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Dr. Crawver

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Radoh said:
Torrasque said:
Radoh said:
They deserved to be beaten with a metal rod? That's too much for me to believe they deserved it. Honestly, that's a whole lot of violence to have "deserved it" in my book.
Then again, almost any amount of violence is too much for me so...
lol, this is even more appropriate given your Fluttershy avatar xD
Are you trying to say that Fluttershy wouldn't, as they say, "smack a hoe"?
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Luke5515 said:
Those two ladies deserved it....
Until he started swinging while they were on the ground. Defending yourself is one thing, but he got slapped, he didn't need to be that violent, especially while they were already down.
not really, they could be trying to get back up or what if one had a knife? making sure they stay down AND learn their lesson is first priority

and managers in retail and food? THEY DO NOT CARE!!! theyre like teachers when it comes to bullying
 

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Just to make it more hilarious, did he ask them if they want fries with that beating?
 

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Sonicron said:
Funny how stuff like that doesn't happen here. Makes you think there's something in the water over there. -.-
Nope. You guys just start riots and fight with police at soccer games. That's soooooo much better.

OT: It stopped being self defense when he hit them while they were down. The women need an assault charge, but they definitely didn't deserve that beating.
 

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I agree with the general consensus but...
One thing that we need to take into consideration is the fact that we couldn't see what was going on on the other side. For all we know, the woman could have been getting up to try and attack him again or something and he felt endangered...

This video seems oddly fitting :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnV8NjE7HZA
 

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Welcome to the hood...not even surprised lol

Was a bit over kill...when they went down OK stop..not..look at them and keep whoopin ass
 

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I work in place like this (not mcdonald's, but a pizza place) and i know for sure that difficult customers are a real pain in the ass. If a mad costumer slapped me in the face, i would definatley back off to see if they would go further. If they'd go further (like these ones did) i would try to knock them out and call security. That's self-defence!
 

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SmashLovesTitanQuest said:
Both sides seem retarded and they both need a little probation and anger management.

Which is why its funny to see people taking sides on this. Sorry guys, but beating someone with a metal rod 10 times while they lay on the floor and cower before you isnt exactly behavior that should be encouraged.
I like to think I am not taking any sides, but I am leaning towards the "bitches behaving like bitches deserved to be *****-slapped" group.
Either side is not completely blameless of course, that much is certain.

Also, it is interesting to post stuff like this and see how people react.
 

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Well, he's clearly mentally unstable. But they deserved 1 hit each though.

Also, I think his last name is funny. McIntosh... heh...
 

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Ralphfromdk said:
Craorach said:
I said this in the other thread on the issue...

.. the moment someone takes that effort to cross the counter rather than just spouting profanities, all bets are off.

You have to assume they are going to cause serious harm to you and, more importantly, your coworkers and ensure they are no longer a threat.

If they can get up, they are a threat.
My thought's exactly. You sir / madam, just earned a bunch of common-sense-Internet-points
I agree with this mostly. I don't think the ability to stand up on one's own is indicative of being able to fight still. This guy was in the right... and then the video continued another 15-30 seconds beyond the point where they were no longer a threat. He even paused, perhaps to let them get up, if they'd needed that much time to get up, even if they were able to stand they were no longer in any condition to say try and throw another punch.

The only thing I would have changed about the outcome of the sentences (as I think both were in the wrong) is I probably would have allowed some of the guy's sentence to be exchanged for anger management as this did start as an act of self-defense and I think it would be more beneficial to him and the community at large then paying tons of money to keep him locked up longer.
 

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Torrasque said:
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Fully justified. He shouldn't have been charged with anything. Those two fucking cunts should have gotten some jail time, though.
If you're gonna jump over the counter or go behind the counter in any way, you FUCKING deserve what's coming to you. That something just so happened to be a metal rod.

Now those cunts are gonna remember not to fuck with people who have terrible McJobs.
So you don't think beating two people (agressors, of course, there is no debate about that) with a metal bar, and continuing to beat them while they are down, is ok?
=|
When it comes to this hell yea, they had it coming. You don't do shit like that when people are serving you. They're lucky they didn't stomped by the whole working crew because all of them have the right to whoop your ass the moment you go behind the counter.
 

