New Suicide Squad trailer - Much funny, such Batman, wow.
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Arguable.IOwnTheSpire said:
They started off talking about 1 billion plus, and are now hoping for 900 million. Reportedly, the movie needed to make 700-800 million to break even. That's not a very good profit margin, especially since, as a franchise maker, this movie was supposed to set up the potential success for the follow up movies. What it's really done is show that DC may not be able to pull down the ticket sales it needs to sell 'lesser' movies like Wonder Woman (If you can't sell Batman and Superman together, I question whether you could sell water to a man dying of thirst), and worse, they've poisoned the well for later movies by completely dropping the ball (For most people). I know they've lost all my money, and I'd wager I'm not the only one with that opinion.
And really, Dawn of Justice is doing terribly. On weekend 3, it's already down to The Avenger's week 5 numbers. It got beat by this movie this weekend.
For fucks sake. Zootopia stayed in first place longer then Dawn has. And for funsies, while Dawn of Justice has already beaten Deadpool overall, numbers wise (Except, undoubtedly, for actual profit), there's a real danger that when Dawn finally leaves theaters, Deadpool will have beaten it domestically.
Seriously. DC brought Superman, Batman, and Wonder Woman to a comic book movie fight, and they're losing in the United States to a giant tumor who got pegged on International Women's Day.
Bombed critically, still hasn't started turning a profit financially. WB is mulling over releasing the R cut to theaters to try to salvage the situation. You are correct that it is not technically a bomb, it is nowhere near a success. Maybe a better choice would be to call it a flop.IOwnTheSpire said:
No need to cry my friend. Despite WB best "efforts" to destroy our childhoods, all of the episodes of those animated series are still out there to entertain you. If you want to really stick that middle finger out at them I suggest binging some Batman: The Brave and the Bold on Netflix, which is basically a team-up mix of the Animated Series and Silver Age fun. Criminally underappreciated in my opinion.AccursedTheory said:
Oh, I know. Justice League/JL: Unlimited on Netflix are exactly what I watched after Dawn of Justice kicked me in the balls and ruined my day. Watched it just to remind me that not all DC stuff is trash.mduncan50 said:
It's just... well, it's a tender episode. Really gets me in the feels, every single time.
Luckily, I have Aquaman to cheer me up.
It is still 200million shy of it's projected goal, second weekend saw a 60% drop in sales over opening weekend, and it's score is at 28% Yeah, it bombed.IOwnTheSpire said:
The critic reviews fell again? I mean the audience review just went into the 60s, but I thought the critic reviews couldn't go lower.008Zulu said:
I think the reason the jokes in the MCU tend to work fairly well isn't because they're particularly good (seriously, they're about on par with what I saw in this trailer barring a few notable exceptions), it's because they're delivered well. Maybe it's just the because they're being crammed into a trailer, but I don't think the delivery is working that well.
Still, it looks decent. Looks better than BvS, but that's not too hard.
Still, it looks decent. Looks better than BvS, but that's not too hard.
What I find even sadder is that within hours of allowing audience reviews on Rotten Tomatoes (and days before the movie was released) there was over 100,000 reviews with an average score of 9.7. Now it's dropped to 6.9 without even doubling the amount of reviews. I don't feel like mathing, but I'm pretty sure that means the "real" audience score is pretty darn bad. But of course it's a "big conspiracy" that the critics' scores are so low.Bob_McMillan said:
Well...mduncan50 said:
Votes x Percentage = Total 'Points'
100,000 x 97 = 9,700,000
197,018 x 69 = 13,594,242
197,018 current votes - 100,000 vote benchmark = 97,018 votes since 97% approval rating
13,594,242 current points - 9,700,000 point benchmark = 3,894,242 points since 97% approval rating
3,894,242 points / 97,018 votes = 40.1 points per vote
So since the votes got 'honest,' the average score has been 40.1%, or barely above 2/5 stars.
That's pretty bad.
I was hyped before... I was hyped again... And I'm hyped once more...
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Other than that, who invited Man-Bat? And why are people confuse him for Batman?
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Other than that, who invited Man-Bat? And why are people confuse him for Batman?
Probably the math. My presentation was miserable.mduncan50 said:
I was that guy who always had a few points knocked off my math test scores because we had to show our work, and even when I got the answer right, how I got there was incomprehensible on paper.
My apologies.
I think that to paraphrase some guy who really likes Doctor Who...Lightknight said:
"You never forget your first Harley"
I have no problem with Roller Derby Harley (I've seen the real thing and it's pretty on the nose) or any of the other looks. I do think her movie shorts are even shorter then some of the comic book ones.
I think my favorite one (animated series) would probably be impractical or not work well as live action.
