I didn't even notice it was "9/11" today, I just thought it was a normal day like every year (yes including 2001). As a New Zealander I really don't care. As others have already said it's too hyped up and to be honest a little bit whiny.
Not to sound like a douche but those are my views as well. I understand why you think its a big deal but for us it was a tragic event that people need to move on from.Cheshire the Cat said:NZ. Not cared about in the slightest. In fact[footnote]Though to be fair this is just from people I have spoken to about it.[/footnote] people find it distasteful that americans still go on and on about it like it was such a big thing. And the whole "They attacked us!" is disgusting.
Simple fact is this, unless you actually lost a family member in the attack then you really need to stfu about it and stop acting as if it had anything to do with you.
Oh and internationally its viewed 11/9. <.<
Simple fact, if your god damn country had the same thing happen *lets say instead of America, it was your country* don't you think you would remember the day.Cheshire the Cat said:NZ. Not cared about in the slightest. In fact[footnote]Though to be fair this is just from people I have spoken to about it.[/footnote] people find it distasteful that americans still go on and on about it like it was such a big thing. And the whole "They attacked us!" is disgusting.
Simple fact is this, unless you actually lost a family member in the attack then you really need to stfu about it and stop acting as if it had anything to do with you.
Oh and internationally its viewed 11/9. <.<
Theres a difference between thousands of people dying, all in different ways, at random, then there is a person plotting the death of thousands, the fall of a symbol to the people, and using planes, full of legal citizens, being rammed into the symbol and at a very political, important place, starting a war, LOSING many because of that war, then the original start being un-warned.SonicKaos said:Most people here (Canada) say they remember what they were doing when they heard the news, so I guess people still care about it. I personally have no clue what I was doing at the time, because it wasn't a big deal to me at the time. I mean, I do feel bad for everyone who lost their lives/loved ones, absolutely... but it was 10 years ago, and thousands of people die every day for similar reasons (though smaller incidents).
If someone you knew died personally, then you have every right to make a big deal out of it each year. If not, then by now I think it should be put into the back of our minds. Pay your respects as you will of course, but there is no need to make a huge deal about it on the news and whatnot anymore.
9/11 matters because it was unexpected in that country, but worse things happen every day elsewhere that no one cares about. Not saying it's right, but it's true.
I take you back to my first post.tthor said:One thing I'd like to note, a lot of people seem to be saying that 'ya, people died, move on.' but I think thats missing the point. What made 9-11 such a big deal was not simply that people died, but the fact that an attack was made on a modern first-world country, resulting in thousands of deaths. It was a big reminder for many people that war and major attacks like this can happen at home, and not just in some distant 3rd-world country or something.
There has been a load of provocation though. The whole get out of the middle east thing for start which is the reason why they did it and by that I mean the way that America has funded and supported proxy wars against Russia with the Middle East being their back drop I.E. Israel.Aprilgold said:snip
Thank you, changing.hawkeye52 said:There has been a load of provocation though. The whole get out of the middle east thing for start which is the reason why they did it and by that I mean the way that America has funded and supported proxy wars against Russia with the Middle East being their back drop I.E. Israel.Aprilgold said:snip
Not only did Britain break its land lease agreement by giving the British bases to the Jewish people instead of the Palistinians under American pressure and its anti-colonialist habits. The Middle east then declared war on Israel which was right IMO since it was their land to begin with Israel was supported by the West and defended itself which again was also right since they hadn't really provoked the attack its just that they had their country set up in the wrong place. However what they did after was pure stupidity and proceeded to take and hold land and force unfair peace treaties with America's help and this continued on happening right until Palastine is now reduced to West Bank and Gaza Strip which are now the two most poor over populated areas of land on earth and are kept under regular sanctions for aid and relief by the Israelis.
Also the only war that Israel got into that America didn't originally know of was the Suez canal war and when America found out about it they did not approve and ordered an immediate withdrawal sort of showing that Israel was more of being used as a tool to place pressure on the Russians and Middle East then actually wanting to give them their own land which they could have done perfectly fine in the US or elsewhere since we have enough land its just that we wanted to put them in the most politically volatile area on earth for some reason.