Mass Effect 3 Fans Will Find Closure June 26th
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And then there is me, that guy who still hasn't gotten around to beating the first ME. Not that I'll be getting 3 until EA finishes feuding with Steam. I'm not buying a console just for one game and I'm not plugging into Origin.War Penguin said:
OT: As an impartial observer I have a raised eyebrow. Pretty sure this is like returning to the wasp nest you threw rocks at earlier with a hockey stick and booze. You're not going to knock the angry wasps away in one blow, you're going to miss and get stung repeatedly...
Free? I honestly wasn't expecting that.
I mean, just about everyone has been bitching out anything BioWare/EA has done over this- or any other game for that matter, but I didn't expect the "okay, they're pissed off, just give it to them for free" response here. Still not as down on the ME3 ending as some people out there. Disappointed, but not terrible or worth formally accusing EA of false advertising. I would hope people would at least give them some props for the price of FREE on this and all the other DLC for ME3 so far.
Not that it has to change their opinion or that EA/BioWare break even in the "props" department- but at least a smidge out of the red.
When it's all said and done though, watch the comments, 4chan and r/gaming for the inevitable "rants" on how:
*this changes nothing
*EA sucks
*EA is raping my childhood
*EA SUCKS AMIRITE?!?
*I have unrealistic expectations for how a corporation can unfuck a PR nightmare
*games since 19XX suck
*Tali Tali Tali Tali Tali Tali Tali Tali Tali Tali Tali Tali Tali
*______ is still a better ending than ME3, amiritE????
*hey guys look at this underrated gem (wildly popular game before 1998) Itook a picture of on my shelf found at Goodwill.
I mean, just about everyone has been bitching out anything BioWare/EA has done over this- or any other game for that matter, but I didn't expect the "okay, they're pissed off, just give it to them for free" response here. Still not as down on the ME3 ending as some people out there. Disappointed, but not terrible or worth formally accusing EA of false advertising. I would hope people would at least give them some props for the price of FREE on this and all the other DLC for ME3 so far.
Not that it has to change their opinion or that EA/BioWare break even in the "props" department- but at least a smidge out of the red.
When it's all said and done though, watch the comments, 4chan and r/gaming for the inevitable "rants" on how:
*this changes nothing
*EA sucks
*EA is raping my childhood
*EA SUCKS AMIRITE?!?
*I have unrealistic expectations for how a corporation can unfuck a PR nightmare
*games since 19XX suck
*Tali Tali Tali Tali Tali Tali Tali Tali Tali Tali Tali Tali Tali
*______ is still a better ending than ME3, amiritE????
*hey guys look at this underrated gem (wildly popular game before 1998) I
To be honest I'm one of those people who didn't think all of Mass Effect 3 was awesome up until the ending.
With the exception of the Rannoch and Tuchanka missions I found the main quests to be rather dull and poorly designed shooting galleries.
Then sticking with quests, how about the tedium of the eaves-dropping sides quests and the poorly designed and vague journal that doesn't update your progress.
How about the face import bug that still doesn't work correctly after Bioware's 'fix'.
Not to mention the comedy animations, poor texture work, terrible lip-synch.
Then we have the promise that all content would be available through single player alone, and that multiplayer was just an alternative to getting there, something that proved to be a lie no matter how short that 'breath' scene may be.
Of course then I must mention the amount of dialogue on which the player gets no input and how many of them have been turned into passive "Zaeed and Kasumi" (in ME2) style conversations.
Despite all that though I could have forgiven it all if the ending had been spectacular. Even the nonsense logic of the Star-Child could have been ignored, I could have forgiven them not factoring in my choices through the trilogy.
But to tell me that the Red, Green or Blue choice is going to result in vastly different outcomes, only to then show me virtually identical ending cinematics was something I couldn't overcome.
At the very least I hope the Extended Cut makes that final choice truly reflect the colour you pick.
With the exception of the Rannoch and Tuchanka missions I found the main quests to be rather dull and poorly designed shooting galleries.
Then sticking with quests, how about the tedium of the eaves-dropping sides quests and the poorly designed and vague journal that doesn't update your progress.
How about the face import bug that still doesn't work correctly after Bioware's 'fix'.
Not to mention the comedy animations, poor texture work, terrible lip-synch.
Then we have the promise that all content would be available through single player alone, and that multiplayer was just an alternative to getting there, something that proved to be a lie no matter how short that 'breath' scene may be.
Of course then I must mention the amount of dialogue on which the player gets no input and how many of them have been turned into passive "Zaeed and Kasumi" (in ME2) style conversations.
Despite all that though I could have forgiven it all if the ending had been spectacular. Even the nonsense logic of the Star-Child could have been ignored, I could have forgiven them not factoring in my choices through the trilogy.
But to tell me that the Red, Green or Blue choice is going to result in vastly different outcomes, only to then show me virtually identical ending cinematics was something I couldn't overcome.
At the very least I hope the Extended Cut makes that final choice truly reflect the colour you pick.
"expands on the meaning of the original endings" This is what has me worried. Does this mean that like with the Extended Cut DLC, we will be getting more of the ending we didn't want and then scenes to explain the things we didn't like with more things we don't like?
