the only good thing they have done is added OP chickens.One Hit Noob said:They used the same engine. Added new game modes. REWORKED spec ops. Continued what looked like an almost generic plot into an AMAZING one. Revamped perks. Made better maps. And than slapped in new guns. I think they did some good work.mocruz1200 said:in my head, this is how the creation of MW3 came about
employee 1: hey, we should probably patch MW2 and release some more maps for it
employee 2: no, WAIT! we can do that, but release it as a new game, and charge them full price again!
employee 1: GENIUS.
I watched the video, I saw him using the same BS kill streaks from previous CoD games. None of the other changes matter. Though I won't complain since I'm the one using them most of the time.Korten12 said:Shows how much you actually looked at the changes.Barry93 said:In MW2, I would often get more kills with kill streaks then I would with actual guns during a match. I spent most of the match sitting in a corner while my harriers, Pave Low, and Chopper Gunner did all the work. Looks like nothing has changed. I'll probably get the game just to troll people with the most OP weapon, perk, kill streak, and attachment combination. Then spend 15 minutes after each game responding to mail by 12 year olds calling me a hacker (and it's surprisingly entertaining.) I wonder how long it will take people to hack the leaderboards and give themselves a billion kills.
Then again, most of the escapist don't even know the changes they just assume.
dont need to own it. im just going with CoD's record. slightly modify it, charge full price. like someone stated before, they may as well just start following the sport game title system, seeing as one gets released every year.One Hit Noob said:And where is your proof of this? Did you buy a physical copy of it? No, because you didn't even buy the game to be sure.mocruz1200 said:the only good thing they have done is added OP chickens.One Hit Noob said:They used the same engine. Added new game modes. REWORKED spec ops. Continued what looked like an almost generic plot into an AMAZING one. Revamped perks. Made better maps. And than slapped in new guns. I think they did some good work.mocruz1200 said:in my head, this is how the creation of MW3 came about
employee 1: hey, we should probably patch MW2 and release some more maps for it
employee 2: no, WAIT! we can do that, but release it as a new game, and charge them full price again!
employee 1: GENIUS.
I agree with the statement you're trying to make. Doom AFAIK is the first game with it, Rise of the Triad pioneered lots of changes (CTF, voice macros/voice chat with microphone, deathmatch-specific maps, etc), and it really got prolific with quake and unreal.kebab4you said:Hi? Heard about Id? From your statement it doesn't sound like you have.
Because it's upsetting to see people buy a product that they feel is worse. Not just less fun from a subjective standpoint, but inferior from an inarguable technical standpoint, less innovative from an objective standpoint, etc...Noceus said:Why must people argue betwen Battlefield and Call of Duty, why can't people just post "I like that because of bla bla" instead of writing that the other one sucks and being a little fanboy. -.-
Okay, I've played both BFBC2 & Every COD including and after 4. I like COD for the (usually) decent gunplay, and the kill streak rewards. I think they actually set it apart from any other FPS series. I also genuinely enjoy the single player. The multiplayer is alright, and I admit it is heavily flawed, but that doesn't mean you can't have fun with it. Battlefield is simply not my favorite major FPS franchise, but then again I only played BC2.Noceus said:Why must people argue betwen Battlefield and Call of Duty, why can't people just post "I like that because of bla bla" instead of writing that the other one sucks and being a little fanboy. -.-
One Hit Noob said:Every two years if you exclude Treyarch. Really, if you get rid of COD 3, WaW, and Black Ops, you would actually feel a change in that "record".mocruz1200 said:dont need to own it. im just going with CoD's record. slightly modify it, charge full price. like someone stated before, they may as well just start following the sport game title system, seeing as one gets released every year.One Hit Noob said:And where is your proof of this? Did you buy a physical copy of it? No, because you didn't even buy the game to be sure.mocruz1200 said:the only good thing they have done is added OP chickens.One Hit Noob said:They used the same engine. Added new game modes. REWORKED spec ops. Continued what looked like an almost generic plot into an AMAZING one. Revamped perks. Made better maps. And than slapped in new guns. I think they did some good work.mocruz1200 said:in my head, this is how the creation of MW3 came about
employee 1: hey, we should probably patch MW2 and release some more maps for it
employee 2: no, WAIT! we can do that, but release it as a new game, and charge them full price again!
employee 1: GENIUS.
