New Suicide Squad trailer - Much funny, such Batman, wow.

[DefunctTheory]

Spoiler

I just wish this movie stayed with its dark roots of the first trailer but NOOOOOO people had to complain and the "bright colorful fun" police had to step in. (Looks at Kevin Smith)

Now I fear I am gonna have another Guardians of the Galaxy level of "humor" and thus its gonna be a very cringy screening for me

While I may not agree with your apparent dislike of GoG, I think you've perfectly illustrated why many up us don't have faith in it. WB/DC doesn't even appear to have faith in the product they set out to make, so why should we?

I HATED Guardians of the Galaxy.

It was Puerile, it was Corny, it was Childish, I could not take the charcarters seriously and they had to gall to try to bring tears in my eyes with Groot's death when his death was just a CopyPaste of the Iron Giant's death and then they brought him back to life anyway

And I don't care if it was meant to be that way because its tone is reflected in most of the Marvel Movie's universe, Don't believe me here is an artilce saying that Thor 3 will be "funnier" then Dark World:

http://screenrant.com/thor-3-ragnarok-director-taika-waititi-funnier/

And the reason why DC/WB is doing this Humorous tone because the "internet" in its echo chamber keeps saying that "these movies need more humor and levity"

In my eyes this is what the "internet" wants to turn my DC into:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erEeoLnnyS8

I assure you that we, the internet, would never do such a thing to 'your' DC.

We want to turn it into this.

 

[Samtemdo8_v1legacy]

Spoiler

I just wish this movie stayed with its dark roots of the first trailer but NOOOOOO people had to complain and the "bright colorful fun" police had to step in. (Looks at Kevin Smith)

Now I fear I am gonna have another Guardians of the Galaxy level of "humor" and thus its gonna be a very cringy screening for me

While I may not agree with your apparent dislike of GoG, I think you've perfectly illustrated why many up us don't have faith in it. WB/DC doesn't even appear to have faith in the product they set out to make, so why should we?

I HATED Guardians of the Galaxy.

It was Puerile, it was Corny, it was Childish, I could not take the charcarters seriously and they had to gall to try to bring tears in my eyes with Groot's death when his death was just a CopyPaste of the Iron Giant's death and then they brought him back to life anyway

And I don't care if it was meant to be that way because its tone is reflected in most of the Marvel Movie's universe, Don't believe me here is an artilce saying that Thor 3 will be "funnier" then Dark World:

http://screenrant.com/thor-3-ragnarok-director-taika-waititi-funnier/

And the reason why DC/WB is doing this Humorous tone because the "internet" in its echo chamber keeps saying that "these movies need more humor and levity"

In my eyes this is what the "internet" wants to turn my DC into:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erEeoLnnyS8

I assure you that we, the internet, would never do such a thing to 'your' DC.

We want to turn it into this.

No I don't want that either, I never liked Adam West Batman and I certainly would not like its offsprings.

What I want is more stuff like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTECNKpZAM4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6V4ImyKdsE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rV1giYzoo-c

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KfsAK3fIQo

 

[DefunctTheory]

Spoiler

Spoiler

I just wish this movie stayed with its dark roots of the first trailer but NOOOOOO people had to complain and the "bright colorful fun" police had to step in. (Looks at Kevin Smith)

Now I fear I am gonna have another Guardians of the Galaxy level of "humor" and thus its gonna be a very cringy screening for me

While I may not agree with your apparent dislike of GoG, I think you've perfectly illustrated why many up us don't have faith in it. WB/DC doesn't even appear to have faith in the product they set out to make, so why should we?

I HATED Guardians of the Galaxy.

It was Puerile, it was Corny, it was Childish, I could not take the charcarters seriously and they had to gall to try to bring tears in my eyes with Groot's death when his death was just a CopyPaste of the Iron Giant's death and then they brought him back to life anyway

And I don't care if it was meant to be that way because its tone is reflected in most of the Marvel Movie's universe, Don't believe me here is an artilce saying that Thor 3 will be "funnier" then Dark World:

http://screenrant.com/thor-3-ragnarok-director-taika-waititi-funnier/

And the reason why DC/WB is doing this Humorous tone because the "internet" in its echo chamber keeps saying that "these movies need more humor and levity"

In my eyes this is what the "internet" wants to turn my DC into:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erEeoLnnyS8

I assure you that we, the internet, would never do such a thing to 'your' DC.

We want to turn it into this.

No I don't want that either, I never liked Adam West Batman and I certainly would not like its offsprings.

What I want is more stuff like this:

Spoiler

Then I guess everyone involved just has to accept how disappointing the DCCU is shaping up. I would be stoked for a DCAU version too, or for a Bat vs Sup fight that was done a quarter as well as TDKR.