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just general metal rod bashing was too far. The guy should have tried to block, maybe throw a punch or two back, but there were two other cashiers there as well who should have restrained the women. A metal bar...that's not the logical choice I'd run to.

Seems like everyone is getting the punishment they deserve. I almost feel sorry for the guy though, he may have been trying to get his life back on track, get a job, and then two arses do that, and the guy snaps in self-defense. You can't even blame him too much, it's just his reaction was too strong. Back to anger management classes I guess
 

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wait: this guy killed someone already, and he's out of jail? rediculous. yes, the women assaulted him first, but this goes way beyond self defense.
 

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Jingle Fett said:
I agree with the general consensus but...
One thing that we need to take into consideration is the fact that we couldn't see what was going on on the other side. For all we know, the woman could have been getting up to try and attack him again or something and he felt endangered...

This video seems oddly fitting :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnV8NjE7HZA
lol, fucking win.
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Bacaruda said:
Well, he's clearly mentally unstable. But they deserved 1 hit each though.

Also, I think his last name is funny. McIntosh... heh...
I guess you could say...
Those women bit off more than they could chew.
YEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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SmashLovesTitanQuest said:
Torrasque said:
SmashLovesTitanQuest said:
Both sides seem retarded and they both need a little probation and anger management.

Which is why its funny to see people taking sides on this. Sorry guys, but beating someone with a metal rod 10 times while they lay on the floor and cower before you isnt exactly behavior that should be encouraged.
I like to think I am not taking any sides, but I am leaning towards the "bitches behaving like bitches deserved to be *****-slapped" group.
Either side is not completely blameless of course, that much is certain.

Also, it is interesting to post stuff like this and see how people react.
Sucker punch the *****, watch her collapse on the floor and get you a large coke and fries while you wait for the cops.

If one of them had been fat, I could have made a joke about distracting them by throwing Big Macs into various corners of the room here, but unfortunately none of them are.

(Sorry, im in full dark douchebag bad humor mode today, if you hadnt noticed. I apologize.)
lol, no problem dude. We've all been there before.
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docSpitfire said:
I agree with this mostly. I don't think the ability to stand up on one's own is indicative of being able to fight still. This guy was in the right... and then the video continued another 15-30 seconds beyond the point where they were no longer a threat. He even paused, perhaps to let them get up, if they'd needed that much time to get up, even if they were able to stand they were no longer in any condition to say try and throw another punch.

The only thing I would have changed about the outcome of the sentences (as I think both were in the wrong) is I probably would have allowed some of the guy's sentence to be exchanged for anger management as this did start as an act of self-defense and I think it would be more beneficial to him and the community at large then paying tons of money to keep him locked up longer.
Unfortunately we have no idea what happened below the counter. We also cannot clearly hear anything he is saying or they are saying.

We can assume they were laying there helpless, or we can assume they were lashing out and trying to get up to carry on the fight.

Either way, what we do know is they first insulted, then assaulted, a person just trying to do their job. They jumped the counter in order to continue the assault and attempted to attack someone who was walking away.
 

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So because someone argues with me and slaps me the majority thinks I am in the right to knock them to the ground with a metal bar? Everyone deserves the sentence they received, it seems.
 

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SeanTheOriginal said:
Fully justified. He shouldn't have been charged with anything. Those two fucking cunts should have gotten some jail time, though.
If you're gonna jump over the counter or go behind the counter in any way, you FUCKING deserve what's coming to you. That something just so happened to be a metal rod.

Now those cunts are gonna remember not to fuck with people who have terrible McJobs.
"I just got assaulted by two customers. Rather then talk to my manager or call the cops, I'm going to severely beat this woman with a metal rod and possibly get thrown in jail for attempted murder in the 1st degree, because that seems like the logical thing to do right now."

Justified my ass. He was getting paid and everybody knows what they're getting into when they get a job in that industry. If you're not prepared to take shit from people, you shouldn't be in the fast food industry. By now its too late for hindsight and now two woman are mentally scarred for life and a man is in jail because everyone was being an goddamn idiot, but Mr. Mcintosh is probably the biggest idiot in that video simply because he was in the position to walk away and he chose not to. Now he's going to jail and he is facing a very serious felony charge, and you know what, I hope they convict his ass, because I don't want a man who thinks the best way out of a situation is to beat someone with a metal rod walking on the streets.