Poll: After today's big reveal, are you getting a Wii U?

[Nazulu]

Well I already was going to get one, but now I'm even more excited for it!

Before I was most interested in Monster Hunter Tri Ultimate and Pikmin 3, but now the new Xenoblade has captured my interest! I can't wait to hear more about it! I'm also really excited about the new Wind Waker HD, I've played the old one but I never owned it, so this is really exciting for me.

I already own one... I'm a little disappointed at how many people answered no on the poll but then again, the community of the Escapist has never been all that Nintendo friendly.

They really haven't been, have they? It's kinda depressing really. I come here and I see how negative people are and it's really disappointing.
So how do you like your Wii U?

The negativity of the Escapist seems to seep out the woodwork whenever Nintendo are involved in anything good.

Can't wait for when Nintendo wins E3 this year by having actual games and not just showing off weak PC's with brown/grey shooters!

Ordering mine as soon as my redundancy money clears.

Let me tell you right now that the negativity stems from the Wii and all it's flaws. A lot of people just don't trust them any more, with both hardware and games. The Wii really did that much damage to Nintendo's reputation.

I can honestly tell those people that the Wii U is definitely a big step up from the Wii in terms of hardware and software, and hopefully the library and main titles will improve as well.

I'm gonna wait just a bit longer, and also I need to save money again and some how make more room for my ever growing collection of consoles.

 

[GrimHeaper]

Well I already was going to get one, but now I'm even more excited for it!

Before I was most interested in Monster Hunter Tri Ultimate and Pikmin 3, but now the new Xenoblade has captured my interest! I can't wait to hear more about it! I'm also really excited about the new Wind Waker HD, I've played the old one but I never owned it, so this is really exciting for me.

I already own one... I'm a little disappointed at how many people answered no on the poll but then again, the community of the Escapist has never been all that Nintendo friendly.

They really haven't been, have they? It's kinda depressing really. I come here and I see how negative people are and it's really disappointing.
So how do you like your Wii U?

The negativity of the Escapist seems to seep out the woodwork whenever Nintendo are involved in anything good.

Can't wait for when Nintendo wins E3 this year by having actual games and not just showing off weak PC's with brown/grey shooters!

Ordering mine as soon as my redundancy money clears.

Let me tell you right now that the negativity stems from the Wii and all it's flaws. A lot of people just don't trust them any more, with both hardware and games. The Wii really did that much damage to Nintendo's reputation.

I can honestly tell those people that the Wii U is definitely a big step up from the Wii in terms of hardware and software, and hopefully the library and main titles will improve as well.

I'm gonna wait just a bit longer, and also I need to save money again and some how make more room for my ever growing collection of consoles.

Which I find funny considering the wii didn't actually have a flaw. Just people being graphic whores and not being able to adapt to very precise controls even before wii+.
Now that red ring of death that's a real flaw.

 

[The White Hunter]

Let me tell you right now that the negativity stems from the Wii and all it's flaws. A lot of people just don't trust them any more, with both hardware and games. The Wii really did that much damage to Nintendo's reputation.

I can honestly tell those people that the Wii U is definitely a big step up from the Wii in terms of hardware and software, and hopefully the library and main titles will improve as well.

I'm gonna wait just a bit longer, and also I need to save money again and some how make more room for my ever growing collection of consoles.

What flaws? They made a relatively weak system that was incredibly easy to develop for. It's not as powerful as it's HD brethern, no, but it has some fascinating games, some of the best of the generation, that people are willfully ignorant of because motion control is a "gimmick", even though most of the motion control is optional in the good games, or extremely well implemented.

Resident Evil 4 is best played on the wii because of the pinpoint accuracy, fantastic control and stellar porting job Capcom did. Games like Xenoblade would have tanked on the HD systems because of overblown budgets required to compete graphically. Sin & Punishment is easily one of the best shooters I've played in years, the Metroid Prime Trilogy is utterly fantastic.

It's hardly the best system ever made, but it has no crippling flaws besides a bunch of shovelware, which is something that's rampant on any system with that kind of install base. The PS2 library is loaded with it, as are the NES and SNES libraries.

From a pure gameplay standpoint the Wii was probably the most fun console of the last generation for me, but then I ignored that the shovelware existed and bought the gems that came out for it. Closest thing I have to shovelware is Mario Power Tennis, and that's a damn fun game.

Which I find funny considering the wii didn't actually have a flaw. Just people being graphic whores and not being able to adapt to very precise controls even before wii+.
Now that red ring of death that's a real flaw.

Yeah I think that's a bit of it, that and "Nintendo is for kids". Really, I found both Mario Galaxy games to be incredibly fun titles and both were pretty damn challenging at times. There's a difference between aiming things at children and having a pure experience that's accessible to anyone.

My only issue with the Wii is that I had to buy batteries for the controllers, but then I'd have to do that with an Xbox anyway. And the non-standard Pro controller made it hard for developers to provide that option, hence games like Goldeneye or Xenoblade shipping with special editions with a pro controller.

Incidentally, I'm no Nintendo fan boy, but I hardly think the Wii deserves to be decried for having a massive install base and attracting the shovelware that has been attracted to every top selling console through the industries history.

Waggle isn't a great complaint either, because in cases like Skyward Sword the control is very precise and if you don't master it, if you just waggle, you won't get past the first dungeon. Any game with shooting done well is a great example of motion done well, Sin & Punishment, Resident Evil 4, Metroid Prime Trilogy.

