So in other words: blaming a woman who had nothing do with Rolfe's content changes. They are still blaming it a woman, so it's the same difference. Those psychotic and toxic fans can still go fuck themselves.
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Well it's not the same difference. Because you have to look at the context.
In this case they are bashing on a woman, but that isn't the same as bashing her BECAUSE she is a woman. Intent is the difference between accidental death and homicide.
Look we all know that "fans" are fucking stupid and horrible people in a lot of cases. But we can at least try to reason where that anger comes from rather than trying to label it something it's not, because if you mislabel it then you are misunderstanding it. And if you misunderstand it, you can not fix it.
Still not a good look either way. They're still blaming a woman for something she didn't do nor had no control over. They can get fucked for that, and I'll hear nothing else otherwise. You are really not good when it comes to this type of stuff whenever a woman's being harassed or victimized half the time. I'm sorry to say that, but I've noticed this on you when it comes to stuff like this. We're getting off topic and i'm just gonna leave it there.
Here are the other statements from the second wind staff.
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Well that’s his M.O. in reviews so par for the course I guess.
Again, I can't really put a lot of stock into what these people say about Nick because Nicks past is there and his track record is there. Second Wind only exists because he was fired, and you aren't fired in a vacuum. Also a lot of it reads like people just protecting their job, which is fine. Frost did say he was making another video with more receipts in it and that he didn't want this first video bogged down by all the clips and context so that he could just air his thoughts in this video while the second one would back up what he said. So we have to wait an see what that all amounts up too.
I will say that for me it's really hard to take anything these statements say with any real value. For two reasons.
1. As I stated before Yahtzee has shown he just wants to make his shit and be left alone while someone handles giving him a check. In that way he is the model employee, he does his job well and just wants to collect a check and clock out. As a result even if Nick is a dickhead he doesn't really have any reason to deal with Nick so long as things continue as normal.
2. The rest of the staff of second wind need Yahtzee's pull to get eyes on their own content, meaning if Yahtzee said "fuck it" and did his own thing, they would likely flounder. Jack saying they would be fine without Yahtz is a bold faced lie just looking at their numbers. No video pulls in anything remotely close to Yahtz's videos and the views they do get are Yahtz fans who are just watching because it's the same channel. So if Yahtz were to leave so would a lot of those views on the side content.
Frankly I only watch Yahtz's videos because the rest of that crew are terribly boring and have really boomerish takes on gaming as a whole. Much in the same way I don't like The Video Game Nerd's content because James doesn't really like games made after the SNES and his takes really show it. It's like he is stuck in the same past he thrives in and was unwilling to make content beyond what he knew as a child.
I will say that for me it's really hard to take anything these statements say with any real value. For two reasons.
1. As I stated before Yahtzee has shown he just wants to make his shit and be left alone while someone handles giving him a check. In that way he is the model employee, he does his job well and just wants to collect a check and clock out. As a result even if Nick is a dickhead he doesn't really have any reason to deal with Nick so long as things continue as normal.
2. The rest of the staff of second wind need Yahtzee's pull to get eyes on their own content, meaning if Yahtzee said "fuck it" and did his own thing, they would likely flounder. Jack saying they would be fine without Yahtz is a bold faced lie just looking at their numbers. No video pulls in anything remotely close to Yahtz's videos and the views they do get are Yahtz fans who are just watching because it's the same channel. So if Yahtz were to leave so would a lot of those views on the side content.
Frankly I only watch Yahtz's videos because the rest of that crew are terribly boring and have really boomerish takes on gaming as a whole. Much in the same way I don't like The Video Game Nerd's content because James doesn't really like games made after the SNES and his takes really show it. It's like he is stuck in the same past he thrives in and was unwilling to make content beyond what he knew as a child.
I think I'm just gonna wash my hands of Second Wind and all involved. Which is a pity because Yahtzee, Frost and JM8 all made content that I enjoyed, but I just really have had my fill of drama, Internet or otherwise, and this feels like a drama geyser waiting to erupt again.
In what way? I'd say less Boomer and more just contrary for the sake of it. Or holding on the takes that got old back in the early to mid 2010s. KC and Marty on The Devil May Cry franchise. "Nothing happens in the classic games! V has a horrible dodge! (proceeds to the mindlessly spam jump thinking it'll get him out of trouble every single time)". Even when playing DmC, KC screws up badly on something simple, yet he nor Marty won't blame the game.
Yeah maybe it's that. Something about their commentary is just off in general about games. But it sort of feels like an unwillingness to enjoy a modern game, if that makes sense.
Which is weird, because Marty enjoyed the hell out of Hellblade 2 (Because it's a really short game), yet scoffs and gets mad at GoW Rag for being "too grindy and too long", Even though you don't have to do any of the side, quest to get through the gaming can get through it pretty smoothly and quickly depending on difficulty. I Appreciate shorter games and prefer those as well, but i'm not always gonna scoff at a long game. Especially if that long game is paced well or doesn't outstay its run time.
Not weird. Journo dumdums loved Hellblade 2 because it was easy and very pretty. Hold forward, look at the shiny stuff, roll credits. They like games like that because they aren't really games and don't require much out of them. One afternoon to play through, and write a review on, boom done for the week, easy peasey.
