"Get back to your own countries!" Says illiterate woman on tram O_o

[Nergy]

Obviously most folks don't condone saying those things.

But, it's illegal to say racist things in England? Shit, if that was illegal here, half the population (from EVERY race) would be locked up in America. Ya'll need to learn the actual meaning of rule of law.

She was being aggressive to members of the public. I think our grasp of law is pretty firm.

 

[Lord Kloo]

Have to say I agree with Volf99 on this one with the whole offended business..

On another point society needs to grow some balls and just accept that people don't like each other and we shouldn't try to wrap people in rubber unless of course someone actually intends to do violent or stupid shizzle..

And another thing.. this isn't exactly big news.. the men in pubs have been (well some of them and people outside pubs, pubs are awesome by the way) saying this for years and its a general (bordering on extreme) right-wing english attitude..

Personally, I don't think anyone can actually take offense to things, I mean why are you logivally going to take offense to being called your relevant nationality or skin colour and that all your kind are violent thugs.. if you know it not to be true then just don't listen..

TLR Sticks and stones, that rhyme sums up my entire view on the matter.. and as we put laws in place to stop sticks and stones we shouldn't need to ban words as well, they shouldn't harm you, in most cases I know that some people are more anxious than others blah blah..

 

[Dogstile]

She doesn't have an interesting opinion. She has a rampantly racist opinion and thinks that countless people who have put more into my country than she ever will should leave based on their skin colour. End of.

Edit: And before they crawl out the woodwork, no, she is not protected by freedom of speech. She deserved to be arrested and the police have every justification to punish her.

hmm... your right, we should punish people who express an unpopular opinion! I mean why let people have the freedom to express themselves?! Outrageous! *sarcasm*

Get serious man, are you really supporting someone being CRIMINALLY charged because they expressed an opinion? Really? I mean really? lol, you know who else punishes people when they express an unpopular opinion? The CCP when people say things that are deemed "criminal" to say.

Don't be ridiculous. We should punish people who break the law to abuse others for absolutely no reason. It isn't that it's unpopular, she's actually infringing on other peoples' rights.

 

 

You keep being legends, lads.

Other peoples rights? What right? The right to not be offended? lmao, video explains it all:

Oh dear. That's absolutely different to what that video actually means and it pains me to see it used in the wrong context.

There is a difference between being offended and having someone intentionally harass you because of your skin colour or where you were born, etc. That goes beyond being offensive. If she had just said what she said and a guy happened to overhear her, well tough shit, people have different opinions, they can be offended, however its not illegal to be a racist.

It is however, illegal to get on a train full of said people and then loudly said what she said, while intending for them to hear (which she clearly was) then its illegal. Because it is illegal to incite hatred, which is what she was doing.

So yeah, bad poster, bad, don't do that again

/poor attempt to end this post on a joke, although i don't think you'll get my humour

 

[lRookiel]

However much I dislike Mass immigration, Hatred based on skin colour/religion is not the way to deal with it, Stupid cunts like her give us English people a bad reputation for being intolerant....

 

[pulse2]

Obviously most folks don't condone saying those things.

But, it's illegal to say racist things in England? Shit, if that was illegal here, half the population (from EVERY race) would be locked up in America. Ya'll need to learn the actual meaning of rule of law.

Its not illegal to say racist things, don't know where you got that, its illegal to aggravate / harass others in a public domain, ESPECIALLY if it is racial abuse.

And rightfully so, Britain has become one of the most multicultural countries in the world, and in some ways we are far more accepting of other races and cultures than even America, the superpower of the world. When Kelis came over and said we were all backwards and England was more racist than USA, she got hit back by all races alike, even blacks, to keep her mouth shut because she knows nothing as she hasn't lived here.

I would rather live here to be honest then quite a few places in the world because here is one of the few places in the world where having Indian, Polish, Russian, Black, Chinese, Japanese, etc etc etc friends isn't seen as weird.

 

[FamoFunk]

I've just been discussing this video.

She's a disgrace to the UK, herself and to her poor Son. She's nothing but a racist thug, who pretty much used her Son as a shield so no one could wallop her one for the shit spewing out of her mouth.

That poor Boy seems so un-fazed by it all, like he's used to his Mother being like this (I have a 2.5yo Daughter, he looks a little younger, believe me, toddlers react to stuff like this normally) it also cruel he's being forced to grow up thinking like this :/

She had no interesting opinion, just thought She'd be racist to poor innocent people who just wanted to use public transport, no one should be verbally abused like this.

