Next Fallout: Ideas?

[C-Mag]

SNIPPERS!

I understand that the Resource Wars are pretty heavily embedded in the canon, but in my opinion, that's what WRITERS are for. I really don't think a London setting should be dismissed out of hand when it has so much going for it. It would be a challenge to create it while working around what's already in canon, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't at least TRY. And if it doesn't yield results, if there is literally no way to create a Fallout: London that fits in the world, THEN it can be scrapped. Just please don't reject it because it threatens the purity of the story, if it's a great idea then try to work it INTO the world!

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MUCH READING DONE
After reading as much as possible on the fallout wiki, this is the extent of the description of the destruction of Europe:
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The European-Middle Eastern War ends as the oil fields in the Middle East run dry. There is no longer a goal in the conflict, and both sides are reduced almost to ruin.

The European Commonwealth dissolves into quarreling nation states, fighting over the remaining resources
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Now that might be a condensed version, but if not....

What is that?! That leaves tons of room to create a story! There's so much space for creation in that description a herd of elephants could stampede through and not even touch the walls. I mean, for one thing, "almost to ruin" is VERY ambiguous; what would you consider 'ruin' to be? The wasteland? Something worse? Something better? And I don't think they were that badly beaten if they still considered themslves as Nation States and can fight each other in an organised manner.

Furthermore, the Great War only resulted in the large scale bombing of the major powers. With Britain quickly turning into a wasteland it might have gotten off relatively unharmed, and then been killed as a coherent nation by the nuclear winter. Hell, Britain could have retreated into itself and put its final resources into anti-nuke measures (like NV).

As long as the information is that ambiguous, a Fallout game set in England would be piss easy to fit into the canon. If there is more information than that; link it to me, and I'll have a serious go at working it in. If not, then you sir, have been greatly over exaggerating.

 

[Hristo Tzonkov]

The Chicago area of Fallout Tactics.But you know with a revisited plot more in canon.Would be nice to see the BOS trying out new stuff like allowing new members from tribes,helping stabilize regions etc.

Another thing I want to see is a big ruined city(doesn't matter much).DC was nice but cmon it was 1 plaza after 1 metro after another.The Hospital->Hotel bit with Reilly's Rangers was epic and should be explored more.

The Mojave desert's story is pretty much finalised.And continuing from there would need it to enforce some canon which would break the choice system.

 

[gewata]

To all those people saying that a Fallout game set in England would be impossible because of the resource wars and general survival rates:

1) There is nothing in the timeline or canon that says Vault-Tec was a purely US oriented corporation. It could just as easily have been contracted by the governments of European or Asian governments to build the vaults (but maybe not for the purposes of experimentation, as the Enclave is only in the states).

2) It is entirely possible that the resource wars had few nuclear exchanges and was a traditional military war. According to the time-line, the only nuclear devices that went off were 1 terrorist weapon in Tel Aviv and a short exchange in the middle east. As Britain is a long way from the Middle East, it is quite feasaible that the only radiation that hit the country was from the great war, and it is in a similar condition to America. In fact, the canon states the countries were still going after the resource wars were concluded.

3) How likely is it that nuclear bombs were targeted on small villages miles from anywhere? There are still likely survivors even if there were no vaults and the resouce wars were fully nuclear, even if it was just a few scattered communities living in caves and out-of-the way villages, 200+ years is a long time for the population to regrow (potentially more than 10 generations) and recolonise the cities. And there are still ghouls.

 

[Daddy Go Bot]

Even if a Fallout game could take place in another country, it would totally destroy the whole concept of Fallout. Go play Metro 2033 or some other nonsense like that.

Also, keep Bethesda the fuck away from Fallout. They're not competent enough to handle such a delicate franchise.

 

[Elfgore]

Some winter enviroment. They have done the desert and a urban area... So how about a winter wasteland. Transportation can be sled dogs.

 

[Xaio30]

My vote goes to London. Fallout is best in a city environment, but it would be nice to see it outside of America.

 

[Togs]

Just dont let Obsidian do it.

Please?

 

[knight steel]

Ultra mega snip

How about Australia ^_^ it far away enough from other countries that it wouldn't be destroyed in the nuclear bombings but close enough to get irradiated.And think about all the new and interesting creatures and places!

 

[ChupathingyX]

I understand that the Resource Wars are pretty heavily embedded in the canon, but in my opinion, that's what WRITERS are for. I really don't think a London setting should be dismissed out of hand when it has so much going for it. It would be a challenge to create it while working around what's already in canon, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't at least TRY. And if it doesn't yield results, if there is literally no way to create a Fallout: London that fits in the world, THEN it can be scrapped. Just please don't reject it because it threatens the purity of the story, if it's a great idea then try to work it INTO the world!

