Modern Warfare 3 Ditches Commando Perk

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I was never really a fan of Commando so I'm happy to see it gone.

Still, keep it or get rid of it, there's no way to make everyone happy.
 

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SmashLovesTitanQuest said:
Hehe, I got a good laugh out of that post. You, owning in BF3? Yeah, thats why you use noobtubes and the UMP. Because youre good. Sure. Seriously, remember this and remind me when BF3 is released: I want to play against you. I dont think of myself as "MLG legit" or whatever the fuck wannabe pro gamers call them selfs these days, but something tells me I will give you an asswhooping you will remember for years to come.
This may come as a surprise to you, but kills in Battlefield have a lot more to do with how much you think ahead and a lot less to do with how twitchy you are than in Call of Duty. Every new Battlefield release is full of CoD players unsuccessfully trying to run-and-gun, because they think the two games use the same skill-set. I know this because I was one of those players.

In all my days I havent seen a single decent player who used the GL (thumpers notwithstanding). When you took that away they were all shit. Maybe you think youre a good player because you dont have to aim; anywhere in a 5 meter radius will get you a kill.
No hardscoping. Intervention only. Final destination.

Also, very ironic that you should say that part about people sucking and all. Its almost like its opposite day. Wake up! You are the reason people wish they could play online without all the bullshit! You! With your commando and OMA! If you think people suck, maybe you should stop acting like a dick when playing online, they might become friendlier! Did you ever think of that?!?! Incredible I know!
In my experience the single worst part of the CoD community are the kids who rage when people violate the arbitrary self-enforced rules they just made up. I mean seriously, I literally got hate for double-tapping with the EBR. These kids will rage at anything that kills them that they don't use themselves.

Try it sometime. You know, just leave out the overpowered things and stop exploiting flaws in a game. Suddenly, the hate disappears.
Paper overpowered, says rock. Scissors are fine, though.
 

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thelonewolf266 said:
Thank the lord, now all they need to do is remove last stand final stand and under-slung grenade launchers then it will be sort of balanced.
URGHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!

Phoenix_XIII said:
The big problem people HAVE with this is that people optimized perks and had an effective strategy. That's really a huge issue?

FUCK IT. JUST REMOVE PERKS.

I'm tired of this shit.
OMA-Cold Blooded-Commando
UMP-Silencer
Claymores

Fucking SO much rage I'd induce. Why? Because I had a kit and knew what I was doing.

I find a lot of the stuff I'm reading is just "I don't understand the meta-game! REMOVE STUFF I DON'T KNOW HOW TO DEAL WITH... BECAUSE... BECAUSE!"

Black-Ops really hurt perk optimization, and hit a few other things that went along with them and it was met pretty negatively. Cause it was silly, they made it so you just pick perks based on which one has the nicest looking icon. And Ghost. Everyone use Ghost.
 

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SammiYin said:
Just get rid of knives in general and I'll be a happy man.
I agree with this, that stupid knife drives me crazy.

At least make it a two hit kill, this ridiculous ability for players to get accidental kills by squeezing the analogue stick too hard has to go.
Ha, you'd think. But some people like to have crouch as the analogue stick squeeze and knife as B or O ;)

Yeah, I loose a lot of knife fights. But I love to dive into the ground waaaay too much!
 

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Zac Smith said:
If IW listened to every little complaint about this game, there would be nothing in it at all, every single perk, weapon or tactic you use, someone is going to hate. When I play CoD, there isn't a single tactic an opponent can use that you can't counter in some way. (Except spawn killing)
Technically, until they removed all of the following, you could counter spawn campers with a combination of skillful player advantage, the riot shield, your favorite pistol, flashes, the blast shield, and whatever perks. I always liked Scavenger (Since pistols are hardly effective, as well as down right conservative when it comes to spawning ammo.), Stopping Power (See above. Combine this with Akimbo and Steady Aim and you can go pistolero, with the more accurate pistols (Read: not the desert eagle. That doesn't need either perk, just the attachment, to be effective, really.).), and Ninja (Because if they can't hear me, I can get the drop on them if they're hiding 'round a corner.).

In fact, in my opinion, they need the riot shield back. Normal players could kill the users just fine, it was all of the griefers using the cheap sets that were complaining about it! For the most part, at least. It was the one tactical advantage that claimed victory over everything else that's cheap. Knifers, Glocks Akimbo, Shotguns, Quickscopers, Explosivos (When combined with Blast Shield, of course! Read: doesn't counter those who are hardcore noob enough to use Danger Close.), everything. Even just milder complaints, like overpowered SMGs, and campers, dead and gone.
 

