Human Centipede II Refused U.K. Classification

Sylvine

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It's a tricky business but their point is basically that there's no real purpose to this film aside from sexual gratification.

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2011/06/06/bbfc-refuses-human-centipede-2-a-uk-release-certificate/

It's a little tricky to explain the difference between this film and your examples so try reading their original statement. I rather like the BBFC, they're normally very reasonable and it's not like they ban it from DVD sale.
I read it, and I share the scepticism of Brendon Connelly there. Obviously, I'm in a bad position to argue it - I haven't seen the film. But I have to wonder how they can make a claim like this: "It is the Board?s conclusion that the explicit presentation of the central character?s obsessive sexually violent fantasies is in breach of its Classification Guidelines and poses a real, as opposed to a fanciful, risk that harm is likely to be caused to potential viewers.", emphasis mine. Okay, so explicit presentation of obsessive, sexually violent fantasies is a breach of their guidelines. I can't argue with that - I can, though, question their guidelines, then.

And I also have to question how a film can pose a "real, as opposed to a fanciful" threat to the viewer. "Irreversible", for example, sounds way worse, and was not refused classification. I remember reading about people fleeing the theatre during the cruciual scene, too appaled to watch. And that's an artsy drama. It's far easier to walk into such a thing unprepared. I don't think it's as easy to walk into a horror flick designed to be explicit and revolting and marketed accordingly. I'd say any harm a film like that might cause can be easily called self-inflicted.

Don't get me wrong. Appaling as it was, I consider "Irreversible" to have more merit as a film per se than HC2 can ever hope to have, even without having viewed one scene. And although the Meta, so to speak, around HC2 appears to have been purposefully aimed at, it might have been sheer coincidence that it plays out so nicely. In fact, refused classification for cinemas, but a pass for DVD can be a godsend to the makers, since merchandise and dvds are way more lucrative than cinema releases as a rule of thumb.

I just don't see the justification. There's nothing there except for "We were disgusted, and we don't think people should go see a movie like that in the cinema.", or at least I really don't see any difference.

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The first film seemed like "Let's come up with a premise that would shock and disturb viewers".
This film seems like "OH GOD HOW MUCH MORE CAN WE SHOCK AND DISTURB VIEWER WE MUST AT ALL COSTS DISGUST THEM GO GO GO"
 

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Not having seen it, I can't really say this but my thought is that it's intentionally just going for shock value now, and that doesn't make a movie.

I'm sorry but everyone involved with this, I'm going to have to ask you to get your things together and get out of the gene pool.
 

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I don't agree with censorship or media bans, so that's my take on that decision.

However, I watched the first Human Centipede, and I have to say.. the only thing I saw was sadomasochism, torture porn, and a coprophile's wet dream. It was pretty disgusting, and fairly obvious from where I was sitting.

The 'doctor' wore Nazi-esque uniform bits, and used a leather strap to whip them while he 'ordered' the women to eat shit. This is a softcore-remake of some dingy VHS tape pulled from a shit-porn lover's dirty basement, folks.

That is.. all. It wasn't really a "movie".
 

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Apparently, rule 34 is so powerful that its application extends to real life.

Still, I'm against the censorship deal. If you can't stomach it, don't watch it. There are plenty of sick, demented - I mean, respectable, sane people who would enjoy this film.
 

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I kinda' want to meet the writer(s) and director of centi2 and kick them in the dick.

WTF were they thinking.
 

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JackSparrowSucks said:
I still don't like censorship, no matter how win-filled it is.
It could have been, very easily, a critique of Labourite policies.
I think there should be exceptions when 99.999% of the populace agrees with the censoring.
 

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We will show it in theatures and anyone who buys a ticket to it opening day is to be shot on the spot.

