BvS didn't bomb.008Zulu said:I stopped watching about half way through. Prediction: It will bomb, almost as bad as Batman vs Superman.
BvS didn't bomb.008Zulu said:I stopped watching about half way through. Prediction: It will bomb, almost as bad as Batman vs Superman.
Arguable.IOwnTheSpire said:BvS didn't bomb.008Zulu said:I stopped watching about half way through. Prediction: It will bomb, almost as bad as Batman vs Superman.
Bombed critically, still hasn't started turning a profit financially. WB is mulling over releasing the R cut to theaters to try to salvage the situation. You are correct that it is not technically a bomb, it is nowhere near a success. Maybe a better choice would be to call it a flop.IOwnTheSpire said:BvS didn't bomb.008Zulu said:I stopped watching about half way through. Prediction: It will bomb, almost as bad as Batman vs Superman.
No need to cry my friend. Despite WB best "efforts" to destroy our childhoods, all of the episodes of those animated series are still out there to entertain you. If you want to really stick that middle finger out at them I suggest binging some Batman: The Brave and the Bold on Netflix, which is basically a team-up mix of the Animated Series and Silver Age fun. Criminally underappreciated in my opinion.AccursedTheory said:God damn it, I came in here to make fun of WB/DC/BvS/SS, not cry.
Oh, I know. Justice League/JL: Unlimited on Netflix are exactly what I watched after Dawn of Justice kicked me in the balls and ruined my day. Watched it just to remind me that not all DC stuff is trash.mduncan50 said:No need to cry my friend. Despite WB best "efforts" to destroy our childhoods, all of the episodes of those animated series are still out there to entertain you. If you want to really stick that middle finger out at them I suggest binging some Batman: The Brave and the Bold on Netflix, which is basically a team-up mix of the Animated Series and Silver Age fun. Criminally underappreciated in my opinion.AccursedTheory said:God damn it, I came in here to make fun of WB/DC/BvS/SS, not cry.
It is still 200million shy of it's projected goal, second weekend saw a 60% drop in sales over opening weekend, and it's score is at 28% Yeah, it bombed.IOwnTheSpire said:BvS didn't bomb.
The critic reviews fell again? I mean the audience review just went into the 60s, but I thought the critic reviews couldn't go lower.008Zulu said:It is still 200million shy of it's projected goal, second weekend saw a 60% drop in sales over opening weekend, and it's score is at 28% Yeah, it bombed.IOwnTheSpire said:BvS didn't bomb.
What I find even sadder is that within hours of allowing audience reviews on Rotten Tomatoes (and days before the movie was released) there was over 100,000 reviews with an average score of 9.7. Now it's dropped to 6.9 without even doubling the amount of reviews. I don't feel like mathing, but I'm pretty sure that means the "real" audience score is pretty darn bad. But of course it's a "big conspiracy" that the critics' scores are so low.Bob_McMillan said:The critic reviews fell again? I mean the audience review just went into the 60s, but I thought the critic reviews couldn't go lower.008Zulu said:It is still 200million shy of it's projected goal, second weekend saw a 60% drop in sales over opening weekend, and it's score is at 28% Yeah, it bombed.IOwnTheSpire said:BvS didn't bomb.
Well...mduncan50 said:What I find even sadder is that within hours of allowing audience reviews on Rotten Tomatoes (and days before the movie was released) there was over 100,000 reviews with an average score of 9.7. Now it's dropped to 6.9 without even doubling the amount of reviews. I don't feel like mathing, but I'm pretty sure that means the "real" audience score is pretty darn bad. But of course it's a "big conspiracy" that the critics' scores are so low.Bob_McMillan said:The critic reviews fell again? I mean the audience review just went into the 60s, but I thought the critic reviews couldn't go lower.008Zulu said:It is still 200million shy of it's projected goal, second weekend saw a 60% drop in sales over opening weekend, and it's score is at 28% Yeah, it bombed.IOwnTheSpire said:BvS didn't bomb.
Well now my head just hurts. Not sure if it's from following your math or because of how sad the result is.AccursedTheory said:Well...mduncan50 said:What I find even sadder is that within hours of allowing audience reviews on Rotten Tomatoes (and days before the movie was released) there was over 100,000 reviews with an average score of 9.7. Now it's dropped to 6.9 without even doubling the amount of reviews. I don't feel like mathing, but I'm pretty sure that means the "real" audience score is pretty darn bad. But of course it's a "big conspiracy" that the critics' scores are so low.Bob_McMillan said:The critic reviews fell again? I mean the audience review just went into the 60s, but I thought the critic reviews couldn't go lower.008Zulu said:It is still 200million shy of it's projected goal, second weekend saw a 60% drop in sales over opening weekend, and it's score is at 28% Yeah, it bombed.IOwnTheSpire said:BvS didn't bomb.
