"Kill Castro" Mission Leads to Black Ops Boycott Call
- Thread starter Andy Chalk
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see, heres the problem. these watchdog groups are usually filed by 1o f 3 types of people. the "jack thompson" types who fundamentally hate video games because they are "immoral" or whatever. the empty headed activist who will do or join anything if it gives them a "holier than thou" complex, and the over protective parents who would rather have their children put in a small padded cell devoid of any form of "in appropriate" subject matter, than actually try and controll what their kids see.
this group trying to call the game "pornography" obviosuly havent spent much time on MTV or the internet. go watch a rap video or two. i could write a BOOK on what yo usee in those, but i digress.
ANYWAY. i could blame parents not doign their jobs and takeing responsibility. i could blame politicians looking for an easy wave to ride into office. i could even blame the 1 or 2 nutter's who forget to take their lithium, play dead rising and decide the neighbor looks a little too "zombeish"
but i think the MAIN problem lies in the fact that these groups just have far too much time on their hands. they sit and piddle away their time on petty shit like this, hopeing to gain easy popularity, when theres more serious issues at hand.
tell me "allergenic for global justice" where were you when serbians were killing croats in bosnia? where are you on the plight of under developed countries like south africa? what are you doing about the drug wars? about the millions of homeless and starving around the globe hmm? oh right. your protecting us from our game consoles. from this "pornography"
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this group trying to call the game "pornography" obviosuly havent spent much time on MTV or the internet. go watch a rap video or two. i could write a BOOK on what yo usee in those, but i digress.
ANYWAY. i could blame parents not doign their jobs and takeing responsibility. i could blame politicians looking for an easy wave to ride into office. i could even blame the 1 or 2 nutter's who forget to take their lithium, play dead rising and decide the neighbor looks a little too "zombeish"
but i think the MAIN problem lies in the fact that these groups just have far too much time on their hands. they sit and piddle away their time on petty shit like this, hopeing to gain easy popularity, when theres more serious issues at hand.
tell me "allergenic for global justice" where were you when serbians were killing croats in bosnia? where are you on the plight of under developed countries like south africa? what are you doing about the drug wars? about the millions of homeless and starving around the globe hmm? oh right. your protecting us from our game consoles. from this "pornography"
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I laughed at this line:
Two: This is the biggest pile of shit I've ever heard. People can make millions off ACTUAL pornography which is ok, but games that are NOT pornography are horrible?
One: Germans are so squeamish about violence since WW2 (I wonder why...) that they censor the hell out of EVERYTHING. I wouldn't be surprised if I heard someone tell me they censored Teletubbies. And as for Japan, everybody knows that if it does not have rape, it won't enter the country. Seriously though, Japan and Germany are pretty much the lands that ban games or censor them heavily no questions asked. So that this is somehow forced to be relevant is ridiculous.the article said:
Two: This is the biggest pile of shit I've ever heard. People can make millions off ACTUAL pornography which is ok, but games that are NOT pornography are horrible?
Ha! What a pointless statement. I'm gonna come up with my own, ahem...
'THESE GAMES ARE THE DIRECT ROAD TO SATAN, FOR TO SIMULATE MURDER IS TO COMMIT MURDER WITHIN YOUR SOUL!'
or
'It's scientific fact that video games turn 97% of children in to fascist dictators by their mid 30's'
It's this whole 'desensitized to violence' thing that confuses me. Following the Porn tangent, I've watched loads of porn but I still get wood in the presence of naked lady. If that isn't affected I'm not sure how getting repeatedly punched in the face would be any less unpleasant just because it happened to me once in a game.
'THESE GAMES ARE THE DIRECT ROAD TO SATAN, FOR TO SIMULATE MURDER IS TO COMMIT MURDER WITHIN YOUR SOUL!'
or
'It's scientific fact that video games turn 97% of children in to fascist dictators by their mid 30's'
It's this whole 'desensitized to violence' thing that confuses me. Following the Porn tangent, I've watched loads of porn but I still get wood in the presence of naked lady. If that isn't affected I'm not sure how getting repeatedly punched in the face would be any less unpleasant just because it happened to me once in a game.
cobrausn said:
That's why I said to call any nation the bad guy is childish.
And I've seen the game, the section isn't about the Missile Crisis, it's about killing Castro soon after the revolution, during the Bay of Pigs. That entire event was right up there with allowing Mossad and other dingbats run around undermining Argentina and other nations in their hunt for Nazis in "Reasons why the Americans tried really hard to make the Soviet Union look like the good guys."
The only reason Cuba even got tied to the Soviet Union was the Embargo placed by the United States, bitter over losing power over one of their puppet governments.
Cuba was being run into the ground by Batista, and if the Americans had offered help, or at least neutrality, to Castro, the whole thing could have been avoided.
The entire Cold War was due to Big Businesses fears of any kind of Social Reform and their rigid refusal to peacefully discuss things or make conditions better for the workers.
