is lollipop chainsaw bastardizing our industry?

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getoffmycloud

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omega 616 said:
Say what you want but this game is just shameless pandering, come on ... there is an achievement for looking up her skirt ...

I am surprised Suda 51 didn't join up ninja theory, to make it as close to a generic pandering game as possible, slutty, barely dressed blonde chick, with blue eyes, killing zombies with a chainsaw ....

I think all of the people "defending" this with "don't take it so seriously" are the ones getting it to perv.

Nothing wrong with wanting to perv but the internet is full of naked people, people with actual flesh not a good polygon count.

I think it's weird this game got so much hype and buzz for such generic crap ...
If this is generic crap give me 10 other games where you can be a cheerleader killing zombies with a chainsaw while rainbows and all sorts of crazy shit happens on screen with some original bosses?
 

Hazy992

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Have A Serbian Film or The Human Centipede tarnished the entire film industry? Of course they haven't and it's the same thing here. The only people it's tarnished the games industry for are people like the idiots at Fox News who already think all video games are the work of Satan himself and just look for any old excuse to label it as such. People with half a brain realise Lollipop Chainsaw is not indicative of the entire industry.

Also Suda 51 game is Suda 51 game. What the hell were you expecting?
 

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SnakeoilSage said:
*Snerk* It's common yeah, but let's not beat around the (possibly non-existent) bush here: she's in high school, and unless she was held back a few grades, you should feel BAD for not blinking during those 3,000 or so up-skirt shots.
wintercoat said:
Why should I feel bad? It's illegal to fuck a 16/17 year old, not admire their *ahem* assets. We aren't talking about a child after all.
She's 18 [http://www.destructoid.com/review-lollipop-chainsaw-229321.phtml] so I wouldn't worry about it too much :p
 

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Lollipop Chainsaw is what videogames are all about, any anyone who's getting their knickers in a twist over it needs to stop taking shit so seriously.
 

Ziame

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Silence, ye daft fool! 'Tis art.

Hereby your criticisms are null and void, as art is not to be fucked with, d00d.
 

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA (etc)

It's Suda 51, if nothing else the game is likely a satire of games in their current state. The industry really does need a good Suda 51 styled slap in the face, a slap doesn't take itself too seriously mind. I haven't played the game yet meself, but I shall do so when I've a bit of spare pocket change.
 

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SnakeoilSage said:
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SnakeoilSage said:
Yeah, it's creepy the way the game sexualized a high school minor
Not really. The schoolgirl/cheerleader uniform fetish is pretty common. And she doesn't look minor...

*Snerk* It's common yeah, but let's not beat around the (possibly non-existent) bush here: she's in high school, and unless she was held back a few grades, you should feel BAD for not blinking during those 3,000 or so up-skirt shots.
I've never felt bad about anything I've been attracted to. It's not as if I'm actually going to go out and rape a 16-year-old, am I?

Well, I'm currently 16 myself, but you get the idea. Even if I was 30, I wouldn't feel bad about being attracted to a 16-year-old. So what if she's in high school, she's got a nice body! Do you want to take me in, thought police?

And she's 18 anyway. And fictional.
 

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bullet_sandw1ch said:
as you may know, suda51 made a game called lollipop chainsaw. it involves a skimpily dressed teen girl killing zombies iwith a chainsaw. she looks pretty much what a drugged up hooker that played basketball would look like. her legs are so long,shes probably taller than 7 ft., and here mini skirt is so short, it might as well be a strip of cloth. it looks stupid, and it makes us look stupid. to prove this, in one point, a person she saves says "i never thought id be saved by someone with such great tits!!" i mean seriously, it makes our industry look stupid, and childish. what do you guys think? do games like this tarnish our already stained image?

P.S., i did not buy this, i just watched videos by people with the same complaint as i, showing the part ive referenced to.
The title appears to be a self-aware sendup of the things you're complaining about. The entire game appears to have its tongue firmly planted in its cheek.

Seems kind of silly to be complaining about it in that light. But whatever floats your boat. Even if it is a straight up piece of crap, I don't think you can seriously tell me that Shaft lessens the works of Scorsese or supermarket romance cheapens Melville.

Vault101 said:
no

its the kind of silly you don't get fussed over...kind of like Bayonetta
I don't see why anyone would get fussed over Bayo. It's feminist empowerment in its highest form.
 

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Zachary Amaranth said:
Vault101 said:
no

its the kind of silly you don't get fussed over...kind of like Bayonetta
I don't see why anyone would get fussed over Bayo. It's feminist empowerment in its highest form.
as interpreted by some people....me however, I'm not convinced
 

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wintercoat said:
Why should I feel bad? It's illegal to fuck a 16/17 year old, not admire their *ahem* assets. We aren't talking about a child after all.
Don't know where you're from, but in a good chunk of the country, it's not illegal to "fuck" a 16/17 year old.

However, for a lot of purposes, they are still children. So yeah. Because I live in a state where the age of consent is 16, I could sleep with as many 16 year old cheerleaders as I want. Still doesn't mean it isn't creepy to nail someone like, half my age.
 

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getoffmycloud said:
omega 616 said:
Say what you want but this game is just shameless pandering, come on ... there is an achievement for looking up her skirt ...

I am surprised Suda 51 didn't join up ninja theory, to make it as close to a generic pandering game as possible, slutty, barely dressed blonde chick, with blue eyes, killing zombies with a chainsaw ....

I think all of the people "defending" this with "don't take it so seriously" are the ones getting it to perv.

Nothing wrong with wanting to perv but the internet is full of naked people, people with actual flesh not a good polygon count.

