Is this how we should handle Dick Pics?

[Drathnoxis]

It's also really stupid, as it's only one small step from your phone to the internet as a whole. It's so easy for a phone or computer to be hacked and for potentially embarrassing photos to be leaked, it's just better to never take them in the first place. A good rule of thumb is to never have anything you don't want the entire world to see on a device connected to the internet.

That is a pretty insane way of thinking. I am not supposed to take some sexy pics for my SO because there is some kind of miniscule chance that they end up online?
Nonsense. Nobody is "hacking" my phone or my computer. The fact that you think "hackers" are on the prowl for John Does dick pics means you haven't the slightest idea about what is going on.

The way shit you take (pics or video alike) end up on the Internet is if your SO leaks it. It isn't because of any "hacker" browsing your "Nude Pics" folder on your desktop.

I've read what you say later in the thread and I do agree that local files are safer files on cloud or email. However you also made a blanket recommendation that people send their nudie pics to eachother, and what are common ways that people are going to do this? Email, cloud, snapchat, and other easily hacked services.

Local files are safer, they aren't completely safe, however. Here is an article describing how hackers were able to completely take over a tech journalists computer, even though this was prearranged and she was aware that attempts were going to be made to compromise her system.

You are looking at this as if one person in particular is being targeted by hackers for one purpose, but even in that article the hacker says that these are likely to be blanket attacks to hack many people at once. Then once they are in the computer, they probably aren't just going to steal the nudie pics and run, but are going to do everything they can to make money. This includes grabbing financial information, selling nude pictures and videos to porn sites, encrypting the users files and ransoming them back, and however else they profit off of their intrusion. I said "anything you don't want the world to see" and I would not limit that to nude photos/videos, but would also include sensitive information, work, financial information, really anything that would be damaging if it were publicly available.

I'm just trying to say that a lot of people feel too safe with their computers. If you keep nudie pics of yourself or sensitive data on a device connected to the internet there is a not insignificant chance that it will end up compromised. The best way to completely protect your information from theft over the internet, is to not put it on a device connected to the internet.

 

[Lil devils x_v1legacy]

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I'm sorry, I thought that the question of the thread was if this is how dick pics should be handled from now on.

Yes, but according to what actually happened, it reduces it happening, not increases it to do so, that is why that makes no sense.

Do you really not see the folly in this kind of push-back against it?(not that I'm pro-dick pic) You throw a rock, you get a boulder in return, you build a thousand foot wall, you get a million foot ladder. You do this enough and you're going to get people that get upset at dick pics being sent far worse things(and honestly a dick pic is pretty innocent on the list of things you can send) because they went overboard which prompts more overboarding to occur.

I'm all for defending yourself(which this sorta is), but c'mon, guys have been doing this kind of thing to each other for shits and giggles since before cellphones. And the best defense against it has largely been the same, quit giving a shit about it and you save yourself a huge amount of annoyance.

"Quit giving a shit about it" is just another way of saying "Just sit there and take them imposing this upon you." You can save yourself a huge amount of annoyance too if they actually offer a service to send the dick pics to that will " take care of this" instead as well. So if they do make a service offering to contact these people when they send Dick pics, you can bet the amount of people willing to send them will greatly decrease when they know there will be consequences for doing so easily available for the people to access that they are sending them to.

 

[Something Amyss]

How does one get in position to be sent dick picks anyway? I guess she gets with instagram following but how most women get them?

Step 1. Have a profile somewhere that lists yourself as female.
Step 2. There is no step 2. This is pretty much all it takes to open shop for dick pics.

I meant more that proclaiming her actions on websites as a way to stop the harrasement will result in her increasing her harrasement in the future, basically "don't wake the dragon".

It seems the dragon has been emasculated.

...it feels like I should make some sort of joke here.

 

[Redryhno]

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I'm sorry, I thought that the question of the thread was if this is how dick pics should be handled from now on.

Yes, but according to what actually happened, it reduces it happening, not increases it to do so, that is why that makes no sense.

Do you really not see the folly in this kind of push-back against it?(not that I'm pro-dick pic) You throw a rock, you get a boulder in return, you build a thousand foot wall, you get a million foot ladder. You do this enough and you're going to get people that get upset at dick pics being sent far worse things(and honestly a dick pic is pretty innocent on the list of things you can send) because they went overboard which prompts more overboarding to occur.