But you know what they say, wish in one hand and so on...

EDIT: And Brave and the Bold sources stuff that pre-dates Adam West's Batman, but I get your point. Strangely enough, the Brave and the Bold's Batman is fairly serious - Probably the only person in the series to be so. It's everyone else that's from the Super Friends.

 

[Samtemdo8_v1legacy]

Spoiler

Spoiler

I just wish this movie stayed with its dark roots of the first trailer but NOOOOOO people had to complain and the "bright colorful fun" police had to step in. (Looks at Kevin Smith)

Now I fear I am gonna have another Guardians of the Galaxy level of "humor" and thus its gonna be a very cringy screening for me

While I may not agree with your apparent dislike of GoG, I think you've perfectly illustrated why many up us don't have faith in it. WB/DC doesn't even appear to have faith in the product they set out to make, so why should we?

I HATED Guardians of the Galaxy.

It was Puerile, it was Corny, it was Childish, I could not take the charcarters seriously and they had to gall to try to bring tears in my eyes with Groot's death when his death was just a CopyPaste of the Iron Giant's death and then they brought him back to life anyway

And I don't care if it was meant to be that way because its tone is reflected in most of the Marvel Movie's universe, Don't believe me here is an artilce saying that Thor 3 will be "funnier" then Dark World:

http://screenrant.com/thor-3-ragnarok-director-taika-waititi-funnier/

And the reason why DC/WB is doing this Humorous tone because the "internet" in its echo chamber keeps saying that "these movies need more humor and levity"

In my eyes this is what the "internet" wants to turn my DC into:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erEeoLnnyS8

I assure you that we, the internet, would never do such a thing to 'your' DC.

We want to turn it into this.

No I don't want that either, I never liked Adam West Batman and I certainly would not like its offsprings.

What I want is more stuff like this:

Spoiler

Then I guess everyone involved just has to accept how disappointing the DCCU is shaping up. I would be stoked for a DCAU version too, or for a Bat vs Sup fight that was done a quarter as well as TDKR.

But you know what they say, wish in one hand and so on...

EDIT: And Brave and the Bold sources stuff that pre-dates Adam West's Batman, but I get your point. Strangely enough, the Brave and the Bold's Batman is fairly serious - Probably the only person in the series to be so. It's everyone else that's from the Super Friends.

Also you missed one more video that I posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rV1giYzoo-c

Anyway all I have with DCCU so far is Zack Snyder style of action and visuals because I truly think if given the right material he can do wonders. I mean freakin Watchmen had great moments like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVUDdQS2UxA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YX5672Bn3BY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNXohNU3tWo

And the best part of BvS was the Climactic Battle with Doomsday I mean damn:

That part made me smile like glee. And I hope the extended cut had more of the fight in it.

 

[mduncan50]

Spoiler

Spoiler

I just wish this movie stayed with its dark roots of the first trailer but NOOOOOO people had to complain and the "bright colorful fun" police had to step in. (Looks at Kevin Smith)

Now I fear I am gonna have another Guardians of the Galaxy level of "humor" and thus its gonna be a very cringy screening for me

While I may not agree with your apparent dislike of GoG, I think you've perfectly illustrated why many up us don't have faith in it. WB/DC doesn't even appear to have faith in the product they set out to make, so why should we?

I HATED Guardians of the Galaxy.

It was Puerile, it was Corny, it was Childish, I could not take the charcarters seriously and they had to gall to try to bring tears in my eyes with Groot's death when his death was just a CopyPaste of the Iron Giant's death and then they brought him back to life anyway

And I don't care if it was meant to be that way because its tone is reflected in most of the Marvel Movie's universe, Don't believe me here is an artilce saying that Thor 3 will be "funnier" then Dark World:

http://screenrant.com/thor-3-ragnarok-director-taika-waititi-funnier/

And the reason why DC/WB is doing this Humorous tone because the "internet" in its echo chamber keeps saying that "these movies need more humor and levity"

In my eyes this is what the "internet" wants to turn my DC into:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erEeoLnnyS8

I assure you that we, the internet, would never do such a thing to 'your' DC.

We want to turn it into this.

No I don't want that either, I never liked Adam West Batman and I certainly would not like its offsprings.

What I want is more stuff like this:

Spoiler

Then I guess everyone involved just has to accept how disappointing the DCCU is shaping up. I would be stoked for a DCAU version too, or for a Bat vs Sup fight that was done a quarter as well as TDKR.

But you know what they say, wish in one hand and so on...

EDIT: And Brave and the Bold sources stuff that pre-dates Adam West's Batman, but I get your point. Strangely enough, the Brave and the Bold's Batman is fairly serious - Probably the only person in the series to be so. It's everyone else that's from the Super Friends.

