Morrowind 2011 Mod Collection Pulled After Complaints

[SlasherX]

Mods are free and community shared, this makes no god-damned sense............................. Whiny bitches of mod writers

 

[Jumwa]

Bah. That's kind of lame. It's really a lovely mod to have, but I guess if worst came to worst you'd just download the separate pieces. I don't think there was anything exclusive to that mod.

It wasn't simply a compilation, the mod compiler did go through the trouble of making tweaks for compatibilities sake, so just getting all the individual mods wont have the same effect and will lead to problems.

 

[AstylahAthrys]

Bah. That's kind of lame. It's really a lovely mod to have, but I guess if worst came to worst you'd just download the separate pieces. I don't think there was anything exclusive to that mod.

It wasn't simply a compilation, the mod compiler did go through the trouble of making tweaks for compatibilities sake, so just getting all the individual mods wont have the same effect and will lead to problems.

Well, then... man, this really sucks. Lucky I got it before it got taken down!

 

[Veloxe]

I don't understand the people who are sad because it got taken down and they didn't get their hands on it. Once it's on the internet, it's on the internet forever! A mild understanding of how google works and how to recognize a dubious site and you can get it in like 5 minutes.

 

[Snotnarok]

Good luck getting all of your single and separate mods to be popular when it's annoying and tedious to install them all one by one and hope everything is still working.

I can see why they're mad but I can also see why this is stupid.

 

[Zechnophobe]

I hope he posts the usernames or emails of these assholes so they get spammed into oblivion and people know whos mods to stop supporting. I don't care who is right or wrong here, those people are fucking douchebags, plain and simple.

Spammed into... awww shit man, I see what you did there. Clever, VERY clever.

 

[The Lunatic]

So much for "Community".

Seriously, people need to stop being butthurt about something like this.

If anything, it's flattery.

 

[New York Patrick]

And thus Morrowind 2011 because the most reproduced Morrowind mod ever, spread around by countless 3rd parties who were all quoted as saying "seriously, fuck those guys."

Ok, this is probably the exact reason the modders were not happy in the first place. First and foremost it's not a mod, it's a package containing other peoples mods. The incorrect notion that he created these mods [and to be honest that's the impression some gaming sites gave] would no doubt have angered those that took the time and effort to create said mods.

It's always be called a collaboration of mods. Considering the mods were most likely made for free, the modders should just be happy that people are enjoying their content as they have made the mods selflessly. It makes no sense to offer a mod for free and then have a hissy fit when it's essentially put into a "Best of" mod compilation. Personally I think they are letting their egos go to their head and blowing it completely out of proportion.

Especially since this guy probably put a shitload of work into.. I don't know, making it so that they would all run compatibally with eachother, (which, in my morrowind modding experience is a pain in the ass to do when you have 30+ mods, rather than, ooh, let's see, one big convienient compilation.) It is probably worth noting that this is NOT the first compilation of sorts that has cropped up in the morrowind modding community, but so far, this is the only one I have heard of that has "legal action" tied to it.

 

[NezumiiroKitsune]

It isn't about money, it's about being recognised for your work, and getting relevant rankings to the quality of your work on the likes of the nexus. They were fully within their rights to ask him to take it down, I do wish he'd asked permission, though I think banning him was extreme. He should release the development notes on how to implement this yourself. That way, he gets recognition for making it work, and the mod creators get their downloads, ratings and whatever else they deserve.

 

[Jake the Snake]

I don't understand how exactly they're able to sue. Mods are..free right? And they're not made by the Developer (Bethesda) they're made by regular people. It's not like they own Morrowind. It's not their IP...sigh, people want to protect their creations I suppose though.

 

[Erana]

So, people who are calling the original mod creators jerks, or something along those lines, have you ever had your work appropriated?

 

[Fumbleumble]

It isn't about money, it's about being recognised for your work, and getting relevant rankings to the quality of your work on the likes of the nexus. They were fully within their rights to ask him to take it down, I do wish he'd asked permission, though I think banning him was extreme. He should release the development notes on how to implement this yourself. That way, he gets recognition for making it work, and the mod creators get their downloads, ratings and whatever else they deserve.

His work is every bit as relevent to the mod and player 'community' (lol) as the actual mod makers' is... the mod makers TAKE bethesda's final product and release something based on it.. this guy takes the modders final product and releases something based on it (and far more useful as far as I'm concerned, he saves me work and gives me a working end product.. which strangly enough is more than the modders OR Bethesda actually did for me ).

These muppet's don't have a leg to stand on.. it's not their's, none of it is.... unless we've actually gotten to the stage where people can legalify their sweat.

