North Korea Threatens War With US Over Seth Rogen Comedy

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OT: Ohhh yeah, ok guys. We believe you. Don't hurt us! That last threat really made us freak out! Look how it turned out?

... ~Wait, it didn't...? It what...? Huh...~ ... My informant told me they're full of shit. Breaking news!
 

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Given that Japan and South Korea (besides North Korea) would likely bear the brunt of a nuclear holocaust involving North Korea, it's more than a bit callous and cavalier for Americans to antagonize matters.

With nuclear war, it only takes one time. It doesn't matter that North Korea's primary motivation through having nuclear weapons is political and economic gain - nobody wanted a nuclear war during the cold war either and it almost happened. Everyone's reason for having nuclear weapons is political and economic gain.

Thankfully this forum is utterly irrelevant with respect to policy decisions so comments like "bring it, North Korea" won't be taken seriously by anyone.
 

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Karloff said:
'The comedy, which features a plot to assassinate Kim Jong Un, is described as "act of war that we will never tolerate,"'

If that isn't threatening war, I don't know what is.
I can't speak for how it reads in Korean, but in English calling something an "act of war" doesn't entail any specific threat. It is simply a claim to having been wronged, which might be considered grounds for a declaration of war but really doesn't have to be.

zerragonoss said:
I don't really see any invincible us military so much as people just saying we would steam roll north Korea in open war which is a historically supported fact.
There is no such thing as "open war".

Wars have military objectives. If you can't accomplish those objectives, you've lost. It doesn't matter how many people you kill in the process of losing, to assume it does is just pointless bloodlust. You'd think you'd all have learned this by now.

ecoho said:
Yeah guess what? that wasn't the militaries decision it was a politician who cant do simple math by the name of Obama and unlike Iraq, North Korea would just be folded back in with South Korea making the transition much easier.
Well, guess what. President Obama has this little honorary title called "Commander in Chief" which makes him the highest ranking person in the US military. So yes, it was the military's decision to pull out of Iraq, because in democratic countries the military is subordinate to democratically elected authorities.

This is part of what distinguishes a democratic country like the US from a country like North Korea, where unelected military officials get to make whatever decisions they want because they run the country.

Also, what the hell makes you think South Korea wants the financial, security and humanitarian burden of having to deal with 24 million people whose every waking moment has been spent learning to hate South Korea, and most of whom have military training?

I could also add that South Korea has a pretty horrible humanitarian record and was an outright dictatorship until the 80s.
 

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It's a sad state of affairs when Seth Rogan, James Franco, and the College Humor website do a better job of sticking up for the US with North Korea than our actual leadership.

Let's be frank, as much as people laugh at how impotent and ridiculous North Korea is, our leadership has continually backed down to this guy in front of the world. Obama puts down a line, Kim steps over it, nothing happens. When we can't deal with a joke like him it explains why we see China and Russia involved in territorial expansion and military build ups.

I'm sure this point won't be popular, but understand we're kind of the ones actually talking crap here, because we're the ones who have been backing down. I almost guarantee Obama probably has a couple of diplomats on the way, under the table or not, to kiss Kim's butt (one per cheek) because really, that's how we've treated this guy.

That said North Korea is still technically at war with South Korea (a US ally) and by extension the USA, as I believe Kim has pointed out on a few occasions, which means that his threat of declaring war is kind of stupid. I mean, is he going to do it again for good measure or something? The guy is a moron... but that just makes us look even worse by extension.

Ideally I'd like to see the US military erase North Korea, while on the domestic front Rodman gets clapped in irons and dropped at the bottom of some prison for having dealt with the guy the way he did (I think letting that go was wrong, and what's more made us both look weak and ridiculous, while doing even more to prop up Kim's attitude), but that's really not going to happen.

That said, I wish them luck with the movie, I may or may not see it at some point.
 

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rednightmare said:
Karloff said:
While the North Korean spokesman never refers to the film by name, it's clear from the context that Rogen's comedy is the one North Korea's having a tantrum over.
Are we sure of that? I mean, for all we know Kim Jong Un might be outraged that Bay is making a 4th Transformers movie.
Hell, I would be willing to go to war in order to stop Michael Bay making another Transformers movie. That right there, that is a just cause.

OT: This had made me smile. I don't usually see comedies at the cinema, I usually get them on DVD later, but just because they have managed to upset Kim Jong Un with this, they can sign me up in advance for a ticket on the opening weekend.
 