The tone best captures the feel of late 70s, early 80s Batman, after he had become a more serious character but before any sense of fun was sucked out. And I know much of the show pulls from the Silver Age, I just mean the characterization of Batman himself.

 

[DefunctTheory]

Spoiler

Spoiler

Spoiler

I just wish this movie stayed with its dark roots of the first trailer but NOOOOOO people had to complain and the "bright colorful fun" police had to step in. (Looks at Kevin Smith)

Now I fear I am gonna have another Guardians of the Galaxy level of "humor" and thus its gonna be a very cringy screening for me

While I may not agree with your apparent dislike of GoG, I think you've perfectly illustrated why many up us don't have faith in it. WB/DC doesn't even appear to have faith in the product they set out to make, so why should we?

I HATED Guardians of the Galaxy.

It was Puerile, it was Corny, it was Childish, I could not take the charcarters seriously and they had to gall to try to bring tears in my eyes with Groot's death when his death was just a CopyPaste of the Iron Giant's death and then they brought him back to life anyway

And I don't care if it was meant to be that way because its tone is reflected in most of the Marvel Movie's universe, Don't believe me here is an artilce saying that Thor 3 will be "funnier" then Dark World:

http://screenrant.com/thor-3-ragnarok-director-taika-waititi-funnier/

And the reason why DC/WB is doing this Humorous tone because the "internet" in its echo chamber keeps saying that "these movies need more humor and levity"

In my eyes this is what the "internet" wants to turn my DC into:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erEeoLnnyS8

I assure you that we, the internet, would never do such a thing to 'your' DC.

We want to turn it into this.

No I don't want that either, I never liked Adam West Batman and I certainly would not like its offsprings.

What I want is more stuff like this:

Spoiler

Then I guess everyone involved just has to accept how disappointing the DCCU is shaping up. I would be stoked for a DCAU version too, or for a Bat vs Sup fight that was done a quarter as well as TDKR.

But you know what they say, wish in one hand and so on...

EDIT: And Brave and the Bold sources stuff that pre-dates Adam West's Batman, but I get your point. Strangely enough, the Brave and the Bold's Batman is fairly serious - Probably the only person in the series to be so. It's everyone else that's from the Super Friends.

Also you missed one more video that I posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rV1giYzoo-c

Anyway all I have with DCCU so far is Zack Snyder style of action and visuals because I truly think if given the right material he can do wonders. I mean freakin Watchmen had great moments like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVUDdQS2UxA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YX5672Bn3BY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNXohNU3tWo

And the best part of BvS was the Climactic Battle with Doomsday I mean damn:

That part made me smile like glee. And I hope the extended cut had more of the fight in it.

They should do an eye test on people who liked and hated BvS. Maybe the big difference is that the people who liked it have super vision, and could see through all the effects to view what was going on, while all the people who hated it just sat, dumbfounded by the haze of concrete dust and glow stick light.

Spoiler

Spoiler

Spoiler

I just wish this movie stayed with its dark roots of the first trailer but NOOOOOO people had to complain and the "bright colorful fun" police had to step in. (Looks at Kevin Smith)

Now I fear I am gonna have another Guardians of the Galaxy level of "humor" and thus its gonna be a very cringy screening for me

While I may not agree with your apparent dislike of GoG, I think you've perfectly illustrated why many up us don't have faith in it. WB/DC doesn't even appear to have faith in the product they set out to make, so why should we?

I HATED Guardians of the Galaxy.

It was Puerile, it was Corny, it was Childish, I could not take the charcarters seriously and they had to gall to try to bring tears in my eyes with Groot's death when his death was just a CopyPaste of the Iron Giant's death and then they brought him back to life anyway

And I don't care if it was meant to be that way because its tone is reflected in most of the Marvel Movie's universe, Don't believe me here is an artilce saying that Thor 3 will be "funnier" then Dark World:

http://screenrant.com/thor-3-ragnarok-director-taika-waititi-funnier/

And the reason why DC/WB is doing this Humorous tone because the "internet" in its echo chamber keeps saying that "these movies need more humor and levity"

In my eyes this is what the "internet" wants to turn my DC into:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erEeoLnnyS8

I assure you that we, the internet, would never do such a thing to 'your' DC.

We want to turn it into this.

No I don't want that either, I never liked Adam West Batman and I certainly would not like its offsprings.

What I want is more stuff like this:

Spoiler

Then I guess everyone involved just has to accept how disappointing the DCCU is shaping up. I would be stoked for a DCAU version too, or for a Bat vs Sup fight that was done a quarter as well as TDKR.

But you know what they say, wish in one hand and so on...

