My thought's exactly. You sir / madam, just earned a bunch of common-sense-Internet-pointsCraorach said:
McDonald's incident
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They are not equivalent.Kopikatsu said:
"An eye for an eye" speaks of retribution, while "Treat others as you wish to be treated" is more about your actions towards others.
"An eye for an eye" is a reaction you take in regards to someone else's action towards you or someone close to you. "Treat others as you wish to be treated" is an action you take towards others in the hope that they treat you as you have treated them.
I am sorry if that sounded like a grade 2 teacher explaining what 2+2 is, but I wanted to make sure I solved your misconception.
Frankly I think the bitches deserved getting twatted with the metal rod but for the sake of the guy behind the counter he probably should of stopped after the first few blows so that it looked more like self defence and less like assault. Although I think the self-defence plea would of been lost the second the metal rod got picked up.
It still seems rather similar. If you don't want to get the shit beat out of you, don't try to beat the shit out of someone else. (Unless you think the two women hopped the counter and surrounded him because they wanted to discuss it in a calm and reasonable manner?)Torrasque said:
The video shows a metal rod that could be the size of a slightly thick cord, or pinky. It bends rather quick on impact, which shows that it is not thick at all.Brinnmilo said:
I agree though, saying "metal bar" gives me a mental image of a thick metal pipe you'd find on a construction site, probably made of lead and covered with rust.
Both sides overreacted and neither side is completely right or wrong. It's odd seeing people say "bitches deserved it" or something like "put him away for life". Real life isn't black and white like tv shows and comic books, it's usually all grey and it's weird to see people completely agree with either side in this incident.
Okay. Having been a manager at a fast food restaurant...
1) The guy should have called higher powers when the fight first started.
2) He definitely should have removed himself from the situation when the girl smacked him.
3) Hopping over the counter like that is grounds for the police to be called.
That said...What the Fuck was going on in those womens' heads? How full of yourself do you have to be to...I don't even.
1) The guy should have called higher powers when the fight first started.
2) He definitely should have removed himself from the situation when the girl smacked him.
3) Hopping over the counter like that is grounds for the police to be called.
That said...What the Fuck was going on in those womens' heads? How full of yourself do you have to be to...I don't even.
Let me put it this way:Kopikatsu said:
"An eye for an eye" can be extended into: If you do this to me, I will do the same to you, or something of the same degree.
"Treat others as you wish to be treated" can be extended into: I will treat you like this, because I expect you to treat me the same way.
Hope that clarifies more. They are similar only in the regard that one is referring to another, and there is a reference to equivalent treatment, but like I said before, one is something you do in response to an action, and the other is an action you take in the hope of achieving a certain response.
And no, of course the two women were not calm and reasonable at all.
The cashier reacted more reasonable than the two women, and I think he went completely overboard.
''que impending Burger King/KFC/Wimpy fans with a superiority complex stating how every mcdonalds is like that'' *preps flameshield*
I do see your point. Still it strikes me that almost everyone else was mesmerized while she was behaving the completely wrong way.Torrasque said:
You are right, people freeze and do stupid things in such situations. But I just wanted to point out how it "should" have worked and why everyone there should feel guilty. (to a degree at least)Torrasque said:
An alpha would probably rallied two or three persons and then each of them grab one limb of Mr. Metal Rod batshitcrazy Beatdown guy and the whole incident would have been over much much smoother
Again I agree but if our society wants to survive for another century we need change that quickly. VERY quickly. Yet since I don't think we better not survive that century I don't want to impose this change on anyone.Torrasque said:
And yes, I personally do hate rubbernecks (especially filming ones). Especially those deserve to be hit with a metal shiny thingy by some crazy serialkillerclown Saints-Row-style. The others not so much...
I love most zombie movies, but there are the weird "infection" type movies that pass themselves off as zombie movies, or fast zombies, etc.Caramel Frappe said:
Like any genre, there is good and bad. At least bad zombie movies can be silly which lessens the badness.
I agree. Ideally they would hire people who would be good workers, and of course be mentally stable. But they can't always do that, have PR to worry about, and all the other random little things that go into hiring a person to flip burgers and handle money...
As for making people unfit for society, into contributing members of society... it would be easier to make a skyscraper out of marshmallows, than figure out a method to make murdering psychopaths into normal people.
What? I think you misread something.Sandor [The Hound said:
The guy cashier, the guy with the metal rod (of questionable thickness /wink @Brinnmilo ) is the guy who served time in prison for killing a class mate. I don't know how much time he served, or when the time was served, I am just concerned about the issue at hand. You can do more research into that if you so desire.
And as I said earlier, the US justice system is silly and I won't even touch the subject.
Not saying what your saying isn't true, but I feel that's part of whats wrong with the country. We're told to puss out, submit, that society tells us were not allowed to fight for ourselves we have to have someone else do the fighting.BabyRaptor said:
I don't condone the guy using the pipe. His life wasnt in danger, he was pissed he got slapped. I could understand an equal force retaliation, but this was anything but.
This is more of a lesson for everyone, be careful who you piss off because you don't know what they're capable of.
See, that's more what I was thinking. Management is trained to diffuse situations like that, whereas I doubt he was. One of those ladies could have pulled a gun, for all the knew, and then what would we be saying?SaneAmongInsane said:
All water under the bridge, it happened how it happened, but...Eh.
lol, its like in movies (yes, bad example, I know) when something crazy happens, you usually hear one or more women shrieking at the top of their lungs. Why? Because she enjoys it I guess. It creates a panic effect in movies, but that certainly happens in real life. You get people reacting certain ways for no other reason than because they are inclined to.SidingWithTheEnemy said:
If the manager was present, I imagine he would have stepped up to the plate, rallied his troops, and stopped the event from going crazy. But I don't know if the manager is even present, or if the manager is the kind of manager that managers should be (stronger leadership, gives commands, etc.). IDEALLY, someone would have stepped up and stopped it. But they didn't, so /shrug.
lololol, there are hundreds of things humanity has to fix in order to survive the next 50 years nevermind the next 100 years. It is the main reason I am such a bitter cynic these days.
I have to say they are both at fault in this. He was right to question the bill and by law anyone who is in a cashier position is trained to check anything over a $20 for authenticity. Getting hit by the woman was one thing, he did the right thing and walked away there. But she hopped the counter and chased him into the back. He hit her with the metal rod until she was down. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt until he got her on the ground, if someone chases me to a place they aren't supposed to I would have done the same assuming they had a weapon. Hitting the woman repeatedly after she was down was where I draw the line, that goes from self-defense to assault with a deadly weapon.