I'm all for defending yourself(which this sorta is), but c'mon, guys have been doing this kind of thing to each other for shits and giggles since before cellphones. And the best defense against it has largely been the same, quit giving a shit about it and you save yourself a huge amount of annoyance.

"Quit giving a shit about it" is just another way of saying "Just sit there and take them imposing this upon you." You can save yourself a huge amount of annoyance too if they actually offer a service to send the dick pics to that will " take care of this" instead as well. So if they do make a service offering to contact these people when they send Dick pics, you can bet the amount of people willing to send them will greatly decrease when they know there will be consequences for doing so easily available for the people to access that they are sending them to.

Isn't there already some kind of system in place with pretty much every image sharer that you can report said images as it is? Why would there need to be a service that "takes care of it"?

Also, "quit giving a shit about it" is exactly what it sounds like, not what you're saying. It's not "sit there and let them impose themselves on you", it's "shit is going to happen in life, get used to it and barring truly traumatic events, you'll stop noticing that it happens". Dick pics are an annoyance, yes, but you don't go doing the exact same shit people routinely throw fits about when naked pics between partners are bandied about and say "righteous" here. Don't go out of your way to be a dick just because you saw a dick.

 

[Lil devils x_v1legacy]

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I'm sorry, I thought that the question of the thread was if this is how dick pics should be handled from now on.

Yes, but according to what actually happened, it reduces it happening, not increases it to do so, that is why that makes no sense.

Do you really not see the folly in this kind of push-back against it?(not that I'm pro-dick pic) You throw a rock, you get a boulder in return, you build a thousand foot wall, you get a million foot ladder. You do this enough and you're going to get people that get upset at dick pics being sent far worse things(and honestly a dick pic is pretty innocent on the list of things you can send) because they went overboard which prompts more overboarding to occur.

I'm all for defending yourself(which this sorta is), but c'mon, guys have been doing this kind of thing to each other for shits and giggles since before cellphones. And the best defense against it has largely been the same, quit giving a shit about it and you save yourself a huge amount of annoyance.

"Quit giving a shit about it" is just another way of saying "Just sit there and take them imposing this upon you." You can save yourself a huge amount of annoyance too if they actually offer a service to send the dick pics to that will " take care of this" instead as well. So if they do make a service offering to contact these people when they send Dick pics, you can bet the amount of people willing to send them will greatly decrease when they know there will be consequences for doing so easily available for the people to access that they are sending them to.

Isn't there already some kind of system in place with pretty much every image sharer that you can report said images as it is? Why would there need to be a service that "takes care of it"?

Also, "quit giving a shit about it" is exactly what it sounds like, not what you're saying. It's not "sit there and let them impose themselves on you", it's "shit is going to happen in life, get used to it and barring truly traumatic events, you'll stop noticing that it happens". Dick pics are an annoyance, yes, but you don't go doing the exact same shit people routinely throw fits about when naked pics between partners are bandied about and say "righteous" here. Don't go out of your way to be a dick just because you saw a dick.

What is the point of " reporting" something if it does nothing to reduce it from happening or even make the person doing these things think twice before they do so? Yes, it IS saying just sit there and let them impose themselves on you.. Kind of like just sitting there and allowing a dog to hump your leg. Sure some people are okay with that and just ignore it and don't give a shit about it, and just say " he'll be done in a minute." while others see a problem with that...

This has nothing to do with partners mutually agreeing to do something, nor are they even remotely related. Unsolicited is just that, they didn't consent to have this put upon them and someone feels entitled to think they should be able to impose this on others.

ALSO if they are reading their media at work, that can get them fired for viewing such material at work if it is against their company's policy to do so when they did not even ask to be viewing it in the first place.

 

[Wuvlycuddles]

So, hordes of men are sending random dick pics to this one woman? Methinks she's soliciting them.

According to my sister all they need is the ability to send private messages with pictures, if they so much as suspect your female you get the dick pics. My sister also recommends replying with comments like "aww it's so cute and small".

 

[Lil devils x_v1legacy]

So, hordes of men are sending random dick pics to this one woman? Methinks she's soliciting them.

According to my sister all they need is the ability to send private messages with pictures, if they so much as suspect your female you get the dick pics. My sister also recommends replying with comments like "aww it's so cute and small".