EDIT: And Brave and the Bold sources stuff that pre-dates Adam West's Batman, but I get your point. Strangely enough, the Brave and the Bold's Batman is fairly serious - Probably the only person in the series to be so. It's everyone else that's from the Super Friends.

The tone best captures the feel of late 70s, early 80s Batman, after he had become a more serious character but before any sense of fun was sucked out. And I know much of the show pulls from the Silver Age, I just mean the characterization of Batman himself.

That's kind of what I meant. The universe of the show is from the uber silly age, and Batman is from a newer era, playing the straight man for everyone else, particularly Aquaman, who's so silly he's barely tolerated by Batman, or most anyone else really.

 

[mduncan50]

That part made me smile like glee. And I hope the extended cut had more of the fight in it.

They should do an eye test on people who liked and hated BvS. Maybe the big difference is that the people who liked it have super vision, and could see through all the effects to view what was going on, while all the people who hated it just sat, dumbfounded by the haze of concrete dust and glow stick light.

I actually felt that this picture encapsulates everything that bothered me about this movie, if only we could see Lex and Lois having a slapfight in the background. But here we have the dark and self-serious tone, murky visuals, the ultimately joyless Superman, a scrawny Wonder Woman with a dead look in her eyes, and Batman and his (&$^ing gun. Affleck and Gadot were actually the best parts of the movie in my opinion, but this picture manages to showcase the worst faults with their characters.

 

[Nigh Invulnerable]

As well made as that looks, I can't shake the feeling that Suicide Squad is going to be a corporate attempt at spontaneity. Like they're ticking a series of boxes and dressing it up in packaging they think is what the kids want these days. There are flashes of a good movie in there, but it wouldn't be the first movie to put its best and only good foot forward in the trailer and hope the dregs of a decent film trick people into seeing the thing. It's just a bad feeling I have.

Maybe we're just getting old (or at least I am anyway, 33 here) but I agree with you 100%. This movie looks formulaic to the point of detriment. Sure, Marvel has a formula down and sometimes it doesn't work so well, but they seem to better grasp the ideas of story and character archetype with a flair for a bit of humor and heart far better than WB and DC do in their movies. I also can't help but think that most of the cast, particularly Harley and Joker, seem like Hot Topic rejects with their costume and design. Fanboys may accuse me of ignorance of the source material the movie references, but there are what, 80 years of Joker? Why the hell would I keep up on all of that?

Final and unrelated point: Will Smith.....just no. He's too much his own brand (for lack of a better word) and I basically forget that he's whatever character he's supposed to be portraying. This basically feels like the Fresh Prince got a bit older and cynical, then went back to Philly with a lot of firepower to teach those bullies what for. Ugh.

 

[scw55]

Final and unrelated point: Will Smith.....just no. He's too much his own brand (for lack of a better word) and I basically forget that he's whatever character he's supposed to be portraying. This basically feels like the Fresh Prince got a bit older and cynical, then went back to Philly with a lot of firepower to teach those bullies what for. Ugh.

I do agree that some actors are distracting. I had this experience when I watched the Imitation Game with Tywin Lanister and Bilbo Baggins. But the most criminally out of place was Psychic Cop from Heroes being in Star Wars. Will Smith looks like he is acting as someone else, but not acting enough that I forget he is acting.

 

[Nigh Invulnerable]

Final and unrelated point: Will Smith.....just no. He's too much his own brand (for lack of a better word) and I basically forget that he's whatever character he's supposed to be portraying. This basically feels like the Fresh Prince got a bit older and cynical, then went back to Philly with a lot of firepower to teach those bullies what for. Ugh.

I do agree that some actors are distracting. I had this experience when I watched the Imitation Game with Tywin Lanister and Bilbo Baggins. But the most criminally out of place was Psychic Cop from Heroes being in Star Wars. Will Smith looks like he is acting as someone else, but not acting enough that I forget he is acting.

Precisely. I find that Marvel has largely managed to cast the right actors for the right roles. RDJ is Iron Man/Tony Stark, Mark Ruffalo manages to capture some genuine conflict in Bruce Banner/Hulk, Sam Jackson is a bit recursive since he was the basis for the Ultimate Nick Fury anyway and now is playing him....but it works! Henry Cavill as Superman? Meh, he doesn't get to show off his acting chops a whole lot in these films. Affleck as Batman was probably one of the better choices DC has made. Leto as Joker? I'm still really apprehensive about that one, as he seems to be trying waaaaaay too hard to be "edgy" or something. It's similar to Pixar vs Dreamworks animated films. I find (usually) that Pixar casts for a voice that fits the character and not just to have a celebrity (or they write the characters very clearly with a specific voice/actor in mind) where as Dreamworks is all "It's Mike Meyers, Eddie Murphy, and Cameron Diaz!!!!!!! BE EXCITED!!!!"