Show me a Cold War conflict that wasn't based off of stubbornness, greed, or stupidity and I'll show you a unicorn.
Who wants to hear something conspicuously absent from this?
anyone whos actually completed black ops knows that actually the ending isnt all rosy for the protagonist and as i dont know how to do the spoiler thing, ill just say that there is another twist to do with another president and Mason
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and i dont mean nazi zombies in the pentagon
anyone whos actually completed black ops knows that actually the ending isnt all rosy for the protagonist and as i dont know how to do the spoiler thing, ill just say that there is another twist to do with another president and Mason
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and i dont mean nazi zombies in the pentagon
It's actually really funny about what I thought when I first heard this: my mother escaped from Cuba with her family when she was a girl. It just so happened that it came in right in the middle of the sixties, so my family narrowly escaped Communism. So I think it's interesting that it opens with a mission to assassinate Fidel. Personally, I don't think it would have helped much given that they'd probably also have to kill Raoul Castro to take care of that.
Although, it is interesting about his portrayal in the game; there isn't really a whole lot to say about him from his portrayal in the game, but I once asked my grandmother about Fidel for a project I was doing at the conservatory. She says that she knew who he was when he was at the University of Havana (though I don't think she knew him personally in any sense), and apparently he was actually a really charismatic guy; she didn't actually notice anything was wrong until a small little incident involving prisoners of war from when they overthrew Batista's regime. (I forget the exact incident, but it was her first clue that something wasn't right with this picture.) It makes it particularly interesting when the prostitute pulls the gun on you after "Fidel" uses her as a hostage; it might play into that a little bit.
I'll have to mention this mission to them when I go home for the Thanksgiving break. I think it would be interesting to see what they have to say on the subject.
Although, it is interesting about his portrayal in the game; there isn't really a whole lot to say about him from his portrayal in the game, but I once asked my grandmother about Fidel for a project I was doing at the conservatory. She says that she knew who he was when he was at the University of Havana (though I don't think she knew him personally in any sense), and apparently he was actually a really charismatic guy; she didn't actually notice anything was wrong until a small little incident involving prisoners of war from when they overthrew Batista's regime. (I forget the exact incident, but it was her first clue that something wasn't right with this picture.) It makes it particularly interesting when the prostitute pulls the gun on you after "Fidel" uses her as a hostage; it might play into that a little bit.
I'll have to mention this mission to them when I go home for the Thanksgiving break. I think it would be interesting to see what they have to say on the subject.
I tried a few dictionaries, and they did not seem to support your deifnition of the word. The etymology given was it comming from the greek word pornē, meaning prostitute, which is quite directly linked to sex.Akalabeth said:
In any case, there's no such thing as a "true definition". Old defninitions are irrelevant as the word today, means what the word means today.
Really? Got a nice big thesis about that, because that's a grand statement you've got there.KAPTAINmORGANnWo4life said:
I seem to recall U.S. workers being treated far better than Soviet or any other communist worker. I don't know what kind of 'Social Reform' you thought they were representing, but those 'evil Big Businesses' certainly weren't afraid of it.
Hahaha....AstylahAthrys said:
You'll eat those words.
EDIT: The game is pretty tasteless all the time. The one saving grace is the voice acting from Reznov. It may be cartoonish and somewhat silly, but next to the other faceless fearless warriors of the U.S.tothefuckingA., he's interesting.
EDIT EDIT: I just remembered he's a stereotype too. Shit, there goes that argument. He's still better fleshed out than anyone else, I guess.
Actually, it is a technically legitimate use of the word "pornography" - http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/pornographyDSK- said:
[pawr-nog-ruh-fee]
?noun
obscene writings, drawings, photographs, or the like, esp. those having little or no artistic merit.
So in their opinion it is pornographic, as it has no artistic merit.
They're idiots and wrong, and there's no point boycotting now they've made millions on it, but they are at least grammatically correct.
"The Alliance for Global Justice"...what? it sounds like something a bunch of little kids would come up with...if they were really lame and didn't have any imagination.
On topic, meh. Nobody gives a shit about Castros hurt feelings and everyone knows that the most played part of black ops will always be the zombie game, so it doesn't matter what happens in the campaign.
On topic, meh. Nobody gives a shit about Castros hurt feelings and everyone knows that the most played part of black ops will always be the zombie game, so it doesn't matter what happens in the campaign.
Oh, sweet sweet irony!Andy Chalk said:
As for the ad, brilliant. That much concentrated madness in one ad is just pure brilliant.
Two major problems jump out at me here despite the knee-jerk reaction to violence.
1.) It's not meant to be sold to kids. Granted that hasn't stopped half my school from owning the game but still, this "protect the kids" line of thought is flawed right from the off.
2.) This is not pornography. Learn what the word means.
1.) It's not meant to be sold to kids. Granted that hasn't stopped half my school from owning the game but still, this "protect the kids" line of thought is flawed right from the off.
2.) This is not pornography. Learn what the word means.