Yes, that and sending a magnifying glass or telling them they should "have their physician check that out for them.." helps as well to stop the pics, but then they just swear at you.. XD

 

[Redryhno]

What is the point of " reporting" something if it does nothing to reduce it from happening or even make the person doing these things think twice before they do so? Yes, it IS saying just sit there and let them impose themselves on you.. Kind of like just sitting there and allowing a dog to hump your leg. Sure some people are okay with that and just ignore it and don't give a shit about it, and just say " he'll be done in a minute." while others see a problem with that...

This has nothing to do with partners mutually agreeing to do something, nor are they even remotely related. Unsolicited is just that, they didn't consent to have this put upon them and someone feels entitled to think they should be able to impose this on others.

ALSO if they are reading their media at work, that can get them fired for viewing such material at work if it is against their company's policy to do so.

And what is the point of going out of your way to humiliate(however warranted it may be) said asshats? To make yourself feel better? To maybe stem the flood for a few minutes(hyperbole)?

And you've yet to answer me why it should now be the standard when the "laugh and forget it" routine has been going quite well since email became popular.

 

[Ihateregistering1]

...wives, girlfriends, sisters, aunts, mothers the pictures with a message that they deserve better than this.

Wives and girlfriends, ok, because they're being informed that the guy they're seeing or married to is cheating on them (or at least trying to).

But family members? They didn't do anything, why the hell is she dragging them into this?

This would be like if someone egged my house, and I discovered it happened to me because my neighbor stole that person's car. Why am I being punished for the actions of someone I have no choice but to know?

 

[DoPo]

How does one get in position to be sent dick picks anyway? I guess she gets with instagram following but how most women get them?

Step 1. Have a profile somewhere that lists yourself as female.
Step 2. There is no step 2. This is pretty much all it takes to open shop for dick pics.

Aww, man - and all these years, I've been completely ignoring females and NOT sending them dick picks, even though they've gone through all these steps.

Spoiler: Here, let me make it up

 

[Lil devils x_v1legacy]

What is the point of " reporting" something if it does nothing to reduce it from happening or even make the person doing these things think twice before they do so? Yes, it IS saying just sit there and let them impose themselves on you.. Kind of like just sitting there and allowing a dog to hump your leg. Sure some people are okay with that and just ignore it and don't give a shit about it, and just say " he'll be done in a minute." while others see a problem with that...

This has nothing to do with partners mutually agreeing to do something, nor are they even remotely related. Unsolicited is just that, they didn't consent to have this put upon them and someone feels entitled to think they should be able to impose this on others.

ALSO if they are reading their media at work, that can get them fired for viewing such material at work if it is against their company's policy to do so.

And what is the point of going out of your way to humiliate(however warranted it may be) said asshats? To make yourself feel better? To maybe stem the flood for a few minutes(hyperbole)?

And you've yet to answer me why it should now be the standard when the "laugh and forget it" routine has been going quite well since email became popular.

Going out of your way to ensure there are consequences for sending unwanted dick pics is to reduce it from happening and to ALSO warn those around the person doing it that this is the type of person they are dealing with. Not everyone finds it as amusing as you might.

 

[Lil devils x_v1legacy]

...wives, girlfriends, sisters, aunts, mothers the pictures with a message that they deserve better than this.

Wives and girlfriends, ok, because they're being informed that the guy they're seeing or married to is cheating on them (or at least trying to).

But family members? They didn't do anything, why the hell is she dragging them into this?

This would be like if someone egged my house, and I discovered it happened to me because my neighbor stole that person's car. Why am I being punished for the actions of someone I have no choice but to know?

They are " dragging them into this" to try and make them stop imposing this on others. If everyone who thinks about doing this to people knows that if they do, their family, friends and neighbors will find out about it, maybe they wont do it in the first place? Maybe the frequency this happens will greatly reduce if they do. That is the point of it, it is to put a stop to it.

It is no different than if someone robs a bank and gets caught and people let their friends family and neighbors know they did. (That already happens)

If a guy runs around exposing himself to people in person, he does not stop it from being shown on the evening news for his family to see either. This should not be any different than that.

 

[Redryhno]

What is the point of " reporting" something if it does nothing to reduce it from happening or even make the person doing these things think twice before they do so? Yes, it IS saying just sit there and let them impose themselves on you.. Kind of like just sitting there and allowing a dog to hump your leg. Sure some people are okay with that and just ignore it and don't give a shit about it, and just say " he'll be done in a minute." while others see a problem with that...