 

[Auron225]

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This thread has more pessimism than BvS ever did. I for one will not be a Negative Nancy. I proudly proclaim I like what I saw.

I was gonna say the same thing. Holy crap, is it not exhausting to be this cynical all the time?

Of course not. And it's kind of weird that people don't realize why so much pessimism is attached to this thread, particularly in relation to BvS.

The reason people are more wary of this film then they were of BvS (Not that there wasn't doubt in that project as well) is because BvS only had one previous movie. It's kind of hard to say with absolute certainty that if you dislike one thing, you'll dislike all that follows. But then BvS came, and now we have two movies to hold up as an example for what this could be, and it's not good. At best, there's one movie that 90% of us can use to predict what this film will be like (Bad). At worst, some (Most) people here hated both of them, so now they're doubly sure, based off of our current sample, that this is going to be a mess. And that's not even going into the trailers (Which a lot of people don't like obviously).

What do you people want from it? What was this trailer (or the other trailers for that matter) missing?

A sign that it was well casted. Costumes that aren't the most visually boring ever produced for these characters. A hint of a soul behind the production. Something to confirms that Will Smith isn't playing as Will Smith. Anything that make's me think 'Wow, this really reminds me of how good DC can be,' rather then 'Wow, this reminds me of how good DC used to be.' Evidence of a coherent plot, instead of some sort of mash up between Batman, Harley/Joker flash backs, and whatever the hell Suicide Squad is up to.

Any of the above would be nice.

Heaven forfend they use humour or f*cking background music (like every other trailer since the beginning of time) to try and sell what they have. It's not a sign of weakness, it's just good old fashioned marketing. Humour was something sorely lacking from BvS; I know DC wanted dank, dark and gritty but I for one cannot take 150 minutes of it without getting suicidal by the end of it.

The problem is that we're (Or at least I am) getting the distinct impression that Suicide Squad isn't about humor and nostalgic music. That those two things are actually aftermarket bolt-on features added to distinguish it from the painfully bad BvS, but that it's core, once you cut away all that frivolous garbage, it's still the same dull, boring, ultra dark DC crap.

I think this looks at the very least entertaining.

Fair enough. A lot of us don't.

I like the look of Leto's Joker and Robbie's Harley Quinn

Ick.

Well, there you go, now you know why 'we' don't like it. It's fair enough if you do, but it would be appreciated if you didn't act like these trailers are objectively good.

Holy Wall-of-Text, Batman!

It seems a bit unfair to call this a failure because BvS didn't do well. I don't think anyone was really that surprised that it didn't do well; the trailers for BvS were an honest representation of what the movie was going to be. If you like ceaseless brooding, this is the movie for you. If not, then you're only going to see it out of curiosity or to prove a point. SS on the other hand, seems to have elected to remove the stick from its ass and not take itself so seriously, which can only serve to improve it.

Name whoever you want to replace each and every cast member, but I'm afraid you have no way of proving that your choices would have worked better than what they went with. Also, remember when the internet had a seizure that someone had the gall to get Ben Affleck to play Batman? Well even the most damning reviews of BvS admitted that he may have been the best thing in that movie, awful as it was otherwise. Not gonna dispute Will Smith though - as I said, it also seemed to me to be holding this movie back.

Not that I was calling the trailer "objectively good" (I'll get to that soon), but if you're going to wag your finger at me for that then it's a bit rich for you to call the actors objectively badly-picked or the costumes objectively boring. Maybe I'm unimaginative but I don't know what you wanted with the costumes other than more nonsense attached to them. They're already the types of get-ups that would turn heads walking down the street, do they really need to be anime-levels of wtf?

You know the first official trailer (complete with humour and bohemian rhapsody) was out months before BvS premiered, right? DC themselves must have had good foresight or been real pessimistic (or both) to see that BvS wouldn't do well (for being too depressing) and set in motion the marketing to prevent turning people away from this. OR... it's what they intended from much earlier on? And I guess if you were to cut away all the frivolous garbage (like humous and music) then yeah it would be the same old dark DC crap. What point are you trying to make? That if you take away the funny, it's not funny anymore? Umm, yeah I guess you're right.

Again, I wasn't heralding this trailer as objectively good or trying to personally promise that the movie will be good. I'm just saying that I think people are taking their bitterness from BvS and using it to unfairly judge this trailer for things that all trailers do everywhere all the time, when it seems to be doing the polar opposite of what BvS every tried to do.

