Microsoft Addresses Xbox One Concerns

[theultimateend]

And just like that, I'm not buying the Xbone.

I was burned once with this Spore-like DRM with, well, Spore. No way in hell am I paying $300-$500 or whatever the price of this console will be for the same thing, but fucking worse.

SPORE was my Richard Nixon moment.

Ruined my star crossed infatuation with games.

Now I'm just a grumpy mistrusting husk of a man.

 

[Anti-Robot Man]

Are there statistics on this? Is "everyone" on broadband now? I live in the UK, and there are still places where you can't get a mobile phone signal, let alone ADSL. I'm assuming that the continental US has enormous areas where broadband is not an option.

Exactly, the UK is one of the 8 richest countries on the planet, is relatively compact and densely populated and yet we still have spotty broadband coverage, and even in areas where broadband is available it can be poor/intermittent. Microsoft is cutting out whole swathes of the market right from the outset, internationally this thing is going to go down like a lead balloon.

I think Watchdog is going to have a field day with this thing.

 

[faefrost]

We designed Xbox One so game publishers can enable you to trade in your games at participating retailers.

Shouldn't this be the other way around? The way it's phrased here makes it sound like giving publishers the option to allow us to trade in games is some new, useful, innovative feature, which it's not. When it should say is that publishers have the option of NOT allowing us to trade in games. Microsoft obviously phrased it like this to make the news sound better than it really is.

As a whole, it's not as bad as some of the stuff that Microsoft told us at first, but even so, there's no way I'm supporting any console that has the innovative new feature of not letting me do whatever I want (so long as it's legal) with any game that I legally own.

What this is is MS trying to pass the blame for when we finally realize that no, you really can't sell trade or give away your old games. They are trying to blame it on the Publishers. Because they have "The Option". Uh Huh. Apparently they could find no viable way to blame Bush or something.

 

[Vie]

I was rather expecting this announcement to consist of whichever shill they chose blowing a raspberry at us.

Turns out that would have been more pleasant.

 

[luckshot]

i just thought of something else. The armed forces, often times they do not have internet for long periods of time for various reasons, this would make the console completely useless to them removing one of the easiest comforts to give them (consoles and tvs are fairly easy to transport/find)

im surprised i haven't seen this mentioned yet

 

[Triality]

Right that settles it. I'm going to buy a PS4 and a Nintendo 3DS. At least 2 outfits haven't completely screwed up this generation.

 

[Xanex]

Well looks like the next gen for me is PS4. Unless they go they way the Xbone then it will be PC only for me.

And I DO NOT have my 360 connected to the internet all the time. So the you are wrong Nelson.

 

[Harker067]

Well the exclusives lineup had better be chocolate covered orgasms...

 

[Yan007]

This is extremely arrogant coming from MS. Like another poster above, I currently live in China. Although I do have broadband, many things can go wrong: MS could block my IP range because "Lol CHINA!", China could block or stop my connection to MS. Buying games online through the console will be an hassle as they prob will not allow me to buy my games using my Canadian CC while using a Chinese IP and so on...

Can't rent games? Can't do anything I want with the physical copies? Go to hell.

I'm not touching that turd. I'm glad I brought back the best gaming computer I could to China when I came back here from my last vacation.

The only thing Sony has to do to win is to make the PS4 a more powerful PS3 and keep the same features. LOL!

 

[LordLundar]

Which is it Microsoft, stupid or liar?

I think both is the likely situation here.

 

[Ishigami]

Some things were clarified when it comes to licensing games [http://news.xbox.com/2013/06/license], which, I guess, is how we refer to buying games now.

To be fair here that has always been the case for any kind of software including video games. I agree that this is a stupid an unnecessary complicated point of view on an end consumer level.
But then again we, the damn stupid consumers, let them get away with it. We actually would have to change some laws to stop that kind of bullshit but then again that would mean some disorganized consumers go up against the media lobby. Or in other words 0 financial support vs. millions of dollars... pretty easy to figure out why it is the way it is.

That said I can actually live with that. I would have to connect my Steam every time I want to install a game or even before I can switch to offline mode.
Yea every day is even more draconian but then again my PC and consoles are actually online every damn second they are on. I just needed some way to cover the time when I can't connect for whatever reason that might be.
My personal experience is that if I have a problem with my ISP than it is usually just for a few hours. That said I usually don't have problems. So connecting every 24 hours should be any problem for me at all.
I do not buy used games nor sell my games so I don't care about that.

So I'm still very much neutral on everything. Show me some games MS and then we talk.

 

[abdul]

Heh,I see Jim welcomes these news also:
Jim Sterling @JimSterling

My dilemma about what to cover on Monday's Jimquisition is solved. Screw E3 predictions, let's have another week shitting on Microsoft.

 

[Mr Fixit]

I love my 360, i really do & in all honesty I could live with everything that they are doing with the Xbone, but... I refuse to because of this stupid shit, fuck'em. I always new Microsoft could & would do stupid shit & they have never failed to live up to that fact. Screwing so many potential customers out of what could be a very impressive piece of hardware is just so idiotic, I know so many loyal Xbox fans that will go for a PS4 now, myself included.

 

[SageRuffin]

-__-

Wow Microsoft... you really fucked up with this one.

There are no other words. Simply, "you fucked up." Looks like I've got some upgrading to do on my PC, and this more than cements my decision to invest in the U. Hell, even the PS4 is looking kinda enticing right now.

Again Microsoft... you fucked up.

 

[userwhoquitthesite]

so, Microsoft has confirmed: 8-Bit_Jack will not be purchasing an Xbone

 

[MercurySteam]

Well damnit, I was afraid of this. At least at this point they can't screw up the 360 to this degree (if they do then so help me God, I will throw my Xbox off a cliff). I liked my 360 because I could take it away with me me and could play my games with out a connection as I could never be bothered to get fully into portable gaming or buy a laptop.

I'm drafting up my next custom PC build for this gen. If anyone needs help then feel free to ask. I can imagine plenty of people making a permanent shift to PC gaming after all this.

 

[Kmadden2004]

And now, ladies and gentlemen, we observe what happens when you try to use gasoline to extinguish a chip-pan fire...

 

[Weaver]

AC10 confirms that he will not be buying an Xbox One console.

 

[Redlin5_v1legacy]

Hey Sony? You're looking a lot more attractive now. Don't do anything stupid and you might get a bigger share of the market.

Hey Nintendo? For the love of god, get some games!

[sub][sub]Yup, skipping this gen. Never going to buy an Xbox ever now. My internet is terribly unreliable and when I move in a few months I may have to do without it entirely.[/sub][/sub]

 

[hentropy]

The only reason why games were the way they were since the inception, you own the cartridge for ever and ever with no strings attached, was because there was no way to do it. Ubiquitous Internet is still a fairly new thing, even if most people had it through the last two console generations in the US, so such schemes were more or less impossible.

But they've been doing this with software for a very long time... anyone who's ever bough business software knows you're not paying for the plastic disc, that's silly, you're paying for the license, and you have to have some kind of activation scheme (in the 90s it was usually by phones, and businesses paid for bulk keys). Games on PCs have always come with some sort of key you had to enter. The difference is now that damn near everyone has Internet, so they can do this "phone home" thing to cut down on piracy... but there's bound to be serious problems with it, as there normally is whenever anyone does the "always on" or "phone home once a day" thing.

Ultimately though you are buying software, and games are just using the standards that other forms of software have always been using. So what's the moral of the story? Just buy a fraking PC. Or even a Mac, I hear those can play a few games now as well.