lollipop Chainsaw is a terrible idea.

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Furioso

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If the future is full of nothing but artsy games, than I weep for the boring future it will be
 

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rolfwesselius said:
xXxJessicaxXx said:
I see it as kind of making fun of the trend and it's clearly meant to be comedy so I don't have too much of an issue with it.

It's at least nice to have another female lead I guess.
Wait what is the difference between over the top like this and over the top like soul calibur?
Im not judging you just wondering what is the difference.
I think it's the tone. Lollipop Chainsaw is in the spirit of comedy and suggests that this sort of blatant pandering is something to be amused by and mocked.

I guess that's why it doesn't bother me that much.

IGN's model competition made me gag a bit though, was a bit too far I think.
 

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erttheking said:
So? Micheal Bay still makes movies but films are still considered respectable.
Burn! Although I agree completely. Just think of all the gore filled exploitation movies that exist, did they undermine the artistic merits of movies as an artistic medium?
 

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TaintedSaint said:
Gaming as a whole in recent years has tried to prove to the world that it is a valid artistic medium on par with film and should be protected under the first amendment I believe games like Lollipop Chainsaw do nothing but hurt the progress
that the medium has made of the years.
People in politics over the years have said that games are too violent and have too much sex in them and this game is blatantly throwing it in everyone face. Sure the game companies can say "its a mature game kids should not play it" But come on its a half naked chick in a schoolgirl uniform killing zombies basically every 14 year old boys wet dream.
I for one and not normally one to cry that games have too much sex and violence but this game is blatantly spiting in the face of all the hard work game developers have fought for for so long.
And yet Lolipop Chainsaw is going to be one of the most clever games to come out this year.
 

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There have been countless movies and books etc that have hurt the representation as an art form thing for each medium, anyone else here thought the happening was a good show that represented movies as an art form? If you did I certainly hope someone stabs you in the eye GAWD what a fucking horrible movie. Just becasue something can be seen as an art form doesn't mean it must be disected to be understood, sometimes artwork is just best looked at to be appreciated. Art is not static, art is fluid, constantly changing shape to find meaning ,and perspective depending on the perspective of the voyuer, the artist/s, and the society. Plus killing things is fucking fun.
 

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Not even got a clue what it is, but bad art does not render the entire medium non-art. It's just bad art.
 

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Suda 51 and Lollipop Chainsaw, and everything else he has made, are an example of the advancement of the medium. We have now, thanks to Suda 51, achieved a level of "grindhouse games." We already have plenty of mindless action games, deep dramas (regardless of how people feel about endings), and a large number of ongoing serials (MMOs). That is if you want to use a TV/Film comparison.
Now that we are up to the level where we feel comfortable ripping on our own culture and producing schlock of terrible-yet-highly-entertaining quality than we have achieved a level at least equal to the other forms of narration that are out there and can now move on to surpass those and stop worrying about how Games are viewed by its siblings of other media.

Personally, I love Suda 51 stuff and can not wait for Lollipop Chainsaw to make me laugh my ass off playing a cheerleader with a bedazzled chainsaw cutting down monsters.
 

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If games being art means I won't get silly stuff like Lollipop Chainsaw, that actually looks like a game and seems fun to play, then I'm absolutely against games being considered art.
 

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I saw this at SXSW, they had a giant school bus and everything.

I won't hate on it because it's all about the lolis, I'll hate on it because it's a generic hack and slash that isn't terribly fun to play.
 

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Rawne1980 said:
Ladies and gentlemen .... and you, yes you....

This is the reason why the whole "games as art" shit pisses me off.

I like my over the top absurd games. Some people get it in their heads that all games must now be like Journey to move the medium forward.

To them I say, piss off and leave our fun games alone.


Seriously, as soon as I saw the words "valid artistic medium" I just thought to myself: "Oh for fucks sake...it's one of THOSE people"

I'm not sure what it says about my mindset but when I see something like this:


I just think: "Brilliant" Snobby artsy fartsy people be damned!
 