Votes x Percentage = Total 'Points'
100,000 x 97 = 9,700,000
197,018 x 69 = 13,594,242
197,018 current votes - 100,000 vote benchmark = 97,018 votes since 97% approval rating
13,594,242 current points - 9,700,000 point benchmark = 3,894,242 points since 97% approval rating
3,894,242 points / 97,018 votes = 40.1 points per vote
So since the votes got 'honest,' the average score has been 40.1%, or barely above 2/5 stars.
That's pretty bad.
Probably the math. My presentation was miserable.mduncan50 said:AccursedTheory said:Well...mduncan50 said:What I find even sadder is that within hours of allowing audience reviews on Rotten Tomatoes (and days before the movie was released) there was over 100,000 reviews with an average score of 9.7. Now it's dropped to 6.9 without even doubling the amount of reviews. I don't feel like mathing, but I'm pretty sure that means the "real" audience score is pretty darn bad. But of course it's a "big conspiracy" that the critics' scores are so low.Bob_McMillan said:The critic reviews fell again? I mean the audience review just went into the 60s, but I thought the critic reviews couldn't go lower.008Zulu said:It is still 200million shy of it's projected goal, second weekend saw a 60% drop in sales over opening weekend, and it's score is at 28% Yeah, it bombed.IOwnTheSpire said:BvS didn't bomb.
Votes x Percentage = Total 'Points'
100,000 x 97 = 9,700,000
197,018 x 69 = 13,594,242
197,018 current votes - 100,000 vote benchmark = 97,018 votes since 97% approval rating
13,594,242 current points - 9,700,000 point benchmark = 3,894,242 points since 97% approval rating
3,894,242 points / 97,018 votes = 40.1 points per vote
So since the votes got 'honest,' the average score has been 40.1%, or barely above 2/5 stars.
That's pretty bad.
Well now my head just hurts. Not sure if it's from following your math or because of how sad the result is.
I think that to paraphrase some guy who really likes Doctor Who...Lightknight said:If you honestly believe that the movie is doing something out of character, you don't know anything about this character's development.
Frankly, the T-shirt is more than what they could have done and stayed in character. The pictures you produced above were just the campy child versions of the team. Not the darker more realistic versions like the movie is portraying.
You're simply wrong here and that's okay. We're all a little under educated on something. Even things we may be passionate about. I too found it bizarre when I realized how sexy they were making her.
BtAS and BatB are my two favorite series, not sure who is on top because I LOVE BatB Aquaman for his exuberance at everything.mduncan50 said:If you want to really stick that middle finger out at them I suggest binging some Batman: The Brave and the Bold on Netflix, which is basically a team-up mix of the Animated Series and Silver Age fun. Criminally underappreciated in my opinion.
OUTRAGEOUS!!minkus_draconus said:BtAS and BatB are my two favorite series, not sure who is on top because I LOVE BatB Aquaman for his exuberance at everything.mduncan50 said:If you want to really stick that middle finger out at them I suggest binging some Batman: The Brave and the Bold on Netflix, which is basically a team-up mix of the Animated Series and Silver Age fun. Criminally underappreciated in my opinion.
I was gonna say the same thing. Holy crap, is it not exhausting to be this cynical all the time?Cheesy Goodness said:This thread has more pessimism than BvS ever did. I for one will not be a Negative Nancy. I proudly proclaim I like what I saw.
I'm doubtful of that. People seemed much more excited for this at the outset than anyone ever did for BvS.008Zulu said:I stopped watching about half way through. Prediction: It will bomb, almost as bad as Batman vs Superman.
Of course not. And it's kind of weird that people don't realize why so much pessimism is attached to this thread, particularly in relation to BvS.Auron225 said:Cheesy Goodness said:This thread has more pessimism than BvS ever did. I for one will not be a Negative Nancy. I proudly proclaim I like what I saw.
I was gonna say the same thing. Holy crap, is it not exhausting to be this cynical all the time?
A sign that it was well casted. Costumes that aren't the most visually boring ever produced for these characters. A hint of a soul behind the production. Something to confirms that Will Smith isn't playing as Will Smith. Anything that make's me think 'Wow, this really reminds me of how good DC can be,' rather then 'Wow, this reminds me of how good DC used to be.' Evidence of a coherent plot, instead of some sort of mash up between Batman, Harley/Joker flash backs, and whatever the hell Suicide Squad is up to.What do you people want from it? What was this trailer (or the other trailers for that matter) missing?