 

[FinalFrog]

Actually it was released as a torrent so the collection can't exactly be "pulled" in any real sense. But you didn't hear that from me. =P

As for the reaction of the modding community, I'm disappointed but I can't say I'm surprised. Many modders are quite temperamental about people reusing or modifying their work. But I'd hoped that this would expand the number of people who experience all the wonderful things which modding can do for a game like Morrowind. The reaction of the certain modders and the things which have resulted for the creator of this compilation disappoint me. Some people never learned to share apparently...

 

[Snotnarok]

I hope he posts the usernames or emails of these assholes so they get spammed into oblivion and people know whos mods to stop supporting. I don't care who is right or wrong here, those people are fucking douchebags, plain and simple.

oh, I'm thinking about deep searching for it just to get the credits file and blast away at all, ALL of the mod creators that were in this compilation mod.

OT: I rarely make a mod for a game, and it usually ends up being made just for the hell of it, but if someone should get their hands on it I wouldn't care if they re-released it in a compilation pack as long as there is a proper credit.txt included.

all I see from this is just a bunch of idiots crying that they didn't get the downloads that this mod, that really did have an awesome install instructions [as compared to other modders who don't say shit on how to install their "awesome game changing mods"].


oh well, once something is on the internet, it never disappears.

The real shame in this is he put work into it to make it easy for people who aren't savvy with mods and got all the mods to work to make a even better game.

That's the thing that annoys me, Modders don't work together, so sometimes getting mods to work is harder than it has to be. So this guy makes all their mods work together, makes it beautiful making the damn game they're trying to make better shine...and then they get pissed.

Seriously, it's a bit screwed up.

 

[Fumbleumble]

Does no one else consider his effort a 'MOD' in it's own right?..

I certainly do.. I see absolutely no difference in principal whatsoever.

 

[NezumiiroKitsune]

It isn't about money, it's about being recognised for your work, and getting relevant rankings to the quality of your work on the likes of the nexus. They were fully within their rights to ask him to take it down, I do wish he'd asked permission, though I think banning him was extreme. He should release the development notes on how to implement this yourself. That way, he gets recognition for making it work, and the mod creators get their downloads, ratings and whatever else they deserve.

His work is every bit as relevent to the mod and player 'community' (lol) as the actual mod makers' is... the mod makers TAKE bethesda's final product and release something based on it.. this guy takes the modders final product and releases something based on it (and far more useful as far as I'm concerned, he saves me work and gives me a working end product.. which strangly enough is more than the modders OR Bethesda actually did for me ).

These muppet's don't have a leg to stand on.. it's not their's, none of it is.... unless we've actually gotten to the stage where people can legalify their sweat.

I don't think he created anything, he just arranged the load order and mod settings to allow them to co-interact without crashing or lagging the game. This is all certainly relevant stuff, but it's not a mod or building on their mods. I'd be surprised if he needed the TES Contruction kit for this.

This is a very convenient package that saves users a lot of time, but it does take away from the original uploaders. No one reads credits text files, their mod uploads would become second place, and if this became popular practice people might start collecting mods everywhere and uploading swarms of compilations, making it very difficult for the mods like the ones used in this compilation to get the recognition to become worthy of compilations like this.

 

[ninjajoeman]

I hope he posts the usernames or emails of these assholes so they get spammed into oblivion and people know whos mods to stop supporting. I don't care who is right or wrong here, those people are fucking douchebags, plain and simple.

was that a pun?

 

[Manic Oppressive]

I hope he posts the usernames or emails of these assholes so they get spammed into oblivion and people know whos mods to stop supporting. I don't care who is right or wrong here, those people are fucking douchebags, plain and simple.

Yeah, those people are douchbags for not wanting someone to compile their mod [that they spent a lot of time and effort on, and then released to the community] in a package without their permission...

I think you need a reality check - the mod creators aren't in the wrong here, what the guy did was illegal, and what's more he clearly [well according to this news post anyway] didn't ask permission from the modders in the first place - and he's gaining positive publicity from their work...there's nothing wrong with them threatening action against him.

If they didn't it would only encourage similar incidents - permission is important in the mod scene, and I assume, had he asked around, he'd have received the permission he sought, instead of incorrectly assuming the modders would be satisfied with his offer.

Your ignorance of the law is painful.

Read the EULA. This issue has come up with a lot of games in the past. If you release a mod for a game into the public domain you have No. Rights. To it. If it was coded off of Morrowind, Bethesda owns it. You can pull your whiny crap about how "ARTISTS NEEDZ TO OWNZ THERR WORKZ," but if you mod a game you have to acknowledge that you are MODIFYING SOMEONE ELSE'S SHIT. If a modder whines when his mod is modded, he is a HYPOCRITE.

Frankly, I'm surprised the guy caved. They can threaten legal action all they want, there's jack shit they could actually do.