canceled after ME2.