 

[Helmholtz Watson]

She doesn't have an interesting opinion. She has a rampantly racist opinion and thinks that countless people who have put more into my country than she ever will should leave based on their skin colour. End of.

Edit: And before they crawl out the woodwork, no, she is not protected by freedom of speech. She deserved to be arrested and the police have every justification to punish her.

hmm... your right, we should punish people who express an unpopular opinion! I mean why let people have the freedom to express themselves?! Outrageous! *sarcasm*

Get serious man, are you really supporting someone being CRIMINALLY charged because they expressed an opinion? Really? I mean really? lol, you know who else punishes people when they express an unpopular opinion? The CCP when people say things that are deemed "criminal" to say.

She is not protected by freedom of speech, she's being abusive to members of the public and inciting racial hatred, i don't know how either of those are opinion.

I'll admit that I don't know UK law, so I can only speak from an American perspective. That said, if it was in America, she could not be arrested for saying something racist.

This has already been explained to you, she was not just "saying something racist". She was being aggressive and inciting racial hatred. You can disagree with how UK law deals with people like this, but you can't watch that video and say "she's just expressing an opinion".

It's stop being opinion when you direct it at someone's face like she does.

Your right, I guess I just disagree with UK law. I apologize for my ignorance on the UK law.

As for what she said, I stand by it. It's an opinion, just like how when I walk in Chicago, and hear old homeless men yelling at me that I'm a sinner going to hell, is an opinion. Until that homeless man "acts" on an opinion, it's just that, an opinion. The same goes for the women, until she "acts" on it, she can be racist against me all she wants.

 

[The Unworthy Gentleman]

My favourite part was where the enraged black man stood up in anger and then quietly sat back down. I don't think I could handle such a loud and irritating woman on the tram like they did, I wouldn't be able to contain my rage at the fact that she was kicking up a stir when she had no right to.

I don't feel sorry for the people on the tram, they could have put up more resistance, most of them left her to her own devices until she started to annoy them personally. The person videoing it didn't say anything, the girl in the corner looked down and the most compassionate thing in the entire video was a hug for the enraged black man. The only white person who got involved did so because her baby was being woken up by her.

Guys, that's not on.

 

[Luke3184]

Question, how do you know from the video that she is illiterate?

Chavs usually are If she was educated in the way I was at least, I'm pretty sure her argument would have far more structure and make more logical sense, using proper reference, possible historical proof. The only thing that made any sense was go back to your fucking countries, you fucking nicafriga, whatever or whoever that is

I disagree entirely. A College-level education is a far fly from just being literate.

That being said, I've never met a Chav, but I understand it to be a stereotype.

You're angry that she's stereotyping, and then you fire back with a stereotype?

Chav's are a sadly accurate stereotype, having put up with them for most of my teenage life I can testify that the majority of those I've met are foul, ignorant and at points inbred parasites who project their own traits onto anybody who is not white...

Edit: OT - I hope to god that child is taken into protective custody, give the poor tyke a chance.

 

[retyopy]

Ha! English idiots are just as stupid as American idiots! SCORE!

 

[Helmholtz Watson]

She doesn't have an interesting opinion. She has a rampantly racist opinion and thinks that countless people who have put more into my country than she ever will should leave based on their skin colour. End of.

Edit: And before they crawl out the woodwork, no, she is not protected by freedom of speech. She deserved to be arrested and the police have every justification to punish her.

hmm... your right, we should punish people who express an unpopular opinion! I mean why let people have the freedom to express themselves?! Outrageous! *sarcasm*

Get serious man, are you really supporting someone being CRIMINALLY charged because they expressed an opinion? Really? I mean really? lol, you know who else punishes people when they express an unpopular opinion? The CCP when people say things that are deemed "criminal" to say.

Don't be ridiculous. We should punish people who break the law to abuse others for absolutely no reason. It isn't that it's unpopular, she's actually infringing on other peoples' rights.

 

 

You keep being legends, lads.

Other peoples rights? What right? The right to not be offended? lmao, video explains it all:

No.
Nononononnononono.
As much as I love Steve Hughes and that video in particular....no.

You seem to think that people are just over-reacting to being offended while in fact woman was hurling racial abuse at the people around her. Would you say that the reaction to the KKK should be "You're offended! I don't care!"? Now don't get me wrong, I was surprised to learn that she had been arrested but I can certainly see the logic behind it.