I think it's weird this game got so much hype and buzz for such generic crap ...
If this is generic crap give me 10 other games where you can be a cheerleader killing zombies with a chainsaw while rainbows and all sorts of crazy shit happens on screen with some original bosses?
No, I mean it's got parts from other games, not entire other games that make it generic.

The player could have been killing any number of enemies but they chose zombies, for example.
 

getoffmycloud

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omega 616 said:
getoffmycloud said:
omega 616 said:
Say what you want but this game is just shameless pandering, come on ... there is an achievement for looking up her skirt ...

I am surprised Suda 51 didn't join up ninja theory, to make it as close to a generic pandering game as possible, slutty, barely dressed blonde chick, with blue eyes, killing zombies with a chainsaw ....

I think all of the people "defending" this with "don't take it so seriously" are the ones getting it to perv.

Nothing wrong with wanting to perv but the internet is full of naked people, people with actual flesh not a good polygon count.

I think it's weird this game got so much hype and buzz for such generic crap ...
If this is generic crap give me 10 other games where you can be a cheerleader killing zombies with a chainsaw while rainbows and all sorts of crazy shit happens on screen with some original bosses?
No, I mean it's got parts from other games, not entire other games that make it generic.

The player could have been killing any number of enemies but they chose zombies, for example.
so there is no such thing as an original game anymore by that explanation so being generic isn't a criticism unless you think all games are bad
 

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omega 616 said:
getoffmycloud said:
omega 616 said:
Say what you want but this game is just shameless pandering, come on ... there is an achievement for looking up her skirt ...

I am surprised Suda 51 didn't join up ninja theory, to make it as close to a generic pandering game as possible, slutty, barely dressed blonde chick, with blue eyes, killing zombies with a chainsaw ....

I think all of the people "defending" this with "don't take it so seriously" are the ones getting it to perv.

Nothing wrong with wanting to perv but the internet is full of naked people, people with actual flesh not a good polygon count.

I think it's weird this game got so much hype and buzz for such generic crap ...
If this is generic crap give me 10 other games where you can be a cheerleader killing zombies with a chainsaw while rainbows and all sorts of crazy shit happens on screen with some original bosses?
No, I mean it's got parts from other games, not entire other games that make it generic.

The player could have been killing any number of enemies but they chose zombies, for example.
You obviously don't understand the point of tongue in cheek satire
 

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lollipop chainsaw is clearly and unashamedly exploitation at its finest, which is why there is absolutely nothing wrong with it, this is not supposed to be a story about a teenage girl who is trying to find her place in the world and dealing with becoming a woman blah blah blah, and then suddenly a zombie apocalypse breaks out half way through at which point she then says "ok! now its time to slut it up and break out the chainsaw!" see the difference?
 

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While I would argue the game is pretty much total tripe I don't think it's having any kind of negative lasting effects on the industry as a whole. A year from now we will very likely have forgotten about the game for the most part.

However, I will say that I believe that had Suda51's name not been attached to the game the reviews would have been much MUCH lower as people wouldn't have been desperate to defend all the juvenile exploitation as some kind of witty satire. Since his name is on it though it is getting a massive pass by the bulk of the people reviewing it.

The bottom line is there are very few redeeming qualities about this game as it is nothing more than shameless pandering to the lowest common denominator. This game wasn't meant to be some satirical commentary on the gaming industry it was meant to sell a lot of copies because it had a half naked cheerleader killing zombies and about as much depth medicine cup.
 

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As someone who played the game for 12 hours straight (2 full playthroughs) I can say that no, it does not degrade the industry as a whole. Nor does it make us juvenile or perverted, as some people on this forum seems to think. If/when you play the game it is SO OBVIOUS that all the sexualisation, violence and immaturity is satirical. I mean come on, no person intheri right mind would make a game like LPC expecting people to take it seriously.

And to people saying it was boring, I can only say I'd much rather play this than COD or some other clone of it. How many games EVER MADE had zombies spray confetti and sparkles everywhere? The Combo reward system is called "Sparkle Hunting", there is a bunny suit costume you can wear, and you can throw around a talking head to kill zombies. Let's see COD do THAT.
 

omega 616

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JokerboyJordan said:
omega 616 said:
getoffmycloud said:
omega 616 said:
Say what you want but this game is just shameless pandering, come on ... there is an achievement for looking up her skirt ...

I am surprised Suda 51 didn't join up ninja theory, to make it as close to a generic pandering game as possible, slutty, barely dressed blonde chick, with blue eyes, killing zombies with a chainsaw ....

I think all of the people "defending" this with "don't take it so seriously" are the ones getting it to perv.

Nothing wrong with wanting to perv but the internet is full of naked people, people with actual flesh not a good polygon count.

I think it's weird this game got so much hype and buzz for such generic crap ...
If this is generic crap give me 10 other games where you can be a cheerleader killing zombies with a chainsaw while rainbows and all sorts of crazy shit happens on screen with some original bosses?
No, I mean it's got parts from other games, not entire other games that make it generic.

The player could have been killing any number of enemies but they chose zombies, for example.
You obviously don't understand the point of tongue in cheek satire
I do, it's just not this game.

People are just trying to put up some flimsy defense like you just did "oh, it's just a joke" ... "don't take it so seriously" ... "It's mocking the industry".

Well in all actuality all they want to do is perv.

There are other games that do the exact same thing, there is one about DLC, you have to buy the sound track, the ability to jump, the ability to move left etc as a jab at the game industry ... how much publicity does that game have? Fuck all, this game has a shit tonne 'cos the player is a slutty cheer leader.

I just watched the roosterteeth guys do a video on it and the gameplay looks boring (well I don't like DMC or Bayonetta either), the visuals are nothing special. It is just an average game selling like hot cakes 'cos the makers know how much nerds like fake girls.