 

[scw55]

Final and unrelated point: Will Smith.....just no. He's too much his own brand (for lack of a better word) and I basically forget that he's whatever character he's supposed to be portraying. This basically feels like the Fresh Prince got a bit older and cynical, then went back to Philly with a lot of firepower to teach those bullies what for. Ugh.

I do agree that some actors are distracting. I had this experience when I watched the Imitation Game with Tywin Lanister and Bilbo Baggins. But the most criminally out of place was Psychic Cop from Heroes being in Star Wars. Will Smith looks like he is acting as someone else, but not acting enough that I forget he is acting.

Precisely. I find that Marvel has largely managed to cast the right actors for the right roles. RDJ is Iron Man/Tony Stark, Mark Ruffalo manages to capture some genuine conflict in Bruce Banner/Hulk, Sam Jackson is a bit recursive since he was the basis for the Ultimate Nick Fury anyway and now is playing him....but it works! Henry Cavill as Superman? Meh, he doesn't get to show off his acting chops a whole lot in these films. Affleck as Batman was probably one of the better choices DC has made. Leto as Joker? I'm still really apprehensive about that one, as he seems to be trying waaaaaay too hard to be "edgy" or something. It's similar to Pixar vs Dreamworks animated films. I find (usually) that Pixar casts for a voice that fits the character and not just to have a celebrity (or they write the characters very clearly with a specific voice/actor in mind) where as Dreamworks is all "It's Mike Meyers, Eddie Murphy, and Cameron Diaz!!!!!!! BE EXCITED!!!!"

I don't get excited for voice actors, unless they're from Bioware games. Jennifer Hale, Garrus, Morrigan etc... Dorian <3<3<3

 

[Samtemdo8_v1legacy]

That part made me smile like glee. And I hope the extended cut had more of the fight in it.

They should do an eye test on people who liked and hated BvS. Maybe the big difference is that the people who liked it have super vision, and could see through all the effects to view what was going on, while all the people who hated it just sat, dumbfounded by the haze of concrete dust and glow stick light.

I actually felt that this picture encapsulates everything that bothered me about this movie, if only we could see Lex and Lois having a slapfight in the background. But here we have the dark and self-serious tone, murky visuals, the ultimately joyless Superman, a scrawny Wonder Woman with a dead look in her eyes, and Batman and his (&$^ing gun. Affleck and Gadot were actually the best parts of the movie in my opinion, but this picture manages to showcase the worst faults with their characters.

They are facing Doomsday of course they would have faces like this.

Wonder Woman for the most part has always been scrawny I mean fof goodness' sake look at her in the Animated Cartoon:

And what the hell is Batman gonna do if he did not have that Kryptonite Gas Launcher? Try to use Bat Ropes on his legs? Yeah that is certainly gonna stop Doomsday.

And the part was exciting the background music got me pumped with hype:

 

[mduncan50]

I don't think anyone was really that surprised that it didn't do well; the trailers for BvS were an honest representation of what the movie was going to be. If you like ceaseless brooding, this is the movie for you. If not, then you're only going to see it out of curiosity or to prove a point.

Seriously? At the point we're at now, if you say Dawn of Justice was a disappointment, or wasn't that good you will get people angrily calling you a Marvel fan-boy or a shill for the critic conspiracy that's trying to convince people this modern work of art is anything less than perfect, and that's just what you get from the people that are still ble to form sentences despite the amount of foaming at the mouth they are doing.

 

[Bob_McMillan]

Wonder Woman for the most part has always been scrawny I mean fof goodness' sake look at her in the Animated Cartoon:

That is possibly the worst example you could have used. Sure, her waist is impossibly thin, but that's just Bruce Timm's favored art style.

Look at Wonder Woman compared to the rest of the super-heroines in this vid from JLU, it is pretty obvious that Wonder Woman is meant to be a big ass woman. Her torso is bigger, her biceps are bigger, and she is pretty damn tall.

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And we haven't even gotten into the comics. She is always drawn as a tall, muscularly built woman. Well, at least in the good ones.

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http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ3W5668DdB5UisMrFuLf3GbHSD-ZQqQCa00p2pyNQWn9uAvyT7
http://www.writeups.org/img/inset/Simone_Wonder_Woman_h0.jpg

EDIT: But yes, her theme song is awesome. I listen to it everyday.

 

[DefunctTheory]

Spoiler

That part made me smile like glee. And I hope the extended cut had more of the fight in it.

They should do an eye test on people who liked and hated BvS. Maybe the big difference is that the people who liked it have super vision, and could see through all the effects to view what was going on, while all the people who hated it just sat, dumbfounded by the haze of concrete dust and glow stick light.