I only included the video because it expresses how I feel about people having the "right" to not have to hear racism and arrest anybody that expresses such opinions. However, I don't agree with the women at all, but I think that she has the right(idealistically) to say what she wants, as long as its not "fire in a movie theater". However it has been brought to my attention that in England there is a different interpretation of what rights people have to express themselves.

yeah see here in england we are more bothered by the many rather than the one
its also why we have a working health service.

And i entirely agree with our system, the protection of the many over the rights of the one.

Well in America, the rights of the individual are stressed.

Health care has nothing to do with what I'm discussing.

 

[N3vans]

There is, of course, an easy way to deal with people like this, FUS RO DAH!

OT: Waste of DNA if ever there was one, nothing to be taken seriously as I'm sure some lovely chaps from the internet will likely be releasing every facet of her life to the general public very soon.

 

[D-Ray]

@ all the people saying "Sticks and Stones...."

I understand that they are just words, but what I saw in the video is people getting angry at what she said and how she said it. You can't expect everyone to just ignore her YELLING and not get angry at all, It's typical of a human being......unless you are some kind of robot.

 

[Jandau]

Not only does this still exist, it's actually been on the rise lately in many european countries. The fact that the recession is dragging on for so long and with no end in sight, people are becoming more and more on edge and one of the first things that happens is that they start to look for scapegoats, which in turn means anyone who is different from them.

In Germany the neo-nazi movement is getting bigger. In many countries extreme nationalist groups are gaining popularity in response to the economic crisis that's affecting the population. This is nothing new, just a pattern of behaviour that occurs when a large group of people is threatened. It's wrong and sad, but it's inevitable, at least for now.

 

[Helmholtz Watson]

She doesn't have an interesting opinion. She has a rampantly racist opinion and thinks that countless people who have put more into my country than she ever will should leave based on their skin colour. End of.

Edit: And before they crawl out the woodwork, no, she is not protected by freedom of speech. She deserved to be arrested and the police have every justification to punish her.

hmm... your right, we should punish people who express an unpopular opinion! I mean why let people have the freedom to express themselves?! Outrageous! *sarcasm*

Get serious man, are you really supporting someone being CRIMINALLY charged because they expressed an opinion? Really? I mean really? lol, you know who else punishes people when they express an unpopular opinion? The CCP when people say things that are deemed "criminal" to say.

Don't be ridiculous. We should punish people who break the law to abuse others for absolutely no reason. It isn't that it's unpopular, she's actually infringing on other peoples' rights.

 

 

You keep being legends, lads.

Other peoples rights? What right? The right to not be offended? lmao, video explains it all:

Oh dear. That's absolutely different to what that video actually means and it pains me to see it used in the wrong context.

There is a difference between being offended and having someone intentionally harass you because of your skin colour or where you were born, etc. That goes beyond being offensive. If she had just said what she said and a guy happened to overhear her, well tough shit, people have different opinions, they can be offended, however its not illegal to be a racist.

It is however, illegal to get on a train full of said people and then loudly said what she said, while intending for them to hear (which she clearly was) then its illegal. Because it is illegal to incite hatred, which is what she was doing.

So yeah, bad poster, bad, don't do that again

/poor attempt to end this post on a joke, although i don't think you'll get my humour

This is my fault for not knowing about UK laws, but I admit that I was thinking about this from an US perspective on laws and here in the US people can be racist as long as they don't say "fighting words":

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fighting_words#United_States

 

[scw55]

Auto-tune the news should auto tune this. She's a rapper and isn't even.... human.

Given her logic, a bit of her should go to France, Italy and Scandinavia (Normans, Romans, Saxons).
Stupid. Retarded. English. Racists.

 

[Monkfish Acc.]

Racism is actually a thing that exists???

Stop the fucking presses.

Allow me to reach into my jar of surprised fucks and oh would you look at that some mystery person has broken it all over their face and is bleeding copiously as we speak all over my keyboard.

 

[Casual Shinji]

That kid is a hero; he just saved his mom from being riped apart by an angry mob. Too bad he's going to grow up just like her.

And this is her sober... Can you imagine what she's like drunk?

But, it's illegal to say racist things in England? Shit, if that was illegal here, half the population (from EVERY race) would be locked up in America. Ya'll need to learn the actual meaning of rule of law.

I think she was mainly arrested for going apeshit in a crowded, public place.

If you're on a bus or a subwaytrain and you start throwing a racist tantrum in the midst of dozens of people who can't choose to ignore you or simply walk away, you're going to attract the attention of the authorities who'll likely take you downtown for a good talking to.