How the fuck was GoW grindy? Long is subjective but what do you have to grind for? See this is my problem, there is plenty to complain about in these games, but these people always complain about shit that makes no fucking sense. AT least when Yahtzee shit's on a game, his turds land on things that make sense.
I watched Frosts thing.
Im a little mixed.
Im an adult, Ive worked in the corporate world all my life, and a lot of what Frost calls unethical, in my honest opinion is just how capitalism works. To get to that magical retirement land you always ask for more and take anything offered, assuming its legal.
Of course I wish we lived in magical communism land, but we don't. In that context Nick had an obligation to himself to take advantage of any opportunity available as far as handouts and connections go.
Largely Frosts legitimate beef is that every org Nick put together, Nick treated as his business. Id side with Frost that SWG branded itself as a collective and it seems obvious that Nick still continued to treat it as his business without making that clear to subscribers. If everyone knew Nick took home twice what everyone else did and maintained IP control would people still subscribe..mmm difficult to say.
The mudslinging I don't care for. Frost is trying to paint Nick as a heel, rather than a shrewd opportunist. Frost would be better served sticking to the financial issues.
That said, as previously mentioned, I never dug SWG. Lately I only watch Cold Take and to a lesser extent Ramblomatic. Yahtzees charm has faded for me. Hes not doing anything wrong. Its a Simpsons thing. I used to get out of bed for his content, but I only bother now when Im curious about a game.
I applaud Frost for sticking to his beliefs on how SWG should be run and will subscribe to whatever he does, but as a corporate shill myself I just don't find this to be as big a scandal as he makes it out to be.
Im a little mixed.
Im an adult, Ive worked in the corporate world all my life, and a lot of what Frost calls unethical, in my honest opinion is just how capitalism works. To get to that magical retirement land you always ask for more and take anything offered, assuming its legal.
Of course I wish we lived in magical communism land, but we don't. In that context Nick had an obligation to himself to take advantage of any opportunity available as far as handouts and connections go.
Largely Frosts legitimate beef is that every org Nick put together, Nick treated as his business. Id side with Frost that SWG branded itself as a collective and it seems obvious that Nick still continued to treat it as his business without making that clear to subscribers. If everyone knew Nick took home twice what everyone else did and maintained IP control would people still subscribe..mmm difficult to say.
The mudslinging I don't care for. Frost is trying to paint Nick as a heel, rather than a shrewd opportunist. Frost would be better served sticking to the financial issues.
That said, as previously mentioned, I never dug SWG. Lately I only watch Cold Take and to a lesser extent Ramblomatic. Yahtzees charm has faded for me. Hes not doing anything wrong. Its a Simpsons thing. I used to get out of bed for his content, but I only bother now when Im curious about a game.
I applaud Frost for sticking to his beliefs on how SWG should be run and will subscribe to whatever he does, but as a corporate shill myself I just don't find this to be as big a scandal as he makes it out to be.
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If nothing else, Nick sounds like a pain in the ass to work with.
If nothing else, Nick sounds like a pain in the ass to work with.
Marty was really the only one at Second Wind that 100% enjoyed HB II. Everybody else either were apathetic, hated it (Yahtzee), or just plain not interested.
That's highly debatable. Yahtzee's has many fuck ups or where is turds hit the mark on things that don't make sense. His Mad World, Smash Bros. videos, and Dead Space (I know he apologized in his remake review, but he then complains about the 0 gravity sections being too easy. You can't have it both ways) being big highlights. He jates on Mad World for being "too easy and full of bad wii motion gimmicks (they're not, and the game he barely focused on his reviews)", yet cries about Streets of Rage 4 being "too hard" when boasted playing and beating hard brawlers such as Viewtiful Joe, God Hand, and Devil May Cry. All three of them much harder than SOR4, though the latter is no pushover. That is not even getting into his reviews from the mid to late 2010s of mixed quality. His rant on yellow paint being the complain about modern gaming trend, that is not that big of a problem.
Here comes the Streisand and Domino effect.
FTR, he had almost the exact same problems as Marty. The only difference is Yahtz calls Raganrok another "sad dad game", even though the game has plenty comedic or light moments that are never forced. Even Kratos gets in on the joke more than a few times depending on the mission, side quest, or character he has with him.
I'm guessing this is "hey that fallout mobile thing we did awhile back made as much money as 4 did, so maybe..."
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You aren't wrong, but I think that largely a lot of business owners are very willing to act in unethical (and often illegal ways) so long as it benefits them and they don't get caught. There's a reason that governments need regulation and oversight of businesses because businesses are fundamentally rewarded more for acting in more unethical ways
Yes, Nick did what I think the vast majority of business owners would do in his position, but I don't think that's something that should excuse his actions, or something that should be praised. There's a reason that we have an expectation that sponsored and paid reviews should be disclosed, because I think we all agree that a lack of disclosure would be unethical on the part of the reviewer.
If someone is specifically trading on the perception that they are running their business in an ethical way while simultaneously doing unethical things in order to keep their business afloat that's not a good look.
Looks like it was about as much of a second wind as I get when jogging.
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