BtAS and BatB are my two favorite series, not sure who is on top because I LOVE BatB Aquaman for his exuberance at everything.mduncan50 said:
I was gonna say the same thing. Holy crap, is it not exhausting to be this cynical all the time?Cheesy Goodness said:
What do you people want from it? What was this trailer (or the other trailers for that matter) missing? Heaven forfend they use humour or f*cking background music (like every other trailer since the beginning of time) to try and sell what they have. It's not a sign of weakness, it's just good old fashioned marketing. Humour was something sorely lacking from BvS; I know DC wanted dank, dark and gritty but I for one cannot take 150 minutes of it without getting suicidal by the end of it.
I think this looks at the very least entertaining. I like the look of Leto's Joker and Robbie's Harley Quinn, I like that it's a super-hero movie without the pompous/brooding superheroes (sorely needed after BvS), I appreciated the humour, the action looks fun... what else do you need? No, it's probably not gonna have a Shakespearean-level of plot but that's not what I watch superhero movies for. The only thing I think is holding this back is Will Smith's Deadshot, since it looks like from the trailers that he never grasped that he was meant to be a villian.
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I'm doubtful of that. People seemed much more excited for this at the outset than anyone ever did for BvS.008Zulu said:
Of course not. And it's kind of weird that people don't realize why so much pessimism is attached to this thread, particularly in relation to BvS.Auron225 said:
The reason people are more wary of this film then they were of BvS (Not that there wasn't doubt in that project as well) is because BvS only had one previous movie. It's kind of hard to say with absolute certainty that if you dislike one thing, you'll dislike all that follows. But then BvS came, and now we have two movies to hold up as an example for what this could be, and it's not good. At best, there's one movie that 90% of us can use to predict what this film will be like (Bad). At worst, some (Most) people here hated both of them, so now they're doubly sure, based off of our current sample, that this is going to be a mess. And that's not even going into the trailers (Which a lot of people don't like obviously).
A sign that it was well casted. Costumes that aren't the most visually boring ever produced for these characters. A hint of a soul behind the production. Something to confirms that Will Smith isn't playing as Will Smith. Anything that make's me think 'Wow, this really reminds me of how good DC can be,' rather then 'Wow, this reminds me of how good DC used to be.' Evidence of a coherent plot, instead of some sort of mash up between Batman, Harley/Joker flash backs, and whatever the hell Suicide Squad is up to.
Any of the above would be nice.
The problem is that we're (Or at least I am) getting the distinct impression that Suicide Squad isn't about humor and nostalgic music. That those two things are actually aftermarket bolt-on features added to distinguish it from the painfully bad BvS, but that it's core, once you cut away all that frivolous garbage, it's still the same dull, boring, ultra dark DC crap.
Fair enough. A lot of us don't.
Ick.
Well, there you go, now you know why 'we' don't like it. It's fair enough if you do, but it would be appreciated if you didn't act like these trailers are objectively good.
I just wish this movie stayed with its dark roots of the first trailer but NOOOOOO people had to complain and the "bright colorful fun" police had to step in. (Looks at Kevin Smith)AccursedTheory said:
Now I fear I am gonna have another Guardians of the Galaxy level of "humor" and thus its gonna be a very cringy screening for me
While I may not agree with your apparent dislike of GoG, I think you've perfectly illustrated why many up us don't have faith in it. WB/DC doesn't even appear to have faith in the product they set out to make, so why should we?Samtemdo8 said:I just wish this movie stayed with its dark roots of the first trailer but NOOOOOO people had to complain and the "bright colorful fun" police had to step in. (Looks at Kevin Smith)
Now I fear I am gonna have another Guardians of the Galaxy level of "humor" and thus its gonna be a very cringy screening for me
I HATED Guardians of the Galaxy.mduncan50 said:While I may not agree with your apparent dislike of GoG, I think you've perfectly illustrated why many up us don't have faith in it. WB/DC doesn't even appear to have faith in the product they set out to make, so why should we?Samtemdo8 said:I just wish this movie stayed with its dark roots of the first trailer but NOOOOOO people had to complain and the "bright colorful fun" police had to step in. (Looks at Kevin Smith)
Now I fear I am gonna have another Guardians of the Galaxy level of "humor" and thus its gonna be a very cringy screening for me
It was Puerile, it was Corny, it was Childish, I could not take the charcarters seriously and they had to gall to try to bring tears in my eyes with Groot's death when his death was just a CopyPaste of the Iron Giant's death and then they brought him back to life anyway
And I don't care if it was meant to be that way because its tone is reflected in most of the Marvel Movie's universe, Don't believe me here is an artilce saying that Thor 3 will be "funnier" then Dark World:
http://screenrant.com/thor-3-ragnarok-director-taika-waititi-funnier/
And the reason why DC/WB is doing this Humorous tone because the "internet" in its echo chamber keeps saying that "these movies need more humor and levity"
In my eyes this is what the "internet" wants to turn my DC into:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erEeoLnnyS8