I actually felt that this picture encapsulates everything that bothered me about this movie, if only we could see Lex and Lois having a slapfight in the background. But here we have the dark and self-serious tone, murky visuals, the ultimately joyless Superman, a scrawny Wonder Woman with a dead look in her eyes, and Batman and his (&$^ing gun. Affleck and Gadot were actually the best parts of the movie in my opinion, but this picture manages to showcase the worst faults with their characters.

They are facing Doomsday of course they would have faces like this.

Wonder Woman for the most part has always been scrawny I mean fof goodness' sake look at her in the Animated Cartoon:

Spoiler

Unfortunately, what works in a cartoon where there are about 2 defined body types per sex doesn't often translate well into live action. I personally found Wonder Woman to look a bit light, and I found it a bit hard to suspend my disbelief that a woman who's half an inch away from super model dimensions was able to keep up with Doomsday.

Perhaps if the movie wasn't so dead set on being grounded, or was better executed, or more visually interesting, I wouldn't have cared. But it was none of those things to me, so my mind gets to wander from bizarre looking thing to bizarre looking thing.

Ideally, they could have gotten someone who at least looked strong.

And what the hell is Batman gonna do if he did not have that Kryptonite Gas Launcher? Try to use Bat Ropes on his legs? Yeah that is certainly gonna stop Doomsday.

All that really shows is how strange it is to pick a Superman version who can bench press a sun for the movies, because at that point only Wonder Woman and the Flash (And maybe Aquaman, I dunno which version they're going with besides Badass) can keep up, and everyone else (Batman and Cyborg at this point) has to just piss around and hope they don't get smeared by the physical god of the week.

And the part was exciting the background music got me pumped with hype:

Spoiler

I'm starting to wonder if we're even in the same species. There's obviously a wide range of visual and audible preferences inside of the human race, but it seems like everything I find offensive to the senses you find inspiring and pleasing. Am I even human? Maybe that's the issue here.

It's getting really weird.

 

[Samtemdo8_v1legacy]

Spoiler

That part made me smile like glee. And I hope the extended cut had more of the fight in it.

They should do an eye test on people who liked and hated BvS. Maybe the big difference is that the people who liked it have super vision, and could see through all the effects to view what was going on, while all the people who hated it just sat, dumbfounded by the haze of concrete dust and glow stick light.

I actually felt that this picture encapsulates everything that bothered me about this movie, if only we could see Lex and Lois having a slapfight in the background. But here we have the dark and self-serious tone, murky visuals, the ultimately joyless Superman, a scrawny Wonder Woman with a dead look in her eyes, and Batman and his (&$^ing gun. Affleck and Gadot were actually the best parts of the movie in my opinion, but this picture manages to showcase the worst faults with their characters.

They are facing Doomsday of course they would have faces like this.

Wonder Woman for the most part has always been scrawny I mean fof goodness' sake look at her in the Animated Cartoon:

Spoiler

Unfortunately, what works in a cartoon where there are about 2 defined body types per sex doesn't often translate well into live action. I personally found Wonder Woman to look a bit light, and I found it a bit hard to suspend my disbelief that a woman who's half an inch away from super model dimensions was able to keep up with Doomsday.

Perhaps if the movie wasn't so dead set on being grounded, or was better executed, or more visually interesting, I wouldn't have cared. But it was none of those things to me, so my mind gets to wander from bizarre looking thing to bizarre looking thing.

Ideally, they could have gotten someone who at least looked strong.

And what the hell is Batman gonna do if he did not have that Kryptonite Gas Launcher? Try to use Bat Ropes on his legs? Yeah that is certainly gonna stop Doomsday.

All that really shows is how strange it is to pick a Superman version who can bench press a sun for the movies, because at that point only Wonder Woman and the Flash (And maybe Aquaman, I dunno which version they're going with besides Badass) can keep up, and everyone else (Batman and Cyborg at this point) has to just piss around and hope they don't get smeared by the physical god of the week.

And the part was exciting the background music got me pumped with hype:

Spoiler

I'm starting to wonder if we're even in the same species. There's obviously a wide range of visual and audible preferences inside of the human race, but it seems like everything I find offensive to the senses you find inspiring and pleasing. Am I even human? Maybe that's the issue here.

It's getting really weird.

So you basically called me inhuman for liking a music track that you hate

My music taste varies. I love me some traditional classical music:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ihPGketlQA&list=PLZ-UX2ux7q9ETty2hET3AU-7Eh6EwRBFP

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3_ew_pvPXE

I love me some Heavy Metal (Perticularly Thrash Metal)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePEFBxDGRw8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MRtdd3tXI4

I like me some old school Blues and Jazz like these:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5c1dlC8SHwM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzvlivbptXk

I just like the track that the Wonder Woman part of the movie plays.

 

[DefunctTheory]

Spoiler

Spoiler

That part made me smile like glee. And I hope the extended cut had more of the fight in it.