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Rawne1980 said:
Ladies and gentlemen .... and you, yes you....

This is the reason why the whole "games as art" shit pisses me off.

I like my over the top absurd games. Some people get it in their heads that all games must now be like Journey to move the medium forward.

To them I say, piss off and leave our fun games alone.
Exactly!
Games are not "art", they are an art form. And just because they are an art form does not means we cannot have some over the top crazy fun, and every game must be "deep" and have symbolism. So Lollipop chainsaw gets the rights to pass as a video game.
 

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TaintedSaint said:
its a half naked chick in a schoolgirl uniform killing zombies basically every 14 year old boys wet dream.
Firstly, shes in a Cheerleader uniform, which is every Man's dream.

Secondly, there is worse out there in gaming, and its still doing fine.
 

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TaintedSaint said:
Gaming as a whole in recent years has tried to prove to the world that it is a valid artistic medium on par with film and should be protected under the first amendment I believe games like Lollipop Chainsaw do nothing but hurt the progress
that the medium has made of the years.
People in politics over the years have said that games are too violent and have too much sex in them and this game is blatantly throwing it in everyone face. Sure the game companies can say "its a mature game kids should not play it" But come on its a half naked chick in a schoolgirl uniform killing zombies basically every 14 year old boys wet dream.
I for one and not normally one to cry that games have too much sex and violence but this game is blatantly spiting in the face of all the hard work game developers have fought for for so long.
Its Suda51. He can make batshit insane into art. That is HIS business......and SWEARY too.

Also, if you havent noticed, No More Heroes may seem like a mindless game but its a well done social commentary on the hardcore gamer community reflected on the main character Travis Touchdown

That its because a work of x medium is as smart as the people who watches/plays/reads it. The only person who is unable to find meaning to something is someone who is brain dead,mostly dead, kinda dead or a politician.
 

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So we should all just stick to realistic boring moral-tastic games then?

No thanks, a bit of sheer madness livens up the monotony of the pile of straight laced FPS's or "party" games. Bat shit weird games are why I got into this hobby in the first place.
 

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What, we can't have just one silly little nonsensical game once in a while?
The only thing that can ruin gaming is trying to make every game a work of art.
 

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erttheking said:
So? Micheal Bay still makes movies but films are still considered respectable.
And literature will not die just because a dumb 40's something ***** makes a retarded and mysoginistic work of romance about vampires and werewolves and pedophilia and mary sues.

Nor it will EVER destroy works of genius like everything Jorge Luis Borges makes.
 

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wooty said:
So we should all just stick to realistic boring moral-tastic games then?

No thanks, a bit of sheer madness livens up the monotony of the pile of straight laced FPS's or "party" games. Bat shit weird games are why I got into this hobby in the first place.
What kind of insanity have you been subjected thanks to gaming? what games did you play in all your life that fit that criteria?
 

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TaintedSaint said:
Gaming as a whole in recent years has tried to prove to the world that it is a valid artistic medium on par with film and should be protected under the first amendment I believe games like Lollipop Chainsaw do nothing but hurt the progress.
To sit there and say you support how video games should be a valid artistic medium and protected under the first amendment but then decry the violence and blatent sexuality in Lollipop Chainsaw is a tad bit hypocritical...
 

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Since games are now protected under the first amendment we don't have to give a shit about fox news or the daily mail or some idiot parent that bought a mature game for their 8 year old without researching it.

The game cannot be banned it cannot be censored therefore we can ignore all the negative opinions from people who are full of shit and if you think a game has gone too far then just ignore it.

And another thing OP by your definition we shouldn't have games like just cause and dead rising cause they are just about silly violence or portal that's just a sadistic robot creating elaborate ways to kill people hell I could probably come up with a reason why every single game in existence should be banned but it would be all bullshit