This has nothing to do with partners mutually agreeing to do something, nor are they even remotely related. Unsolicited is just that, they didn't consent to have this put upon them and someone feels entitled to think they should be able to impose this on others.

ALSO if they are reading their media at work, that can get them fired for viewing such material at work if it is against their company's policy to do so.

And what is the point of going out of your way to humiliate(however warranted it may be) said asshats? To make yourself feel better? To maybe stem the flood for a few minutes(hyperbole)?

And you've yet to answer me why it should now be the standard when the "laugh and forget it" routine has been going quite well since email became popular.

Going out of your way to ensure there are consequences for sending unwanted dick pics is to reduce it from happening and to ALSO warn those around the person doing it that this is the type of person they are dealing with. Not everyone finds it as amusing as you might.

Whatever you say buddy. I don't find it amusing, just that there's alot more effort being put into something that you're essentially just hoping it doesn't happen again than it would be to just ignore that it happened. You think guys haven't gotten unsolicited boob pics? Or their own dick pics? Like I said, shit happens, it's a picture on the internet, like who can literally give a shit unless that's the only thing they're getting?

 

[Lil devils x_v1legacy]

What is the point of " reporting" something if it does nothing to reduce it from happening or even make the person doing these things think twice before they do so? Yes, it IS saying just sit there and let them impose themselves on you.. Kind of like just sitting there and allowing a dog to hump your leg. Sure some people are okay with that and just ignore it and don't give a shit about it, and just say " he'll be done in a minute." while others see a problem with that...

This has nothing to do with partners mutually agreeing to do something, nor are they even remotely related. Unsolicited is just that, they didn't consent to have this put upon them and someone feels entitled to think they should be able to impose this on others.

ALSO if they are reading their media at work, that can get them fired for viewing such material at work if it is against their company's policy to do so.

And what is the point of going out of your way to humiliate(however warranted it may be) said asshats? To make yourself feel better? To maybe stem the flood for a few minutes(hyperbole)?

And you've yet to answer me why it should now be the standard when the "laugh and forget it" routine has been going quite well since email became popular.

Going out of your way to ensure there are consequences for sending unwanted dick pics is to reduce it from happening and to ALSO warn those around the person doing it that this is the type of person they are dealing with. Not everyone finds it as amusing as you might.

Whatever you say buddy. I don't find it amusing, just that there's alot more effort being put into something that you're essentially just hoping it doesn't happen again than it would be to just ignore that it happened. You think guys haven't gotten unsolicited boob pics? Or their own dick pics? Like I said, shit happens, it's a picture on the internet, like who can literally give a shit unless that's the only thing they're getting?

Why would I think guys haven't gotten unsolicited nude pics? If a girl is sending out unsolicited pictures of her vag or boobs (though still unsolicited, boobs are not a sex organ) I see no reason for them to be treated any different than these guys. I don't think anyone even remotely suggested they be treated any different.

It should be treated the same as a flasher is in public..
http://amarillo.com/news/latest-news/2015-10-20/police-convenience-store-flasher-arrested
They are exposed not only to their family, friends, neighbors, coworkers when they do this in person, they are arrested as well..

 

[Something Amyss]

On a side note to this thread, please...nobody complain the next time an "Elevatorgate" comes up.

If your response to this sort of thing is effectively "deal with it," don't complain when women are uncomfortable. That is them dealing with it. They are dealing with it by being wary around dudes, because apparently this is socially acceptable behaviour.

Aww, man - and all these years, I've been completely ignoring females and NOT sending them dick picks, even though they've gone through all these steps.

Spoiler: Here, let me make it up

That's a mighty impressive Dick you got there.

But family members? They didn't do anything, why the hell is she dragging them into this?

Why did anyone drag her into this in the first place?

Except while one's a callous act, one's simply a calculated one. You make sure people are aware to reduce the likelihood of this happening again.

Going out of your way to ensure there are consequences for sending unwanted dick pics is to reduce it from happening and to ALSO warn those around the person doing it that this is the type of person they are dealing with. Not everyone finds it as amusing as you might.

Also because this is tacitly socially acceptable, and the only way to deal with that is to drag it into the open. And you will find people who will condone and/or accept this behaviour in the first place.

 

[Estarc]

Good on her. I think in this instance the punishment suits the crime, so to speak.

