The customer is usually wrong. The 2 women got what was coming to them, he did also get was coming. A metal rod really? Why the hell was that there for a person to take at any given moment? Was the metal rod designed for hitting dumb people?
McDonald's incident
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He was a minor at the time. It's considered horrific to punish people under 18 for some reason. Also, when you turn 18, your criminal record vanishes. 'Clean slate' or whatever. Personally, I think that's fucked up, but hey.TimeLord said:
Anyway, I don't think the guy overrated that much. I mean, one of the customers hit him, and THEN both of them came behind the counter and surrounded him from both sides. Fuck, he was defending himself.
wanna know what i said hahahhahahahahahahahahahhahah
i hope those 2 kids died[or crippled] and the guy got away scot free. people think they can talk down to people because there working fast food i thought it was funny.
when i worked in a Fast food restaurant we got a bunch of shit eaters saying the C*** word every 5 secs swearing and everything. so i hope those guys can role around in a wheelchair for the rest of there lives.
he should have shoved there heads into the deep fryer
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Dont Poke the bear, if you rekon you can get away with insults and assault then your goin get hurt
i hope those 2 kids died[or crippled] and the guy got away scot free. people think they can talk down to people because there working fast food i thought it was funny.
when i worked in a Fast food restaurant we got a bunch of shit eaters saying the C*** word every 5 secs swearing and everything. so i hope those guys can role around in a wheelchair for the rest of there lives.
he should have shoved there heads into the deep fryer
posted on a early thread
Dont Poke the bear, if you rekon you can get away with insults and assault then your goin get hurt
It's the attitude of internet tough guys. That's all there is to say, really. This wasn't a matter of life or death, so force in this amount was not justifiedDags90 said:
Both are in the wrong. It was pretty sadistic of the person to keep hitting the person even though it was damn obvious that they were no longer a threat. However, it was very rude and foolish of the customer to step over and start damaging the property. Good on that blonde chick screaming stop.
Thanks for the wonderful clip you shared @Torrasque
Some point of view is missing here, I think.
First: The blonde women, screaming "Stop it, stop it, stop it" like a crazy hysterical lunatic on Acid, makes the whole thing even worse. She is aggravating the situation. If you are in a blood frenzy rage you are defintely not calming down if someone is shouting at you in that way.
If you ever get into such a situation remember: "CALM and SOOTHING voice!" Like Morgan Freeman or Kevin Spacey.
Second: The bystanders are responsible for aggravating this as well. How many people you need to overwhelm that metal rod-swinging "Hamburger-Turning-Assistant-Engineer" Three? Two? Would half the a McDonnalds crew be enough? Well it seems not, they stand there, mesmerized by the beserking rage of their colleague.
Third: The most morally corrupt are those who filmed the whole incident. Those should get their very own private encounter with that rod. But that is just my opinion.
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Man, do I love BurgerKing. Strangely everbody likes me there, I even get 10% discount even from the serial killer raping ponies and eating babies for breakfast.
Some point of view is missing here, I think.
First: The blonde women, screaming "Stop it, stop it, stop it" like a crazy hysterical lunatic on Acid, makes the whole thing even worse. She is aggravating the situation. If you are in a blood frenzy rage you are defintely not calming down if someone is shouting at you in that way.
If you ever get into such a situation remember: "CALM and SOOTHING voice!" Like Morgan Freeman or Kevin Spacey.
Second: The bystanders are responsible for aggravating this as well. How many people you need to overwhelm that metal rod-swinging "Hamburger-Turning-Assistant-Engineer" Three? Two? Would half the a McDonnalds crew be enough? Well it seems not, they stand there, mesmerized by the beserking rage of their colleague.
Third: The most morally corrupt are those who filmed the whole incident. Those should get their very own private encounter with that rod. But that is just my opinion.
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Man, do I love BurgerKing. Strangely everbody likes me there, I even get 10% discount even from the serial killer raping ponies and eating babies for breakfast.
No, that wasn't what happened at all.Capitano Segnaposto said:
The cashier believed they had a counterfeit bill, and was refusing them service, which was probably when the video started recording, and they were freaking out at him to probably take the bill cuz they didn't have anything else, or were trying to intimidate him into taking the counterfeit bill. The customers then slapped him, and having enough abuse, the cashier retreated to the back to grab the metal rod. The customers, continuing their attack, followed the man (maybe with the intent to beat him down or shout at him more? who knows) to the back and then he beat the ever-loving shit out of them.
TDW might have a follow-up story about this, but I wouldn't keep my hopes up. I just wanna see how black and blue he made those bitches.
Also, you can say "they had a counterfeit bill", it is more simple than "legal tender bill" which just sounds awkward.
And yes, he would be a cashier.
English as a second language? Just curious.
Yeah, that was pretty damn excessive. Needs to go to jail, I'm on board with smacking obnoxious people with blunt objects but only once or twice. I'm sure someone's in the hospital for awhile because of that, although culprit will be in prison for much longer.
I'd like to point out that, while a Mcdonald's and therefore nobody expecting much of it, that was probably one of the trashiest little group of people I've ever seen. Like I said, some people deserve to get beaten with blunt metal objects and the lady who kept saying "You're a pussy! Yeah you hear me!" needs a good backhand.