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Monoochrom said:
I stand by my point, it is so simple that a retarded chimpanzee could use it.
That's every weapon in CoD - really, even the snipers. Point the crosshair at the mans and hold down the trigger until they fall down. Or if you're really MLG Legit, point the crosshair at the mans and burst-fire until they fall down.
 

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Aprilgold said:
XHolySmokesX said:
longboardfan said:
I'd like the removal of ALL perks completely. NO classes, no bonuses, nothing. Just accurate weapons that everyone can use.
Go play a game other than CoD Then, you basically just described everything that makes CoD, well CoD.

I'm glad commando has been scrapped, it was bloody unfair that people could teleport from a good 10 or so meters away and knife you in the face.

One perk I do want to see go is stopping power. It's worse than juggernaut in my opinion. If you didn't use stopping power, it was basically like everyone else was using juggernaut, and anyone else that was using it made it really hard for new players to get any good because everyone was killing you in 2 shots. Black ops did good by removing this perk, made the game so much more customisation friendly.
So, your saying CoD wasn't better when they didn't HAVE perks, didn't HAVE crutches for players and didn't HAVE classes? Crutches are perks, its less about who shot who, and about who's perk magicked the bullet into the nearest nostril. I played the original CoD's online [1-3] and easily was a much better experience because you actually had to PLAY THE GAME and improve to be good, while now it's just, OH I GOT THE SUPER CRUTCH 5000, NOW I CAN KILL EVERYTHING, that's why so many kids are online, because it's too easy to be good.
A very valid point, I do have to agree with you on that, and I like everyone who isn't one of these annoying kids, hates these annoying kids. However, I don't agree that removing the 'crutches' altogether is not the way forward.

Instead of removing the aspects of a game that make it easier for new players to beat veteran players, such as yourself, the 'crutches' should be altered to allow for every aspect of a game to determine how well you play.

Not only should perks, guns and attachments determine how well you play, but other aspects of the game, such as the map layout, the way you move your character etc should have more of an impact into how well you play.

People who lie on the floor in the middle of a hallway to look like a corpse, or people who sit in the shadows of a busy room, shouldn't be the people who come out better off in a game like cod.
 

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Quick scoping
Noob tubes
knifing

ALL must be removed.
knifing could become an optional primary weapon that takes two hits to make it fair and then like in halo reach stealth assassinations should be available for when you're sneaking up behind somebody.
 

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Theres a mistake in your article. Infinity Ward doesn't work for Activision anymore and they're making a Scifi shooter next. The company your referring to is the Dead-Husk-Formerly-Known-As-Infinityward
 

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Sir Boss said:
well, there goes what was left of my interest... looks like I'll have to go to Space Marine to get my Melee on... Don't look at me like that!
Look at you like what? I just want there to be a 40k game not including space smurfs, I would settle for space marines as long as the divergent chapters get their due for being awesome.
*edit* btw, like the hello kitty marines?
 

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NameIsRobertPaulson said:
ruben6f said:
NameIsRobertPaulson said:
ruben6f said:
NameIsRobertPaulson said:
ruben6f said:
Other things I don't want:
Perks
Deathstreaks
killstreaks
noobtubes
quickscoping
prone.
There you go, CoD is fixed.
Then what game are you playing, exactly? If I had to guess I would say Medal on Honor circa 1997.
Call of duty 2, it didn't had any of those things ( it had prone but I don't like it) and the game was great.
Then you have zero substance. The game would die within a week because when you've seen one person using the assault class for the 140th time that game, it gets old fast. It turns into giant camp fests.
CoD 2 wasn't acamp fest while I played it, and I have seen the same thing a milion times in CoD, people hiding in corners, camping, OP weapons, spawn traps caused by OP killstreaks, noobtube and LMC classes, quickscopers, and that freaking painkiller!
My friend plays the MLG Pro matches

No Perks
No Killstreaks
No Deathstreaks
No Attatchments
No Equipment
No LMGs
Only Bolt Action Snipers
No M16, Famas, AK47, or G4
Only pistol secondary

And I watched him play a match. It went to time limit with one team having 7 kills, and one team having 4. It was the most bored I have ever been watching a shooting game.

That isn't MLG, I think that is competetive sniping, Snipers are boring.
 