I really think if a game wants to have lasting play value for me, it needs to have varied gameplay. It's why I'll play games like Oblivion and the Fallout series, there are a few dozen ways to play the game and it's interesting to see how different playstyles go.EcksTeaSea said:...? It looks no different from MW 2? Why should it look any different gameplay wise? All that needs to be tweaked each game is killstreaks, perks, and guns. Core gameplay should stay the same. The things people find to complain about is insane.
Some people actually prefer that.WouldYouKindly said:I really think if a game wants to have lasting play value for me, it needs to have varied gameplay. It's why I'll play games like Oblivion and the Fallout series, there are a few dozen ways to play the game and it's interesting to see how different playstyles go.EcksTeaSea said:...? It looks no different from MW 2? Why should it look any different gameplay wise? All that needs to be tweaked each game is killstreaks, perks, and guns. Core gameplay should stay the same. The things people find to complain about is insane.
For major FPS titles, BF has the much more varied gameplay within a few modes. While MW is more varied in what the objective is, there's still only two ways to play the game, run and kill people or sit and kill people.
If I wanted to in BF, I could never fire a shot and still help my team win. Repairing vehicles, resupplying allies, spotting enemies, and healing allies all net you points. In MW, only capturing and killing get you points.
but why? they are still Call of Duty games. thats like saying to exclude Duke Nukem Forever because it was made by gearboxOne Hit Noob said:Exclude Treyarch's games. Now it's every TWO years since Call of Duty.mocruz1200 said:One Hit Noob said:Every two years if you exclude Treyarch. Really, if you get rid of COD 3, WaW, and Black Ops, you would actually feel a change in that "record".mocruz1200 said:dont need to own it. im just going with CoD's record. slightly modify it, charge full price. like someone stated before, they may as well just start following the sport game title system, seeing as one gets released every year.One Hit Noob said:And where is your proof of this? Did you buy a physical copy of it? No, because you didn't even buy the game to be sure.mocruz1200 said:the only good thing they have done is added OP chickens.One Hit Noob said:They used the same engine. Added new game modes. REWORKED spec ops. Continued what looked like an almost generic plot into an AMAZING one. Revamped perks. Made better maps. And than slapped in new guns. I think they did some good work.mocruz1200 said:in my head, this is how the creation of MW3 came about
employee 1: hey, we should probably patch MW2 and release some more maps for it
employee 2: no, WAIT! we can do that, but release it as a new game, and charge them full price again!
employee 1: GENIUS.
starting with CoD4 they have been pumping one out EVERY year
And that's fine for them. I was merely explaining my own reasoning for preferring BF.Aleol said:Some people actually prefer that.WouldYouKindly said:I really think if a game wants to have lasting play value for me, it needs to have varied gameplay. It's why I'll play games like Oblivion and the Fallout series, there are a few dozen ways to play the game and it's interesting to see how different playstyles go.EcksTeaSea said:...? It looks no different from MW 2? Why should it look any different gameplay wise? All that needs to be tweaked each game is killstreaks, perks, and guns. Core gameplay should stay the same. The things people find to complain about is insane.
For major FPS titles, BF has the much more varied gameplay within a few modes. While MW is more varied in what the objective is, there's still only two ways to play the game, run and kill people or sit and kill people.
If I wanted to in BF, I could never fire a shot and still help my team win. Repairing vehicles, resupplying allies, spotting enemies, and healing allies all net you points. In MW, only capturing and killing get you points.
Ah that´s what you meant, then I would like to say CS, even if it didn't have any kind of vehicles to it(still had CTF,voice macros/voice chat/DM/specifc maps) bf pretty much built on that method.Valiance said:I agree with the statement you're trying to make. Doom AFAIK is the first game with it, Rise of the Triad pioneered lots of changes (CTF, voice macros/voice chat with microphone, deathmatch-specific maps, etc), and it really got prolific with quake and unreal.kebab4you said:Hi? Heard about Id? From your statement it doesn't sound like you have.
However, BF1942 is the first real team-based objective based large scale vehicle-inclusive territory control multiplayer that I saw, and I guess he might be referring to that.