The problem is that we're (Or at least I am) getting the distinct impression that Suicide Squad isn't about humor and nostalgic music. That those two things are actually aftermarket bolt-on features added to distinguish it from the painfully bad BvS, but that it's core, once you cut away all that frivolous garbage, it's still the same dull, boring, ultra dark DC crap.Heaven forfend they use humour or f*cking background music (like every other trailer since the beginning of time) to try and sell what they have. It's not a sign of weakness, it's just good old fashioned marketing. Humour was something sorely lacking from BvS; I know DC wanted dank, dark and gritty but I for one cannot take 150 minutes of it without getting suicidal by the end of it.
Fair enough. A lot of us don't.I think this looks at the very least entertaining.
Ick.I like the look of Leto's Joker and Robbie's Harley Quinn
I just wish this movie stayed with its dark roots of the first trailer but NOOOOOO people had to complain and the "bright colorful fun" police had to step in. (Looks at Kevin Smith)AccursedTheory said:Of course not. And it's kind of weird that people don't realize why so much pessimism is attached to this thread, particularly in relation to BvS.Auron225 said:Cheesy Goodness said:This thread has more pessimism than BvS ever did. I for one will not be a Negative Nancy. I proudly proclaim I like what I saw.
I was gonna say the same thing. Holy crap, is it not exhausting to be this cynical all the time?
The reason people are more wary of this film then they were of BvS (Not that there wasn't doubt in that project as well) is because BvS only had one previous movie. It's kind of hard to say with absolute certainty that if you dislike one thing, you'll dislike all that follows. But then BvS came, and now we have two movies to hold up as an example for what this could be, and it's not good. At best, there's one movie that 90% of us can use to predict what this film will be like (Bad). At worst, some (Most) people here hated both of them, so now they're doubly sure, based off of our current sample, that this is going to be a mess. And that's not even going into the trailers (Which a lot of people don't like obviously).
A sign that it was well casted. Costumes that aren't the most visually boring ever produced for these characters. A hint of a soul behind the production. Something to confirms that Will Smith isn't playing as Will Smith. Anything that make's me think 'Wow, this really reminds me of how good DC can be,' rather then 'Wow, this reminds me of how good DC used to be.' Evidence of a coherent plot, instead of some sort of mash up between Batman, Harley/Joker flash backs, and whatever the hell Suicide Squad is up to.What do you people want from it? What was this trailer (or the other trailers for that matter) missing?
Any of the above would be nice.
The problem is that we're (Or at least I am) getting the distinct impression that Suicide Squad isn't about humor and nostalgic music. That those two things are actually aftermarket bolt-on features added to distinguish it from the painfully bad BvS, but that it's core, once you cut away all that frivolous garbage, it's still the same dull, boring, ultra dark DC crap.Heaven forfend they use humour or f*cking background music (like every other trailer since the beginning of time) to try and sell what they have. It's not a sign of weakness, it's just good old fashioned marketing. Humour was something sorely lacking from BvS; I know DC wanted dank, dark and gritty but I for one cannot take 150 minutes of it without getting suicidal by the end of it.
Fair enough. A lot of us don't.I think this looks at the very least entertaining.
Ick.I like the look of Leto's Joker and Robbie's Harley Quinn
Well, there you go, now you know why 'we' don't like it. It's fair enough if you do, but it would be appreciated if you didn't act like these trailers are objectively good.
While I may not agree with your apparent dislike of GoG, I think you've perfectly illustrated why many up us don't have faith in it. WB/DC doesn't even appear to have faith in the product they set out to make, so why should we?Samtemdo8 said:I just wish this movie stayed with its dark roots of the first trailer but NOOOOOO people had to complain and the "bright colorful fun" police had to step in. (Looks at Kevin Smith)
Now I fear I am gonna have another Guardians of the Galaxy level of "humor" and thus its gonna be a very cringy screening for me
I HATED Guardians of the Galaxy.mduncan50 said:While I may not agree with your apparent dislike of GoG, I think you've perfectly illustrated why many up us don't have faith in it. WB/DC doesn't even appear to have faith in the product they set out to make, so why should we?Samtemdo8 said:I just wish this movie stayed with its dark roots of the first trailer but NOOOOOO people had to complain and the "bright colorful fun" police had to step in. (Looks at Kevin Smith)
Now I fear I am gonna have another Guardians of the Galaxy level of "humor" and thus its gonna be a very cringy screening for me