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teh_Canape said:
SammiYin said:
Just get rid of knives in general and I'll be a happy man.
yeah, go back to using the gun's butt, at least it was more credible than pulling out a knife and slicing someone that quickly, while holding an M60
Bayonettes imo. You want insta kill melee you have to replace one of your current weapon slots with the bayonette.
 

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SmashLovesTitanQuest said:
Hey look, you again. Arent you the guy that I disagreed with once? And since then you have been following me around the forums, bitching at me? Yeah, you are. And last time you blasted me for defending COD. Now you are defending COD. You really need to get some hobbies man.
Sorry, what? Not everything is about you, you know. I have opinions, and I post them on a forum, which is theoretically what such things are for.

In my experience the single worst part of the CoD community are the kids who rage when people violate the arbitrary self-enforced rules they just made up. I mean seriously, I literally got hate for double-tapping with the EBR. These kids will rage at anything that kills them that they don't use themselves.
I wouldnt fucking know since I mute everyone the second I get into a lobby and rarely use a mic when im playing by myself. Honestly, you just need to bring up the score board. That hard?

A screaming kid? You can mute him in a matter of seconds. An OMA noobtuber? Hes there, and hes staying.
Hey, I actually enjoy it when I make a kid rage in MW2 - it's funny. In this context, though, I was talking about kids who rage about CoD perks on forums.

Paper overpowered, says rock. Scissors are fine, though.
Very ignorant statement. Not to mention stupid. Doesnt fit the situation at all.

But just to clarify, you think that a weapon that can kill from across the map, without seeing the enemy, without having to really hit him, you seriously think thats not overpowered? You think an assault rifle, an LMG and something that shoots explosive things that have a 5 meter radius and kill in one hit are on the same level? Seriously? Fuck that.

Straight up nightmaric....
Everything in CoD kills almost instantly. I remember getting basically the same result with the 50 Cal, Famas, UMP, RPD, or Raffica. It's easier for a player who's starting out to get kills with the noob tube, but once you reach a certain skill level you can easily get kills on anyone you have line-of-sight to with the vast majority of the primaries and a couple of the secondaries.

Im talking

*game starts*
*whips out noobtube* semtex
*tubes across the map into enemy spawn*
*spends the entire game shooting noobtubes into the air, spent the night before learning the noobtube spots, how you can tube over a building into an enemy spawn etc*
Fixed for you :) You can do that with basically any explosive weapon in the game that has an arc. Comes with the whole tiny map territory.
 

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Beware noobs. Infinity ward is cracking down. Although i will miss the pro effects, its good to see this gone. Now all thats left is noob tubeing(really, if a kid is too much of a pussy to leave spawn, or try hards with tubes, they need to hang themselves), quick scopes(the only time when CAMPING is acceptable, you are supposed to zoom in at long distaces and hit the head), and one man army(infinite camping supplies, really?). If these are all taken out i need to change my tag from suicida1 to a f*ckin happy midget.
 

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SmashLovesTitanQuest said:
dogstile said:
And Protip: Using a weapon isn't an exploit. If I use the UMP then i'm using a gun. You have one, a single bullet doesn't make any difference in a game where most people camp the hell out of a map. If i'm using a grenade launcher I have two shots, don't expect me not to use it if its easier than shooting at you, I will. Its a war game, you will be shot at. If you die, its part of the game.

But no, go on, assume i'm being a dick for using weapons in a game where you're meant to be killing eachother. At the moment you're coming across as a guy who'll run up the same street six times, get shot every time then yell that the other team is camping.

And a last thing about spawnkilling. If a guy spawns in front of me and he's an enemy, do you really think it'd be wise of me to stop in the middle of my rampage and go "off you trot mate, five second rule". Course not, he'd just shoot me.
Yeah, no fucking shit sherlock. Im talking OMA noobtubes and the likes. I dont give a fuck about the UMP, its OP but not to the point where you equip it and win.

And a last thing about spawnkilling, once again, no shit, blablabla, quoting me out of context, either you missed the point or you cant think of a valid argument so youre just responding to things I didnt say now. Im talking

*game starts*
*whips out noobtube*
*tubes across the map into enemy spawn*
*spends the entire game shooting noobtubes into the air, spent the night before learning the noobtube spots, how you can tube over a building into an enemy spawn etc*
Wonderful, not only do you forget what you've said in your older posts, you then deny that you generalized everyone who uses the grenade launcher and then you bring out a very specific scenario to try and prove that.

This is just, thank you, you've made my night. You people seriously make arguing on forums worth it.