Microsoft Denies Core Gamers Hated Kinect
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Being honest as a hardcore gamer I view gaming as a quiet,fairly motionless experience.I don't like shouting unless I'm actually communicating with people(mmos) and I don't like moving much.Which is why it doesn't appeal to me as a gamer.As a partygoer tho I think it's cool I'd deffinately try it.And it's probably a lot less painful than trying the same stuff on a drunk head(for an example boxing...).
I'm a 14 year old boy and i have kinect, I LOVE KINECTIMALS! and i look foreward to ME3 voice commands and Kinect disneyland, as i cant go to america disneyland for real, hears hoping for a 3 hour queue simulator
It seems to me someone who would go buy kinect on launch is the kinda person who puts on Facebook their newborn kitten had her first poop.
Rational well-adjusted people don't go fill Microsoft's inbox with hate messages when they do something that isn't forced upon it's customers to buy or even participate in. So when you only hear from the %10-%30 of the aforementioned Facebook people it's easy to assume that everyone loves it.
I played kinect at my neighbors house and yea while it was fun it was that type of fun that's only going to last for a week at most. I didn't have any stake in it so it was easy to see that. My neighbor still preaches that it's the next best thing to toilet paper or sex despite the fact there's a cobweb now hanging off it.
I went through the same thing for L.A Noire it such an amazing game I'm so glad i spent money on it...what? It's been 3 weeks since I last played it? Oh well, (insert excuse here).
Rational well-adjusted people don't go fill Microsoft's inbox with hate messages when they do something that isn't forced upon it's customers to buy or even participate in. So when you only hear from the %10-%30 of the aforementioned Facebook people it's easy to assume that everyone loves it.
I played kinect at my neighbors house and yea while it was fun it was that type of fun that's only going to last for a week at most. I didn't have any stake in it so it was easy to see that. My neighbor still preaches that it's the next best thing to toilet paper or sex despite the fact there's a cobweb now hanging off it.
I went through the same thing for L.A Noire it such an amazing game I'm so glad i spent money on it...what? It's been 3 weeks since I last played it? Oh well, (insert excuse here).
Fanboys and extreme bro gamers that dislike things like DDR and such don't represent real life gamers.
These statements are a bit of a fallacy though. What's a core gamer? Someone who plays everyday? Someone who owns all the systems? Personally I don't consider the person who plays just-one-game a hard core gamer. People who only play Call of Duty, or just FPSes, or only RPGs and MMOs like WoW. But that's just my interpretation.
And in that group you have some people who might play Dance Central everyday and consider the Kinect hard core. They may have been aiming at the same "casual" market Wii went for with motion controls but there's lots of people who slide in and out of that category. My boss PC games but he got a Wii for his kids. He'd buy Kinect but doesn't see a need to now. My other work colleague plays Halo games and basically the Lego games. Occassionally trying something different (if I sell him on it). But he only plays once a week, if that. He got a Kinect because he got a good deal.
Also there are only so many first party and second-party exclusive Xbox games, and most of those are "hard core" games, and their Kinect games are casual. But the third party games for Kinect are always casual. So it's not just Microsoft who thinks Kinect = Casual.
To me the Kinect fails it's core principal. The idea is that motion controls should be so intuitive that virtually anyone can play a Kinect game without thinking about how to do it. Unlike controller games that are only a little less complicated than driving a car. The lack of responsiveness in Kinect seems to make most experiences with it somewhat baffling and non-intuitive.
And what do you expect a company rep to say about their product? If you were involved with something that was a bit crap and your reputation was tied to it are you going to go around apologising? It doesn't work, ask Brad Pitt about Meet Joe Black.
And in that group you have some people who might play Dance Central everyday and consider the Kinect hard core. They may have been aiming at the same "casual" market Wii went for with motion controls but there's lots of people who slide in and out of that category. My boss PC games but he got a Wii for his kids. He'd buy Kinect but doesn't see a need to now. My other work colleague plays Halo games and basically the Lego games. Occassionally trying something different (if I sell him on it). But he only plays once a week, if that. He got a Kinect because he got a good deal.
Also there are only so many first party and second-party exclusive Xbox games, and most of those are "hard core" games, and their Kinect games are casual. But the third party games for Kinect are always casual. So it's not just Microsoft who thinks Kinect = Casual.
To me the Kinect fails it's core principal. The idea is that motion controls should be so intuitive that virtually anyone can play a Kinect game without thinking about how to do it. Unlike controller games that are only a little less complicated than driving a car. The lack of responsiveness in Kinect seems to make most experiences with it somewhat baffling and non-intuitive.
And what do you expect a company rep to say about their product? If you were involved with something that was a bit crap and your reputation was tied to it are you going to go around apologising? It doesn't work, ask Brad Pitt about Meet Joe Black.
Kinect is nothing more than a gimmick, and gimmicks don't tend to work well with actual games. Don't get me wrong, it's a wonderful piece of technology and for a gimmick, it's really innovative - but that's all. I had no problem with Kinect when it was just used for throwaway titles based purely around it, but I would be quite horrified if I saw it begin to be used for real games.
Needless to say, Microsoft's farce of an E3 presentation came close to bringing me that horror.
Needless to say, Microsoft's farce of an E3 presentation came close to bringing me that horror.
I love being spoken for.
I don't hate the Kinect for existing, but the likely hood of me running out to buy one so i can jump in front of my TV like a moron, is zero. This is probably because the games for it are a cesspool of pretend your playing sports games, and dancing games, mostly. Being primarily an RPG, Strategy and FPS fan, what some might perhaps call "core" gaming genres if they were feeling vague and lazy, I don't think the Kinect has experiences to offer me that I'd enjoy.
But really I didn't need to say any of that, did I? Anyone who thinks that "core" gaming demographics have not avoided motion controls is deluding themselves something awful. As for what people mean by a "Core" gaming demographic, the thought is a bit ambiguous, but i think we all know what they are driving at.
I don't hate the Kinect for existing, but the likely hood of me running out to buy one so i can jump in front of my TV like a moron, is zero. This is probably because the games for it are a cesspool of pretend your playing sports games, and dancing games, mostly. Being primarily an RPG, Strategy and FPS fan, what some might perhaps call "core" gaming genres if they were feeling vague and lazy, I don't think the Kinect has experiences to offer me that I'd enjoy.
But really I didn't need to say any of that, did I? Anyone who thinks that "core" gaming demographics have not avoided motion controls is deluding themselves something awful. As for what people mean by a "Core" gaming demographic, the thought is a bit ambiguous, but i think we all know what they are driving at.
Oh c'mon! How else will I know what it's like to be a paraplegic Jedi who just waits for stormtroopers to trundle their way into my lightsaber?
I have the Kinect, and its a bit of fun for 20mins or so. What I don't want to see happen, is its mandatory use in core games such as Forsa, ME3 etc. Fortunately, I can't sever see that happening, so as far as I'm concerned nobody is missing out if they dislike the Kinect.
Yeah, you'd like to get more than one Kinect going to capture full 3D, but they work by putting out an IR grid and hence, interfere with each other.Zhukov said:
I don't own a Kinect and if I did it would be to write or mess with hacks on the PC, not play any of the titles on the XBox.
I guess it depends on your deffinition of "core gamers". In my eyes there haven't been any core games for the kinect so core gamers don't love or hate it. They just don't care about kinect.
Kinect has a lot of potential, sadly all the development so far has just been remakes of shit I've already played on wii. I might buy one on if I ever see a good original game for it.
