London has one I think. I can understand why they're doing it, but the movement is a quarter honest protesters and three quarters complete idiots.
orangeban said:Democracy isn't about seeking out representatives in government. And that wouldn't even work, the protests are against the government, why would the government help them?
Democracy is about the people having a voice, being able to control their country. The occupiers are using their rights to voice their views. That is democracy.
Wikipedia said:Democracy is generally defined as a form of government in which all the people have an equal say in the decisions that affect their lives. Ideally, this includes equal (and more or less direct) participation in the proposal, development and passage of legislation into law.
According to the definition democracy implies that our voice is heard through the elected officials that we put into power. We elect people that will do what we want them to do for our economy and society as a whole, if they don't do what we want then we need to tell them and make sure not to elect them next time it comes to vote. These government officials are making decisions about our lives and we need to inform them of how we want our lives to be.Dictionary said:Government by the people; a form of government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised directly by them or by their elected agents under a free electoral system.
Well, they're protesting against both the market and the government. I don't really see your point, just because they aren't right outside the government's door, doesn't mean the government will ignore them.That_Sneaky_Camper said:orangeban said:Democracy isn't about seeking out representatives in government. And that wouldn't even work, the protests are against the government, why would the government help them?
Democracy is about the people having a voice, being able to control their country. The occupiers are using their rights to voice their views. That is democracy.Wikipedia said:Democracy is generally defined as a form of government in which all the people have an equal say in the decisions that affect their lives. Ideally, this includes equal (and more or less direct) participation in the proposal, development and passage of legislation into law.According to the definition democracy implies that our voice is heard through the elected officials that we put into power. We elect people that will do what we want them to do for our economy and society as a whole, if they don't do what we want then we need to tell them and make sure not to elect them next time it comes to vote. These government officials are making decisions about our lives and we need to inform them of how we want our lives to be.Dictionary said:Government by the people; a form of government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised directly by them or by their elected agents under a free electoral system.
You wanna know what Wall Street is? The main financial district for the United States of America, this is a protest against the market of the United States because that is where the major market decisions for our country are made. If they wanted to protest the government they should have parked outside in front of the White House or Congress.
Isn't this sadly becoming the norm with most demonstrations and protests now though? They always get hijacked by nutters and the real message gets lost.ultimateownage said:the movement is a quarter honest protesters and three quarters complete idiots.
What it is people have finally got sick of a system that favours the rich, and evaluates worth on financial income. So they're making a stand.Capitano Segnaposto said:Can you please tell me what "Occupy" is about? From what I gathered it is just a bunch of old Hippies and "Hipsters" (God I hate them, more so than the hippies). While the Hippies apparently want to change something, at least from what I gathered, the Hipsters are just doing it for the Irony or something of that sort.Redlin5 said:Are there any near you? There is one in the city close to the town I live in but its likely going to be disbanded due to snow/homeless people taking over the camp. It did move to a new location but I don't see it going that long. So far the police haven't really had to deal with them although recently fires were banned.
Any round your parts? Any violence or is it peaceful?
Was my evaluation correct or am I far off the mark?
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orangeban explained it pretty well although I find it disorganized and a bit fractured. There are also people just using it as an excuse to spout radical ideas rather than protest the economic system.Capitano Segnaposto said:SNIP
You don't understand Algebra but you want to go into engineering?Smagmuck_ said:I also plan on studying either Majoring in EngineeringIf I can wrap my head around Algebra or in Information Technologies.
I seriously doubt this. Many of my classmates have jobs, but they still have to get food stamps just so they can eat. Doesn't mean they're not trying."What was your occupation before deciding to protest?"
"I didn't have a job, I've been on Welfare since I moved out."
First, it's not like I can travel to a large city to see some of the real protesters, I'm sure a lot of them are quiet nice, albeit misinformed. I mean Jesus, the people here are dumber than a sack of rocks. And it's all I have to work with. It's like giving a blacksmith paper and telling him to make a battle ax of it.Hafrael said:I'm studying a liberal arts degree.
St. George's Square in Glasgow, though they're moving. All it was was about 100 punks (Leather, piercings etc.) looking for a place to piss around in, and a woman was raped in the "camp" (Which you could walk around in a minute).RuralGamer said:None up here in Scotland that I know of. Not surprising, because its dropping to nearly freezing every night at the moment.
Im really sorry to say this(and i mean no offence i promise), but you are exactly what is wrong with the world... You obviously have swallowed all the lies that the mainstream media has fed you. You are a smart person (you have a very well developed vocabulary, so i can somewhat tell) But you are VERY uninformed about the issue.Smagmuck_ said:Jarimir said:Oh well, one day you will realize how lucky you are to have what you have.Smagmuck_ said:There was one here in Yuma. The local PD shooed them away, no arrests made, no violence. Even though I did enjoy trolling the absolute shit out of them.
Feels good to be part of the "1%".
Seriously, if they had gotten their Major in something useful they wouldn't be complaining.
Or you will die (hopefully of old age) ignorant.
Lucky but ignorant.I will also say, that before enacting my counter-protest, I asked them some rather imprtent questions. Like...SonicKoala said:That attitude is almost as ignorant and willfully misinformed as the occupiers shouting about how their woes are solely a result of rich businessmen.Smagmuck_ said:Seriously, if they had gotten their Major in something useful they wouldn't be complaining.
What was your occupation before deciding to protest?
While you were in College what was your Major?
Do you understand how Capitalism works?
Do you own any sort of modern technology?
Now, here's a good example of why i find these people idiotic.
"What was your occupation before deciding to protest?"
<color=green>"I didn't have a job, I've been on Welfare since I moved out."
"While you were in College, what was your Major?"
<color=crimson>"Liberal Arts, there's no jobs for us. It's all because of the 1% pigs."
"You understand that Liberal Arts has been a dead Major for some time, right?"
<color=crimson>"No."
"Do you know how Capitalism works?"
<color=blue>"Capitalism? Isn't that what the Soviet Union was based off of?"
"Do you own any sort of modern technology?"
<color=red>"Yeah, I just bought an iPhone 4S yesterday."
Granted there were SOME people there for the right reasons, but the majority of them were just plain lazy. Now, either the people who live in my town are stupid idiots or this whole OWS movement is because college kids are too lazy to put some effort into a decent Major.
I also plan on studying either Majoring in EngineeringIf I can wrap my head around Algebra or in Information Technologies.