The last time someone tryed to create a new world in Fallout while going against certain aspects of established lore...we got Fallout 3. That game defiled the purity of the story and turned it into a big joke with stupid places like Little Lamplight.

So no, it is better not to risk screwing up lore for the sake of a possible good story. Plus by being set in a different country it just wouldn't be Fallout anymore.

 

[Flashman415]

How about having a Fallout that takes place in Russia?

Oh wait... Metro 2033...

dude Russia is already in a post apocalyptic setting they should just make Russia the game

 

[Sakeretsu]

As far as i know Allistair Tenpenny in FO3 is British so there is at least one survivor ,
so yeah loved to see Fallout in the Uk .
Plenty of reasons have already been exposed why it would be possible .

 

[ChupathingyX]

Ultra mega snip

How about Australia ^_^ it far away enough from other countries that it wouldn't be destroyed in the nuclear bombings but close enough to get irradiated.And think about all the new and interesting creatures and places!

The problem with Australia is that it would probably just end up being Mad Max: The Game, with mutants.

Which isn't necessarily a bad thing, but it just wouldn't be Fallout.

Personally I would just like Australia to be mentioned by someone or at least a newspaper article found in game that says something about Australia.

 

[ACman]

New Orleans?

Could be awesome. Swamps, Voodoo, southern accents, an inexplicably well preserved French Quarter.

Imagine a ravaged New Orleans where there is a standoff between those destroyed by disaster and those who are profiting,......

Oh.....

 

[Distorted Stu]

You know fallout France or Itally would be nice.


Lol @ the Doritos question

 

[ChupathingyX]

New Orleans?

Could be awesome. Swamps, Voodoo, southern accents, an inexplicably well preserved French Quarter.

Imagine a ravaged New Orleans where there is a standoff between those destroyed by disaster and those who are profiting,......

Oh.....

New Orleans could work.

And The Fallout series, such as New Vegas, do make references and parodies of real world politics and society and if you're referring to what I think you're referring to it could be a good point.

Although Fallout is a different universe so that particular event wouldn't have happened, but a similar story could be made.

 

[Saippua]

Northwest USA ~100 after the war.

 

[knight steel]

Ultra mega snip

How about Australia ^_^ it far away enough from other countries that it wouldn't be destroyed in the nuclear bombings but close enough to get irradiated.And think about all the new and interesting creatures and places!

The problem with Australia is that it would probably just end up being Mad Max: The Game, with mutants.

Which isn't necessarily a bad thing, but it just wouldn't be Fallout.

Personally I would just like Australia to be mentioned by someone or at least a newspaper article found in game that says something about Australia.

I don't know what mad Max is (a movie?)so i can't really comment on that . That being said i totally agree about the Australia references for the next game seeing as how Australia is not seen much in games and the fact that i have really crazy patriotic pride for my home ^_^.

 

[Sniper_430]

New york? I think a seriously thick city enviroment would be interesting, mabey have manhattan. But since the FO games always feature a large open enviroment i wouldnt be surpised if that idea didnt take off. besides that The mexico border would be kinda cool but im getting a bit bored with the deserts in every game. the forests of montana could be interesting (considering they didnt just burn away in the bombs).

Another time area would be sweet. mabey 50-60 years after FO:NV. Seeing humanity begin to properly rebuild and communicate with other continents would be awesome

 

[ChupathingyX]

Ultra mega snip

How about Australia ^_^ it far away enough from other countries that it wouldn't be destroyed in the nuclear bombings but close enough to get irradiated.And think about all the new and interesting creatures and places!

The problem with Australia is that it would probably just end up being Mad Max: The Game, with mutants.

Which isn't necessarily a bad thing, but it just wouldn't be Fallout.

Personally I would just like Australia to be mentioned by someone or at least a newspaper article found in game that says something about Australia.

I don't know what mad Max is (a movie?)so i can't really comment on that . That being said i totally agree about the Australia references for the next game seeing as how Australia is not seen much in games and the fact that i have really crazy patriotic pride for my home ^_^.

Wait, wait, wait...

You're Australian and you haven't seen Mad Max, let alone don't know what it is?

You must fix this...now.

 

[Sniper_430]

New Orleans?

Could be awesome. Swamps, Voodoo, southern accents, an inexplicably well preserved French Quarter.

Imagine a ravaged New Orleans where there is a standoff between those destroyed by disaster and those who are profiting,......

Oh.....

They did this in the FO:3 DLC called point lookout. even though it was set in if memory serves me right the swamps of virginia. still could be very cool once you mix in that political intrigue