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BoogieManFL said:
If this is the kind of crap your government worries about, then you have some serious problems.
They're hoping it distracts people from their horrible human rights abuses, or that nobody takes them seriously as a nation.

Because "Come visit the World's largest concentration camp. It's so great you'll never be all....er, want to leave" isn't a great thing to be known for.
 

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North Korea threatening war with the United States over a comedy movie? This story itself feels like the plot of a comedy movie. Kim Jong Un is pretty much a walking joke.
 

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I don't know why people aren't taking North Korea more seriously as a threat. Just look at this footage of them testing their latest ballistic missile.

 

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The only this the demand for the movie not to be released actually does, is make me want to see the movie even more.

Well done NK for providing a level of PR that only a butthurt government can.

I will be seeing this at the cinema.... and I'll probably go more than once just out of spite, regardless of whether the movie bombs or not.
 

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Wait, the leader of a highly volatile nation that values censorship and obedience to the state over individual freedom takes offence to a comedy movie that pokes fun at the aforementioned people? You don't say!
 

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youji itami said:
C'mon North Korea please nuke California, I want to see modern full HD images of what happens at a nuke blast zone and it's not like anyone will care if California is turned into a crater.
As long as my final memory is of watching the Googleplex or the Facebook HQ explode before the radiation poisoning sets in, I'm more than down.
 

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This is exactly why I consider Homefront's premise an incredibly stupid one. It's not even funny.

I can dig giant robots, I can dig medieval fantasy, heck, I can even dig a freaking "god super sayain", but NK invading the US? (or anywhere else for that matter), beyond stupid.
 

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This is comedy gold, I can't help but laugh at almost everything about this scenario. This sounds like the set up for an episode of "The Adventures of Kim Jong Un".



Sigmund Av Volsung said:
Yes, North Korea and it's NaN of nukes.

The nation has devolved into the equivalent of an elderly housebound person, shaking it's stick at people and threatening them with it's rusted Blunderbuss if they don't comply.
I LOVE this paired with your avatar. Shine on you crazy diamond.
 

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well it does seem laughable but the threats aren't for america anyway they just rattle the saber in order for their own people to remain pacified and to make themselves appear more formidable and in control than they actually are.

they would never actually make any kind of military action because it would force china to stop sending aid and the united states to flatten them with a figurative cough of their military juggernaut
 

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Demagogue said:
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Jupiter065 said:
I'm having a hard time imagining something more tasteless than making a movie about assassinating a current world leader.
Thank you Jupiter065, I'm surprised by how many people on this thread don't have a problem with this. I saw the trailer for this a few days ago and thought it was in very poor taste. Making a comedy about the government-sponsored killing of a real named world leader (albeit a not very nice one) seems completely off.

Also it looked deeply unfunny.
This... If Iraq, Iran, or heck better yet... Putin were making a worldwide released movie about assassinate Obama (Or Bush for you Republicans) the US would lose their mind about it, and try to enforce an embargo with all of their allies.

ecoho said:
you know I usually avoid Seth Rogan movies but ill have to see this one if only to support people pissing off NK cause lets face it if they went to war with the US it wouldn't be a war it would be pest control. Also to all those thinking china will back NK think again they have too much money in the US to risk the whole "were at war now so we owe you nothing" decision that would come from the US the second they came in.
Umm... China has money in the US sure, but it has money in every nation. It wouldn't be a risk to China to go to war with the US. On the other hand probably a good 50-60% (I'm low balling) of the US consumer goods would dry up in a week because almost everything now days is made in China.

So it would be more like "we at war now... shit who's going to make all our stuff"
All our companies would move to Mexico and China would not be able to feed its people after about 6 months of no US trade so yeah kinda a big deal.
 

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North Korea needs to get over itself, Fidel Castro was both a villain in, and nearly killed in a game where you play as the character trying to kill him ( Call of Duty: Black Ops, for those wondering ), and his only response was to say that he only looked at the depiction as America still being bitter about not being able to kill him. Not once did him or his brother threaten the united states, or even say anything even remotely in the territory of saying they were threatened or insulted.
Though I assume this is just Kim going through the paces of covering his own ass, he looks like a wimp if he doesn't defend himself, he looks like a dictator if he does ( the latter isn't a huge loss for him since everyone already knows he's a dictator so I guess this is the most favourable option ). They already know they would never actually declare war, it's just like when Bethesda got on Notch's ass for making a game called Scrolls, they didn't actually think he was infringing on their copyright, they were just covering their asses so their copyright isn't compromised and they lose it.