I honestly do not think this movie should come out. It would be an abomination and the director should be locked up in a white spongy room. That movie just sounds sickening. Espesually when I looked up the wiki to see if this was true.
The plot of Full Sequence involves a centipede made from twelve people, will feature a largely British cast, and will have the tag-line "100% medically inaccurate". Six has stated that with the first film having desensitized audiences to the idea of a human centipede, the sequel will be much more graphic and disturbing, First Sequence being "My Little Pony compared with part two." In an interview, Ashlynn Yennie stated that the sequel will contain "the blood and shit" which viewers did not see in the first film.
Serously??? TWELVE PEOPLE!?... Humanity has failed us.

I am kinda regretting living in Canada. Very few things are censored here.
 

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Granted it sounds less tasteful and worse than the original but THAT IS WHAT I WANT DAMMIT!, This will surely work in the favor of everyone involved in the film let me explain:


(Publicity )------(Controversy)<-----(Censorship)


(If you don't get it picture Censorship as the Asian man in Human Centipede, Controversy as the girl in the middle and Publicity as the one on the end)

ALSO:

Grufflenark said:
Reaper195 said:
spectrenihlus said:
I think the travesty here is that this film got a sequel.
I think it was a travesty that there was a first film....
What about the fact someone actually made this story?
Have you people even seen the film? Despite the grotesque subject matter it's suprisingly tame and isn't some fuzzy student production.
 

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Ach. That's...messed up. I think...I think I almost support the UK on this. Better keep it out of mainstreams cinemas, lest any poor soul go to see it without knowing what it really is. There should still be a way for people who want to watch it to watch it, though. Have it in specialized venues, release the DVD sooner, I don't know. There's always ways. I, for one, however, will be avoiding it like the plague. It doesn't even have a "artistic metaphor!" argument to hide behind, like A Serbian Film.
 

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I've never heard of that movie before, but after hearing Human Centipede, this was the first thing that sprung up to mind.


It's made of human parts and a certain radioactive chemical, not 3 persons stitched together, mouth to ass.

So, yeah, that movie sound pretty fucked up, glad it got banned.
 

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I actually have no problems with the government refusing a rating to this. you wouldn't expect the latest snuff film/porno advertising 3 cumshots and 2 decapitated corpses to get a theatrical release. this crosses the line to make it obscene, so if they don't want theaters showing it, that is fine, I won't expect them to be screening playboy either, and if you want to get a hold of it, there will be ways. I see this less as infringing on personal freedoms, and more like keeping a terrible movie from getting to much exposure or making its money back.
 

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This movie is so horribly wrong...

Yet, I can't resist my curiosity to go see it, just to know what the fuss is about.

Still, there is no way in hell that I'm gonna be caught in the movie theater seeing this even if I would get a free ticket for it. I mean, people might think I have gone crazy. Oh wait...
 

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SaneAmongInsane said:
so hows it any different from the SAW franchise?
I know Saw is the go-to whipping boy in discussions of "torture porn" (I really hate the perversion of that term) but it's really a poor example. Firstly, there's no appeal to the prurient: Jigsaw gets no pleasure from the traps he springs on his victims, nor is the audience intended to. Moreover, the series has built up a complex and involved mythos that extends beyond the torture scenes and includes a villain that's a fully fleshed out (and occasionally sympathetic) character. The Saw series is really a cautionary tale about the dangers of forcibly imposing one's morals on others. In fact, the story arcs in Saw 1-3 and Saw 4-6 uncannily mirror the story arcs of The Godfather 1 and 2, respectively.

They're not indelible works of cinematic genius but there's a lot more going on in the Saw films than its detractors would like to acknowledge. Anybody who'd lump Saw in with the Human Centipede, which truly is exploitation simply for the sake of it, clearly doesn't know what he or she is talking about.
 

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I'd curiously like to know how many people in this thread actually saw the original before jumping on the centipede wagon and deciding purely based on the concept that it's "Sick Filth". I certainly find it hypocritical that these people will campaign for the rights of what they find entertaining but not for the rights of things they either don't or don't know if they enjoy
 

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Well..good... is all I can say, a second coming of this weirdness does not need to exist.

Go Go UK Film board, finally not doing something that makes me groan.

This isn't unnecessary censorship, if you wanna see it that bad buy the DVD, it's simple.