You can't be serious. New-vegas was a shitty DLC compared to the amazing game that was Fallout 3. How do people keep saying New-Vegas was better? All they did was make a duplicate of 3, and add a few locations / enemies. Bethesda could have done that, and made it better than what Obsidian did (glitchy, broken, boring piece of shit) and released it as a DLC, and still made more money / made a better game out of it.The_Blue_Rider said:No, however I would say, let Obsidian develop Fallout from now on, and Bethesda can focus on the Elder Scrolls completely![]()
Its win - win since we get the best possible Elder Scrolls experience, and the best possible Fallout experience
Not known for it's story? You are kidding right? They've been VASTLY immersive with the story since Morrowind, and they keep getting better. There is no reason Obsidian should touch Elder Scrolls, nor is it forgivable that they put that shit-stain that was New-Vegas across Bethesda's good name.The Madman said:Elder Scrolls isn't a series known for its story. It's a series renown for it's open-endedness and freedom of choice, that and it's durpy AI and ability to break the game with ease. Still it's a fun series that does what it does really well, I might not always enjoy it (Loved Morrowind, disliked Oblivion, haven't played Skyrim) but I can always respect it.
Obsidian would do their usual thing with added dialogue and story, they'd try to create a more compelling narrative experience which sounds great on paper, but it's not why people play the Elder Scrolls series. Meanwhile what Obsidian doesn't do well is tight gameplay or polish, though to be fair Dungeon Siege 3 is pretty bug-free.
Regardless just a silly match-up. Worked for Fallout because Obsidian has ties to the original games, no such connection exists like that for the Elder Scrolls series.
Personally I think Obsidian should do like Double Fine did and put their effort, at least for a time, into creating smaller projects. Downloadable titles, fun niche projects and the like. I'd love to see what a studio as creative as they are would come up with.
Haha, I was going to say New Morrowind but I decided on New Daggerfall instead for some reason.GeneWard said:THE ELDER SCROLLS:
NEW MORROWIND!
I...I...don't understand. You say you want them to remake Daggerfall, but then you say you want a bug free game. So which is it?Octogunspunk said:The Elder Scrolls: New Daggerfall... imagine the possibilities...
Maybe Obsidian should be given a chance to remake Daggerfall, and that's that. If it goes really well and relatively bug-free, I say let them make their own original TES game. If they screw it up, then no hard feelings but they just aren't suited to the elder scrolls.
Ahh Daggerfall, the last Elder Scrolls game I enjoyed. Everything else since has been claustrophobic in comparison.Octogunspunk said:The Elder Scrolls: New Daggerfall... imagine the possibilities...
Maybe Obsidian should be given a chance to remake Daggerfall, and that's that. If it goes really well and relatively bug-free, I say let them make their own original TES game. If they screw it up, then no hard feelings but they just aren't suited to the elder scrolls.
Blame Lucasarts,not Obsidian.Lucasarts forced Obsidian to release KotOR II in time for the holidays.The game had a 13-month development cycle,yet it was so much better than KotOR I ever was,with the proper balancing mods,and after you restore the cut content Lucasarts derped the team into leaving out.I have no idea what 'machine freezing bug' you speak of,but Obsidian has some wonderful ideas,and deserve more attention.That said,if Obsidian does an Elder Scrolls game,it should be a spinoff game.I want the Elder Scrolls proper to stay distinctly Bethesdan.M4t3us said:Hmmmm, Bethesda, as in Awesome games with a ton of midly annoying bugs...
Obsidian, screwing up sequels since KOTOR2 with a metric **ckton of machine freezing bugs...
No!
Seriously? I played Morrowind plenty, I know the story. It was alright I thought, but the means by which it was told I found poor, the dialogue was stilted, and frankly I just didn't think it was that good to begin with. Still it was serviceable and I liked reading the books throughout the game and reading up on the lore. The best stories in Morrowind however were the ones you created yourself. Oblivion meanwhile... hell I can't even remember the plot. Something about Captn Picards son trying to save the world from demons? I don't know, it was entirely forgettable and boring in my mind. I never completed the main quest, never felt the need.Mick Myers said:Not known for it's story? You are kidding right? They've been VASTLY immersive with the story since Morrowind, and they keep getting better. There is no reason Obsidian should touch Elder Scrolls, nor is it forgivable that they put that shit-stain that was New-Vegas across Bethesda's good name.
No.Ovoon said:I love Bethesda. The problems that plague their games fly right past me, and I enjoy everything that they... develop.
However, I want more elder scrolls. There are so many more regions to see, and in my opinion, the engine setup for Skyrim is good enough for me. So I want to see them pump out more Elder Scrolls games! I don't really care for Obsidian, but I really did enjoy Fallout New Vegas, in some ways more than Fallout 3. But if they announce that Bethesda and Obsidian will do annual Elder Scrolls games every two years, I'll be a happy camper. That way I think we will see all of those regions that we have been dying to explore for years! And we wont have to wait 5 years every region.
Funny you mention that, if you'd go back to the codex (or wherever you crawled out of where using phrases like "12 year old Beth fangirls" isn't considered laughably childish) everyone would probably appreciate it. Might be worth looking into.bussinroundz said:From everything i've been reading on some true rpg sites, (not one's like this filled with 12 year old Beth fangirls), is that Skyrim is better than Oblivious, but not as good as Morrowind.
I am offended sir! -slaps you with a glove- I dont think its fair to put that judgement only towards console users, games like modern warfare have a massive following on the pc aswell and the madden games never sell that amazingly well, I have never bought a modern warfare game in my life and the only fps games i have are bioshock 1 & 2Mick Myers said:Gonna have to agree here, (Duke Nukem Forever aside). This poor idea of "More games = better" has become rampant and ridiculous. Honestly, I think the console idiots & CoD / Madden are to blame (bigger number every 6 months to a year and 'OMG ITS THE BEST THING EVER *Retarded console user slobber*). And where did you (Aimed at ovoon here) get "every 2 years" from? It's been, what, 4 years since Oblivion? 5? The reason Skyrim is such great quality is because they took their time on it and gave the community what they wanted by occasionally making Oblivion better by adding good quality DLC (minus the ripoff horse armor) while they perfected (minus occasional bug/glitch which is to be expected) Skyrim. Pump out more games quicker and you will lose fan-base not only because the games not be as in-depth or great quality, but no-one will have enough time to truly enjoy them because your pumping out more half-assed games every few years.
This. Obsidian is a travesty of a developer. If they aren't ruining sequels (New Vegas, KOTOR 2). New Vegas was fun when it worked, which was mostly just at the beginning.Culinus said:The problem I have with Obsidian is that they're games are usually full of bugs. They seriously need to bring up their quality control to a reasonable standard. But as far as their actual game design and story writing goes it's quite good.