They should do an eye test on people who liked and hated BvS. Maybe the big difference is that the people who liked it have super vision, and could see through all the effects to view what was going on, while all the people who hated it just sat, dumbfounded by the haze of concrete dust and glow stick light.

I actually felt that this picture encapsulates everything that bothered me about this movie, if only we could see Lex and Lois having a slapfight in the background. But here we have the dark and self-serious tone, murky visuals, the ultimately joyless Superman, a scrawny Wonder Woman with a dead look in her eyes, and Batman and his (&$^ing gun. Affleck and Gadot were actually the best parts of the movie in my opinion, but this picture manages to showcase the worst faults with their characters.

They are facing Doomsday of course they would have faces like this.

Wonder Woman for the most part has always been scrawny I mean fof goodness' sake look at her in the Animated Cartoon:

Spoiler

Unfortunately, what works in a cartoon where there are about 2 defined body types per sex doesn't often translate well into live action. I personally found Wonder Woman to look a bit light, and I found it a bit hard to suspend my disbelief that a woman who's half an inch away from super model dimensions was able to keep up with Doomsday.

Perhaps if the movie wasn't so dead set on being grounded, or was better executed, or more visually interesting, I wouldn't have cared. But it was none of those things to me, so my mind gets to wander from bizarre looking thing to bizarre looking thing.

Ideally, they could have gotten someone who at least looked strong.

And what the hell is Batman gonna do if he did not have that Kryptonite Gas Launcher? Try to use Bat Ropes on his legs? Yeah that is certainly gonna stop Doomsday.

All that really shows is how strange it is to pick a Superman version who can bench press a sun for the movies, because at that point only Wonder Woman and the Flash (And maybe Aquaman, I dunno which version they're going with besides Badass) can keep up, and everyone else (Batman and Cyborg at this point) has to just piss around and hope they don't get smeared by the physical god of the week.

And the part was exciting the background music got me pumped with hype:

Spoiler

I'm starting to wonder if we're even in the same species. There's obviously a wide range of visual and audible preferences inside of the human race, but it seems like everything I find offensive to the senses you find inspiring and pleasing. Am I even human? Maybe that's the issue here.

It's getting really weird.

So you basically called me inhuman for liking a music track that you hate

Or, you know...

Am I even human?

Other way round.

 

[Lightknight]

Wow, that wasn't arrogantly condescending at all. No I wasn't talking New 52, because that reboot is a joke that fucked up so many characters, Harley among them, and none of that matters because of course DC reboots everything every few years anyways.

Oh, then maybe you should have mentioned that you are entirely and arbitrarily dismissing significant mainstream versions of Harley Quinn including the Harley from the Suicide Squad who is nearly identical to the movie version if not even less appropriately dressed. Had I known we were debating within the parameters of your own personal universe of rules then I would have just jumped straight to the fact that she looks like the Quinn in the Suicide Squad which the movie is about regardless of your own personal rejection of mainstream outfits.

I mean, instead of that you just said, "You can find pictures of a clown in less clothes than she started with, but nothing close to the Whoreley Quinn that we're being presented with here." which is of course bullshit. Calling you on said bullshit isn't arrogance. It's literally posting evidence that is clearly to the contrary.

Here she is after last year's Convergence reboot event.

Oh, look at that, you found a convergence version where she isn't sexy. I'll raise you another convergence Harley:

http://www.comicbookresources.com/imgsrv/preview/150/0/1/CONV-Cv1-Open-Order-var-236dc.jpg

Even in 2015 you have the miniseries where she's with Power Girl.

http://nerdist.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/HARLEY_11_4-5.jpg

You should see the cover of issue 5... the bikini top cover...

It must have been nice for you to see her return to the old costume. But that was incredibly short lived.

I'm well aware that characters are going to change over time, for better or worse based on the people writing and drawing the stories. And I have no doubt that someone will, if they haven't already, start making her outfits skimpier and skimpier again, because lets face it, that's what sells when you have nothing else to contribute to a female character.

That being said, other than the name, there is absolutely nothing about the Harley Quinn of the movie that I see as similar to the comic character. She's not psycho crazy, she's co-ed "Ooh, I just had half of a wine cooler, and I am so kookie cray cray" crazy. Hell, she doesn't even look like a harlequin.

She is literally the Harley Quinn of the comic book because she is the Harlequin of the Suicide Squad which looks exactly like this only with even less clothes on top. That picture I posted in my previous post to you where she's got the loosening leather corset and boyshorts on? That's the character this one was based off of.

I mean, you're right that she doesn't look like all versions of Harley Quinn. But she does look like the Suicide Squad version which is what this one is.