I'd like to point out that, while a Mcdonald's and therefore nobody expecting much of it, that was probably one of the trashiest little group of people I've ever seen. Like I said, some people deserve to get beaten with blunt metal objects and the lady who kept saying "You're a pussy! Yeah you hear me!" needs a good backhand.
As to your first point about his having a job, I imagine it was one of those things where McDonalds tries to get PR by saying "We hire anyone! We trust people to not be horrible cereal murderers, and give them jobs so they can get back on their feet!", kind of like some businesses hiring X amount of non-white people, or Y amount of disabled people.Caramel Frappe said:
Second, you might want to watch Diary of the Dead, it is an interesting zombie movie with a theme about how being behind a camera changes a person. Really fascinating stuff.
I said this in the other thread on the issue...
.. the moment someone takes that effort to cross the counter rather than just spouting profanities, all bets are off.
You have to assume they are going to cause serious harm to you and, more importantly, your coworkers and ensure they are no longer a threat.
If they can get up, they are a threat.
.. the moment someone takes that effort to cross the counter rather than just spouting profanities, all bets are off.
You have to assume they are going to cause serious harm to you and, more importantly, your coworkers and ensure they are no longer a threat.
If they can get up, they are a threat.
I imagine the lady was caught up in the heat of the moment and was reacting as she saw fit. It is very hard to be calm and asserting in violent situations.SidingWithTheEnemy said:
If they ALL got him to stop at the same time, yeah it would have been nothing. But who would step up and stop a metal-rod wielding crazy guy? I like to think that I would try and stop him, but it seems likely that I would be so shocked by what was happening, and afraid that he is about to turn on me as well. Hard to say
Like I said to Caramel Frappe, being behind a camera changes people. They were probably going "HOLY SHIT WHAT THE FUCK?!?!" like the rest of the people that weren't doing anything.
If you can't handle the outcome, don't try to assault somebody.
I have had something similar happen to me once. Crazy f*cker jumped over the counter to rob the store I work in, starts going at me. And as a result of me defending myself, he somehow broke his back in the resulting fight, and I ended up with the upper hand.
(shit happens, but to this day, I'm not sorry about it)
And you know what? The judge that handled the case was fine with it. In the case of self defense, unless you actually kill someone, there is no such thing as to much of a beating for the one starting it.
TL-DR: Go Mc Donalds guy.
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I have had something similar happen to me once. Crazy f*cker jumped over the counter to rob the store I work in, starts going at me. And as a result of me defending myself, he somehow broke his back in the resulting fight, and I ended up with the upper hand.
(shit happens, but to this day, I'm not sorry about it)
And you know what? The judge that handled the case was fine with it. In the case of self defense, unless you actually kill someone, there is no such thing as to much of a beating for the one starting it.
TL-DR: Go Mc Donalds guy.
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They had no idea he'd been arrested for murder before, but still... Using a $50 bill for some freaking fries is a bit suspicious and the guy was smart to not take the money without asking. Jumping into the employee area of any business is a bad idea because they don't know what you may do once back there and it leaves them vulnerable.
TL : DR - Yeah, the guy went a bit far with the rod, but the women should have paid with smaller bills rather than fighting in the first place.
TL : DR - Yeah, the guy went a bit far with the rod, but the women should have paid with smaller bills rather than fighting in the first place.
Meh, I kind of feel sorry for the guy.
Working in retail is hard, shit wages, shit people, shit working conditions. Some times you don't have a choice, perhaps you mess up your entire life with one stupid mistake? Then you are stuck in a crappy life. In this guy's case it sounds like he was already slightly over the edge and that he didn't need much to set him off.
Those girls did deserve to be punished, they bit off more than they could chew, thinking that they had free reign to ruin some one else's day over such a petty incident. They set out to mess this guy's shit up. So no, I have no sympathy for them what so ever. People like that need a good beat down if that's what they are setting out to do.
Would I do it? Hell no.
Also "metal rod" is a pretty poor description. It doesn't look that thick in the video and the sound it makes on impact gives no impression of weight, the fact the girl doesn't get up again is probably not because she's incapacitated but because she is trying to protect her face. I only mention this because a lot of the comments have been "Omg! A mettle rod!" as if he had Gordon Freeman's crowbar.
All in all we don't have enough detail.
Working in retail is hard, shit wages, shit people, shit working conditions. Some times you don't have a choice, perhaps you mess up your entire life with one stupid mistake? Then you are stuck in a crappy life. In this guy's case it sounds like he was already slightly over the edge and that he didn't need much to set him off.
Those girls did deserve to be punished, they bit off more than they could chew, thinking that they had free reign to ruin some one else's day over such a petty incident. They set out to mess this guy's shit up. So no, I have no sympathy for them what so ever. People like that need a good beat down if that's what they are setting out to do.
Would I do it? Hell no.
Also "metal rod" is a pretty poor description. It doesn't look that thick in the video and the sound it makes on impact gives no impression of weight, the fact the girl doesn't get up again is probably not because she's incapacitated but because she is trying to protect her face. I only mention this because a lot of the comments have been "Omg! A mettle rod!" as if he had Gordon Freeman's crowbar.
All in all we don't have enough detail.