 

[The Almighty Aardvark]

What???
Assuming you're saving some picture that your SO sent and you don't have it lying anywhere online, as in having deleted the email, the message from the cloud or whatever the fuck, then you are SAFE.

The useless skid keylogger doesn't help with actually accessing your computer, only helps accessing your online accounts. SO IF IT IS ONLY SAVED LOCALLY, THERE IS NO RISK.

I don't entirely get why stealing pictures someone left online is treated so differently than anything else. If you gave a physical picture to your partner and someone found it hidden away while robbing your house, would people be jumping on them in the same way saying that they shouldn't be so stupid as to have a physical copy lying around where anyone could break into their house and steal it?

What about people trying to sneak panty shots in public? Were they asking for it by wearing something that gave someone the opportunity to sneak photos of their underwear? Honestly, that probably happens more often than people hacking your email to steal your photos.

I really don't get why, when someone's clearly doing something wrong to get the photos, why we treat the online world so much different than the physical one. If anything, it should be the other way around, because most people have more knowledge about how how people can get nude pictures of them in the physical world than the online one.

 

[DoPo]

like who can literally give a shit unless that's the only thing they're getting?

Why should you give a shit what other people do or not? You seem awfully invested in this and it doesn't even concern you at all[footnote]unless you like sending unsolicited dick, that is[/footnote]. And now, here is the thing - what if it did? What if there was an issue that did concern you - would you similarly just go "No, I shouldn't be concerned"? Because your attitude here shows that you can and do concern yourself with stuff. When directly related, the concerns are usually intensified.

At any rate, what I'm trying to say here is the following: some people care. You say they shouldn't, yet at the same time you care about something I can say you shouldn't. Imposing one's attitude on others doesn't really work - people care about what they want to care. Yeah, not a thunderously shocking revelation there, yet it seems it needed to be mentioned.

 

[Lil devils x_v1legacy]

What???
Assuming you're saving some picture that your SO sent and you don't have it lying anywhere online, as in having deleted the email, the message from the cloud or whatever the fuck, then you are SAFE.

The useless skid keylogger doesn't help with actually accessing your computer, only helps accessing your online accounts. SO IF IT IS ONLY SAVED LOCALLY, THERE IS NO RISK.

I don't entirely get why stealing pictures someone left online is treated so differently than anything else. If you gave a physical picture to your partner and someone found it hidden away while robbing your house, would people be jumping on them in the same way saying that they shouldn't be so stupid as to have a physical copy lying around where anyone could break into their house and steal it?

What about people trying to sneak panty shots in public? Were they asking for it by wearing something that gave someone the opportunity to sneak photos of their underwear? Honestly, that probably happens more often than people hacking your email to steal your photos.

I really don't get why, when someone's clearly doing something wrong to get the photos, why we treat the online world so much different than the physical one. If anything, it should be the other way around, because most people have more knowledge about how how people can get nude pictures of them in the physical world than the online one.

Of course it should not be treated any different than any other crime, at the same time , however, We should make it very clear that it is impossible to " secure the internet". The internet should be treated the same as being on public display including anything you have " hooked up to the internet" due to the inability to secure it. Basically, anything that actually requires it be secure should not be connected to the internet.

Going on the internet is like sitting in a bar in the middle of a bunch of known thieves and expecting not to be robbed.

 

[JimB]

There are two reasons not to take a course of action. The first is that it will not achieve the goal you have set out to accomplish, which does not seem to be the case here, as Ms. Sears's testimony indicates it has successfully reduced the amount of harassment she has received. The second is that the course of action taken will accomplish the goal but cause an undue amount of harm along the way, which I do not believe is the case here, as I think a harasser's friends and family deserve to know that the person they associate with is scum. This knowledge may cause pain, but ultimately it is not Ms. Sears causing the pain; it is the behavior of the person whose actions she is exposing.

Do you really not see the folly in this kind of push-back against it (not that I'm pro-dick pic)? You throw a rock, you get a boulder in return.

The idea that a person must endure harassment or else she will be subjected to harassment seems like a self-evidently flawed one to me, and that's even before we take into account that Ms. Sears's methods are working out as she hopes.

This would be like if someone egged my house, and I discovered it happened to me because my neighbor stole that person's car. Why am I being punished for the actions of someone I have no choice but to know?

Being told the truth is not a form of punishment.