Hackers Also Hit Sony Online, Stole 12,700 Credit Cards

[JDKJ]

Bahaha! Everyone here talking like they work for big security firms and know exactly how database security should be handled crack me up! You're all so cute!

How would you know that they don't?

Well I assume someone tech knowledge relevant to network security would be using more sophisticated tech jargon than "Wat? Sony u suck your going to go bankrupt for lossing all our infos!". But other than that I haven seen a single person stating that they do, which would go a bit further to support claims that Sony didn't go a good job than "Sony you should know better!" does. I doubt (and I'm guessing here) not a single person who is accusing Sony of anything knows anything about their security, unless I missed part of a news post with info more than that the credit cards were hashed.

Point well made. The inability to spell simple, four-letter words would tend to suggest that the misspeller isn't employed at anyplace what doesn't involve asking customers if they want an apple pie to go with their order. I concede.

 

[Thorvan]

PSN stands for PlayStation NOTwork.

Work on that one a bit...

Well... thank god the Playstation 3 was above my budget 4 years ago.

Well if it was PSH I could have wrote: Please Stop Hacking

What about;

Playstation Security?
Nah.

 

[JDKJ]

What's even funnier about this whole thing is all the spite and hate that people are aiming at the hackers, instead of the company that's pretty much left themselves wide open to this.

The hackers are the only ones who actually ensure safe networks, without them constantly testing and breaking so called security systems, all of your data would just be sitting there for the taking by any little asshat.

If you honestly aren't going to blame a multibillion dollar company who is MORE than able to pay for any kind of security it wishes and who keeps a private 'secure' network where it is possible to hack it from a goddamned home games console, then quite frankly you all deserve to lose your shit.. because if you are going to be that dumb then you'd eventually lose it anyway.

Nice of you to have let us all know Sony.... Oh wait! You didn't! Also I don't want free service on a system you can't protect.

Did you even read the motherfucking article? They only discovered it this morning. Christ.

Says who? Sony? Riiiiiight.

I don't even know how to respond to that.

Oh, wait, yes I do. [http://youtu.be/FopyRHHlt3M]

The real issue is that it was hacked at the same time as the PSN... and they've only just noticed. That's just a poor show, and I bet the guys who did this have been laughing at them all this time about it...

So? It's obvious that they got a shitload of information to go through. They've got old databases going back to 2007 that they don't even use anymore that they've gotta search. Searching all that shit in the load to see what's missing ain't done overnight.

One would wonder why they would have databases that are older and not as protected as the newer databases.

If the data wasn't used anymore, then typical data protection laws dictate that the data shouldn't be in possession of the company. If they did still use the data, data protection laws typically state (at least in my knowledge, i'm a little fuzzy on what i'm about to type) that the data you hold should be protected to the best of your ability.

Edit: Meaning that if this database was hacked into but the main one wasn't, then it would paint the picture of them not protecting it the best they could. That may not have been clear.

OT: Either way Sony, I have one reaction to this.

Well done, you have given me much entertainment over the past few days. I'm glad I'm currently toting an Xbox and not playing any MMO's, because this wouldn't be so damn entertaining if it was affecting me.

I wasn't saying that an old database should be any less protected than a current database. I was saying that they, given that they have databases going back to 2007, obviously have a lot of databases that they need to examine thoroughly in order to determine what data has been compromised. That task isn't accomplished in a day. Maybe not a week. Maybe not two weeks. That's what I saying.

 

[Braedan]

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Point well made. The inability to spell simple, four-letter words would tend to suggest that the misspeller isn't employed at anyplace what doesn't involve asking customers if they want an apple pie to go with their order. I concede.

I think we should just wait and see what happens for at least a little bit longer. As I believe you said, T.J.Maxx didn't figure it out for a year and a half. I think Sony's timing is adequate, we just need more information when it's done being investigated.

 

[thiosk]

People only learn from disasters. This is a cyberspace disaster. Hopefully, EVERYONE stands up and takes notice about the security of online information. There are surely companies in worse security shape on this great blue earth.

 

[JDKJ]

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Point well made. The inability to spell simple, four-letter words would tend to suggest that the misspeller isn't employed at anyplace what doesn't involve asking customers if they want an apple pie to go with their order. I concede.

I think we should just wait and see what happens for at least a little bit longer. As I believe you said, T.J.Maxx didn't figure it out for a year and a half. I think Sony's timing is adequate, we just need more information when it's done being investigated.

I'm almost afraid, for Sony's sake, to learn what more's gonna pop up as they investigate. Something tells me that the damage report won't improve with time. But maybe, as their investigation further unfolds, they'll actually catch those jive-ass crackers. That would be good thing.

