VeneratedWulfen93 said:
Chicago Ted said:
VeneratedWulfen93 said:
I could give zero fucks. I was crazy into girls when I was 14 but then I just realised "Whats the point? Why am I chasing after these shallow creatures?"
So I'll probably stay a virgin for at least another year (I have a bet with friends that I can turn 20 and still have it. The pots up to £30 now) but even then I'll be not chasing after it. Call me sad but I prefer my games, my 40k miniatures and a good laugh with mates to female company. Sure I can talk to them but if I'm not drunk then I just give them cold indifferance most of the time.
People can point how how sad or how I'm missing out all they want but my life is mine. I don't want to share it with anyone.
I will not call you sad for preferring to play games and hang out with friends. No, I instead see you as that for harbouring such warped misogynistic view point.
To refer to females as "shallow creatures" is perhaps one of the most disgusting things I've seen when reading over most of this thread. Just because they are of another gender, does not make them inherently bad. I'm going to lay on one earth shattering thought for you now in the idea that "Women are people too". There are a good number of them that do not want to pursue you, or to have you pursue them, and who are instead more interested in hanging out, shooting the shit, or just being friends. Just because they're female, doesn't mean they don't enjoy a good game, or just sitting back and enjoying wasting the time away with good company. While all might not share the same interests as you, I can say that there are going to be just as many men who probably don't as well. To have such an aggressive stance against their general existence like that, is something that would make me as a person not want to associate with you. I feel like I have to drum out the most basic lessons taught to you in pre-school here that ?Everyone is a person?.
Seriously, you?re the one referring to them as shallow creatures, yet you sit there from your pedestal judging all as being not worth your time, and not even giving the decency of being polite to them. Do you not see the hypocrisy you create? I do hope you remain a virgin for as long as you keep these views, not out of spite for you, but because I have far more pity for the girl who would wake up beside you, and sees your true colours.
As for an OT view, I do not shame other males for their virginity,
UNLESS they speak of sex frequently, but never seem to pursue it themselves. To give context, in one of my social circles, we have one friend, who frequently talks about getting a girl, screwing, and other things similar, but when the time comes he never steps up. When he makes comments or questions on my sex life not being as active as some others (I?ll step aside to highlight that this is of choice, out of that group, I am the one with the lowest sex drive), I?ll follow up by ragging on him for still being a virgin. That I feel though is more due to the fact that he?s the one opening up the box, and trying to tease about it in the first place, so he opens himself up for it.
I know full well they are people however, in my experience, I havn't had a worthwhile conversation with a woman ever. During my early teens I had alot of conversations but they were just bullshit and meaningless.
I guess I just don't get on with girls that well. Theres like 3 girls in my college class who i'll occasionally so hello to and I work with a girl who won't shut her mouth about her science course. They never talk about anything interesting ever.
To be honest I came very close once but I couldn't go through with it because it was my friends sister.
Anyway, I don't walk around the place giving every woman a horrible look or swerving to avoid them in the street. Cold indifferance. I'll answer if they talk to me but not say anything beyond that. I don't often openly rage about them, I mostly just...ignore them.
For the record, you need to talk to more women. Not to date them or whatever, but just to know the other half of your species AT ALL, it would seem.
Women are in all seriousness just as different from each other as men are.
Hell, the differences between men and women, aside from the obvious physical differences, is almost COMPLETELY nonexistent on a fundamental level. If not for stereotypes modifying men and women to behave differently, I'm pretty damn sure we'd both behave the same.
If you can't find an interesting, compelling, friendly, down to earth, woman to talk to or be friends with, that's JUST because you haven't talked to the right ones, the same way that if you went and talked to 90% of guys you wouldn't want to be friends with them either.
For example, my "twin", being the person I know who happens to think and act EXACTLY like me, to the point that I refer to them as "alternate reality me", is Emily, a hot Swedezuelan (half Swedish, half Venezuelan) girl who's a couple years younger than me.
Just behind Emily in being JUST like me, are 3 more women, 1 guy, and my brother.
Until July of last year, I had a pretty damn huge group of friends, and they were mostly guys. I eventually got so fed up with their petty bullshit that I exiled basically all of them from my domain. You know who I kept from that group? One girl, because she was the only reasonable one.
The only person I personally know, who I genuinely admire, completely respect and trust, and whose wisdom I will follow over even my own? A girl a mere 17 days older than me.
As of right now, my collection of real friends consists of 5 guys and 5 girls.
For every dumb girl out there who won't shut her mouth about some stupid crape you don't care about there is a guy who won't shut the hell up about sports or cars, or whatever.
For every vapid, stereotypical, sorority girl/cheerleader out there, there's an equally vapid frat boy/bro.
For every chick that is obsessed with her classes or job, there is a dude equally obsessed with the same.
For every slutty barely dressed chick there is some douchbag guy with a popped collar.
For every intelligent guy there's an intelligent girl.
For every guy geeking out over comics, or video games, or whatever, there is a girl doing the same, or girls who would love to do the same if their society didn't make them feel somehow ashamed for wanting to do so.
That's part of the whole problem between guys and girls not seeing each other as people fully capable of sharing interests - there's still this big nebulous vague societal view that girls are somehow wrong for acting like guys or liking what guys like, even if that's completely natural to them. A lot of girls consciously or subconsciously shy away from stuff like that and just find something else to do.
As a result, it's a lot harder than it should be for men and women to realize that we're pretty much exactly the same, and "gamer girls" (I.e. girls who don't give a crap about stereotypes, and who will simply do whatever they like regardless of what anyone thinks) become like gorram magical unicorns to guys who think that they're a genuine rarity.
I guess I'm real fortunate to have a wider perspective in this stuff, since from 5th grade to 12th grade I had a group of guys and girls who stuck together through anything and everything and pretty much raised each other, in a cultural sense, so we sort of existed beyond any awareness or perception of stigmas. And that has lead those girls from our group to finding more girls of the same sort who THEY were friends with, and as a result I know them too. And it lead all of the guys from that group to approaching other women without the notion that they might not like the same stuff we do, and therefore an awful lot of women open up to us and feel comfortable being themselves around us, and as a result we have a pretty extensive group of men and women we KNOW from personal experience are just like us.
You'll occasionally see me reference the fact that I have several, close, ridiculously attractive, female friends, or that one of my best friends is also the hottest woman I've ever seen in real life.....this is why. They're all girls who we treat with the same assumptions as we treat guys, and they treat us as if we 're just like them. Some of them just happened to grow up to be smokin' hot.
We regularly discuss games, politics, history, books, movies, tv shows, work, school, personal lives, etc etc etc, just the same as I'd talk to another guy friend or as they would talk to another female friend.
When I see people on the Internet flipping out about some "gamer girl" or saying crap like how women are shallow creatures who they can't be bothered to deal with....it makes me sad. It also makes me occasionally wonder if maybe Houston is just some sort of bizarre secret paradise where all the good ladies occur, but then I cruise around the Internet some more and see that CLEARLY they're not all here, and my friends will travel around the country and almost effortlessly find women just like the ones we know, so it HAS TO be a matter of how you approach them. It's the only explanation that makes any sense.
Talk to women with a negative preconception of them, and they probably won't bother to waste the time dispelling your delusions.
Talk to women with a mind set towards treating them as you would want to be treated, and a lot of them may very well respond in kind, and suddenly you'll find women you can relate to and be friends with.
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You know, this all REALLY just boils down to that ancient Golden Rule of treating people the way you want to be treated.
It's not rocket science, even though an awful lot of people seem to have it in their heads that it somehow IS.