They really have to do something great with the current ending for it to make sense and be possible, I still refuse to believe that Joker would abandon Shepard like he would have had to have done for the ending to actually happen. Bioware screwed themselves over with this ending, and I can fully support the fans in their rage. Nothing you did in the game has any effect whatsoever and you get to chose the lightshow color at the end. The ending itself makes no sense, comes out of nowhere and is written on the level of a middle schooler writing fanfiction. It really comes down to the Indoctrination Theory being their only way out now.
They really have to do something great with the current ending for it to make sense and be possible, I still refuse to believe that Joker would abandon Shepard like he would have had to have done for the ending to actually happen. Bioware screwed themselves over with this ending, and I can fully support the fans in their rage. Nothing you did in the game has any effect whatsoever and you get to chose the lightshow color at the end. The ending itself makes no sense, comes out of nowhere and is written on the level of a middle schooler writing fanfiction. It really comes down to the Indoctrination Theory being their only way out now.
I wouldn't have had half the problems with the ending if there were at the very least a final boss, and it could have easily been added into the final 10 minute portion easily.
I mean, in the first game you fight Sovereign through Saren's cybernetic corpse. In 3, why not have Harbinger "ASSUME CONTROL" of a cybernetically modified Illusive Man and have some arena-based battleground fight just like as was done with Kai Leng. All the while Shepard, Harbinger, and Illusive Man have a 3-way banter going on over who should be victorious, culminating in one final push from Shepard to gun down his ultimate nemesis, meanwhile in reality the Allied Forces see Harbinger's shield's go down just like what happened with Sovereign and then a montage scene of ALL the forces you gathered combining infantry, artillary, and air power to take down the galaxy's first reaper.
Shit would have been so goddamned cash and secured in every gamers mind that Bioware makes awesome stories in addition to games. Instead Casey Hudson wanted to be all Stanley Kubrick and deny us a worthy climax.
I swear to god it's like that Blink 182 song: "We started making out, and she took off my pants, and then I turn on the TV. And that's about the time she walked away from me..."
I really hope this DLC doesn't just widen the hole ME3's ending left inside.
I mean, in the first game you fight Sovereign through Saren's cybernetic corpse. In 3, why not have Harbinger "ASSUME CONTROL" of a cybernetically modified Illusive Man and have some arena-based battleground fight just like as was done with Kai Leng. All the while Shepard, Harbinger, and Illusive Man have a 3-way banter going on over who should be victorious, culminating in one final push from Shepard to gun down his ultimate nemesis, meanwhile in reality the Allied Forces see Harbinger's shield's go down just like what happened with Sovereign and then a montage scene of ALL the forces you gathered combining infantry, artillary, and air power to take down the galaxy's first reaper.
Shit would have been so goddamned cash and secured in every gamers mind that Bioware makes awesome stories in addition to games. Instead Casey Hudson wanted to be all Stanley Kubrick and deny us a worthy climax.
I swear to god it's like that Blink 182 song: "We started making out, and she took off my pants, and then I turn on the TV. And that's about the time she walked away from me..."
I really hope this DLC doesn't just widen the hole ME3's ending left inside.
The endings were a pile of crap. I don't care how much you explain to me, what an awsome pile of crap it was, what's it made of, the name of the dude how droped it, or where it went after i threw it out, it's still a pile of crap.
So whatever. Part of me hopes it really, REALLY blows and back lash is HUGE. Hurt there bottom line some more. Send a message that craping on there fan base has conquances. *shrug*
So whatever. Part of me hopes it really, REALLY blows and back lash is HUGE. Hurt there bottom line some more. Send a message that craping on there fan base has conquances. *shrug*
This whole thing continues to baffle me. Bioware should've just stuck by its team and the creative decisions it took, as opposed to giving in to the completely insane reaction by the gaming public. Whoever was disappointed by the first ending will surely be disappointed by this "extended version" as well, and all the developer will accomplish is to prove that they care more about consumer pressure than about artistic integrity.
Ah yes "artistic integrity" the thing that bioware apparently still has despite the day one dlc, shamelessly milking marketing, there being confirmed cut content, and horrible PR, and evidence that suggests that casey hudson released the ending eithout checking it sith the writing team, we have dismissed that claim.AC Medina said:
On a side note, does that mean that the makers of Fallout 3 have no artistic integrity for making Broken Steel
All those things you mention are just issues (or, in several cases, outright problems) that are prevalent in the entire gaming business right now, but have little to do with storytelling. My point was that Bioware's response should've just been "This is the way we decided to end the Mass Effect story. While we understand that, to many, it was controversial and/or disappointing, we stand by our team and believe in what they put forth." You do that, you let the chips fall where they may, and you retain a little self-respect -- maybe even earn some respect from those of us who liked the ending.erttheking said:
The way they've gone about it, they just come off as little boys trying to impress some fickle teenage girl who can never really be pleased.
Great... now I have to avoid the internet from the 26th to the 4th. I mean for the vanilla ending I had to stop playing for a week as I had to go on a trip away from my computer so heard the internet whining about the ending before I got to it. Heck even the BBC had the moaning. even though most of the moaning didn't have spoilers I can say it did affect my perception of the ending.
then nothing would have been gained...even if they said it in those words people probably would have continued to denounce Bioware and say it was likley EA's faultAC Medina said:
this (we will soon find out) was at least something,
and don;t get me started on artistic integrity
For people who already Played untill the end the "final save" is right before the Cerberus Base attack. So no need to find the correct save game.