 

[ZombieGenesis]

It genuinly wouldn't surprise me at this point of Geohot had arranged this with his hacker followers in order to bring down sony completely.
After all these break ins, security hacks, lost personal data and now even credit card information... well, I'd be surprised if Sony stays in business. Unless they have really, REALLY good lawyers.

Sony? Good Lawyers? Non-sense they only sue underage basement modders ... right?

Seriously though Sony is in some trouble.

And dont blame Geohot for this, The Anonymous splinter may be out for vengeance cuz of their actions on him but he didnt organize or ask for this. Hate it when people started saying it was because of his code the network got hacked. Nothing short of angry supposition. Almost seemed racist in a sense to lump modders and hackers together.

Well I did only say it wouldn't surprise me, I never actually attested that I suspected him of anything.
Frankly I don't think Anonymous had anything to do with this either. Too high scale.

I think we're talking about a third party.

 

[Xanthious]

No worries, I'm sure they can send out those three SOJ execs from yesterday to bow again then everything will be forgiven. I mean hell, a japanese person bowing is a magic fix all if you were to read the forums yesterday.

 

[JDKJ]

PSN stands for PlayStation NOTwork.

Work on that one a bit...

Well... thank god the Playstation 3 was above my budget 4 years ago.

Well if it was PSH I could have wrote: Please Stop Hacking

What about;

Playstation Security?
Nah.

How's...
Prepared? Soooo NOT!

Positively Sucks Nuts, if you're asking me.

 

[SteewpidZombie]

Whoever is hitting SONY and it's branches is obviously someone who is specifically targeting SONY. Considering the fact that ANY major company such as SONY has some pretty decent encryption on their stuff to prevent hackers from stealing such amounts of credit card info, the people doing these hacks are obviously capable of hitting any other company or service next.

Though the nature of these attacks is making me wonder if Microsoft or a competing company is the one behind the attacks, that or some GeoHotz fanboy type people who decided to attack SONY for taking a Hacker to court. Either way, at this point it'd be safe to assume that WHOEVER gets caught will be serving YEARS in prison for the amount of information that has been stolen or compromised.

 

[viking97]

Dear hackers

you guys are seriously jerks, you know that?

 

[DaHero]

Guess the hackers all got bored of hacking Call of Duty.

Just got back from playing Black Ops though...still there so maybe this was a hobby.

 

[freakonaleash]

whew, I thought my credit card was up for grabs for a second there.

 

[Ziadaine_v1legacy]

You'd think they'd dis-connect EVERYTHING of their servers from internet access until they can resolve the problem.

I honestly cant wait to see what happens if these hackers are caught, considering they'll be doing alot of time for what they did.

 

[Antari]

Daaaaaamn.

I wonder how many people at Sony are gonna get fired for being completely incompetent.

Unfortunately no where near enough.

 

[Mouse One]

When I signed up for DC Online a couple of months back, my credit card company refused payment until I talked to the security department. Even back then, it was flagged as a security risk (Steam, on the other hand, is not)

 

[cystemic]

because it wasn't enough to attack just one database of the japanese company that was helping to keep its economy stable, why dont we just hack them twice because we're fags with no life. seriously, this is like that anti-piracy ad from the it crowd where the guy kills a policeman, steals his helmet, takes a shit in it and then sends it to the policeman's grieving widow. why would you do that?

 

[Danpascooch]

These hackers are going to be in prison for life if they are ever discovered. No matter how smart they are they can't hide forever.

Are people starting to realize that it is a group of people specifically picking on Sony yet? Or are people going to continue to blame Sony?

SOE and PSN are worlds apart. And I imagine that they have vastly different security.

While Sony is partly to blame for being arrogant and sticking their nose in everyone's business, it's outright wrong to say that this was because Sony's security was crap or something. Any system like PSN and SOE are crackable. And these are no different.

EDIT: Edited word usage for political correctness. Seriously, people know the difference.

of course it's a group that's out to get Sony, but that doesn't mean they should be able to hack into both and get everything. The level of security is inexcusable, and BTW, not everything is crackable.

 

[faefrost]

Wow... you'd think they would have seen this coming... whoever these hackers are, they have a vendetta against Sony.

I wonder if they are going to come to other system as well. Or just thought they could bring sony down a peg or two with their talk of "un-hackable" system. Though who knows with this. Hate to say this Sony fans but I hope they don't come to xbox or PC(Though not sure how they can do this one...but who knows with these people.)

How to do it to PC? Ummm? Hack Blizzard? Hack Amazon.com? Hack iTunes? Or the motherload, Hack Facebook (although not much in CC#'s there).