As for trudging out the same franchises, if you're tired of Nintendo's first party efforts then that's fine, perfectly acceptable. But to call Super Mario Galaxy tired and uncreative is ignorant. There may not be swathes of brand new ideas, but within the given formula Nintendo always takes creative liberties and does interesting and new things with most of their main console titles. The New Super Mario Bros franchise is pretty unoriginal, dipping often into the series enormous bag of tricks, but it's creative and delivers fresh and enjoyable gameplay experiences every time.

[I have far too much time on my hands here]

 

[Nazulu]

Which I find funny considering the wii didn't actually have a flaw. Just people being graphic whores and not being able to adapt to very precise controls even before wii+.
Now that red ring of death that's a real flaw.

*sigh*

Well you obviously ignored every single complaint about it. I'm not even going to bother if you didn't.

Let me tell you right now that the negativity stems from the Wii and all it's flaws. A lot of people just don't trust them any more, with both hardware and games. The Wii really did that much damage to Nintendo's reputation.

I can honestly tell those people that the Wii U is definitely a big step up from the Wii in terms of hardware and software, and hopefully the library and main titles will improve as well.

I'm gonna wait just a bit longer, and also I need to save money again and some how make more room for my ever growing collection of consoles.

What flaws? They made a relatively weak system that was incredibly easy to develop for. It's not as powerful as it's HD brethern, no, but it has some fascinating games, some of the best of the generation, that people are willfully ignorant of because motion control is a "gimmick", even though most of the motion control is optional in the good games, or extremely well implemented.

Resident Evil 4 is best played on the wii because of the pinpoint accuracy, fantastic control and stellar porting job Capcom did. Games like Xenoblade would have tanked on the HD systems because of overblown budgets required to compete graphically. Sin & Punishment is easily one of the best shooters I've played in years, the Metroid Prime Trilogy is utterly fantastic.

It's hardly the best system ever made, but it has no crippling flaws besides a bunch of shovelware, which is something that's rampant on any system with that kind of install base. The PS2 library is loaded with it, as are the NES and SNES libraries.

From a pure gameplay standpoint the Wii was probably the most fun console of the last generation for me, but then I ignored that the shovelware existed and bought the gems that came out for it. Closest thing I have to shovelware is Mario Power Tennis, and that's a damn fun game.

Alright, chill. I wasn't even expecting to explain any thing.

You have to except that not every one will agree it had the best games and that the Wii mote wasn't any thing more than a gimmick. Some of the main titles did force you to use the Wii mote and it's not a desired choice for all since it's not the type of controller you could just relax with (if you know what I mean).

If you can't do that for me then just forget it. I've had enough yelling wars on this site and I am sick of it.

 

[The White Hunter]

Alright, chill. I wasn't even expecting to explain any thing.

You have to except accept that not every one will agree it had the best games and that the Wii mote wasn't any thing more than a gimmick. Some of the main titles did force you to use the Wii mote and it's not a desired choice for all since it's not the type of controller you could just relax with (if you know what I mean).

If you can't do that for me then just forget it. I've had enough yelling wars on this site and I am sick of it.

I was perfectly calm, what in my post told you otherwise?.

I'm aware that not everyone will agree with that, and I can concede that some titles did force you to use a wii remote and nunchuk, but I've never encountered a game that required more than a flick of the wrist. It didn't have all the best games of the generation, it lacked things like Resistance 3 and the Arkham games, for example, but it did have some brilliant software put out in a variety of genres.

My main point was that there were plenty of good games and that the motion control is not necessarily a gimmick at all, it just has to be applied well. If everything is done via motion then you can bet your ass I won't enjoy playing the game, just like I won't enjoy a game of any depth that only uses a touch screen (for example, Phantom Hourglass).

I wasn't trying to say that the Wii was perfect, it did have shovelware in spades but it also had some brilliant games that people all too often ignore and overlook when discussing the console.

In hindsight it definately would have been for the best if the machine had shipped with a classic controller, and more of the great games had allowed for the use of different controllers. Twilight Princess in particularly should have allowed for a gamecube controller or classic controller to be used, it's the epitomy of senseless waggle, as opposed to Skyward Sword, where the motion controls were precise and intelligent.

I think Jim Sterling put it well when he said that alternative control inputs such as motion and touch surfaces are only a better option when they improve something over the traditional button or analog input. I.e. Swiping the screen to melee in Resistance Burning Skies is a pain, because it'd be faster and easier to use a button. Using motion for flying is something I dislike greatly, because I'd rather use a stick for it. Using the wii remote as a pointer in a game like Resident Evil 4 however, was beneficial, it made it easier to control and made your attacks more precise with minimal extra effort. Shaking the wii remote for a melee attack in an fps is a pain, because my hands are on the button, and it's reflexive to push the button for melee.

Red Steel 2 always frustrates me because the sword controls collide with the camera controls and for me they spoiled the experience.

(Playstation Move, now there's a gimmick.)

I'm not trying to have a yelling war with you, just an open discussion, I too despise having yelling wars on this site, it's why I've recently come to ignore any thread with "DMC" or "Devil May Cry" in the title.

I didn't intend to come over fanboyish or shouty, I apologise if I did, I just wanted to make clear that people shouldn't be totally ignorant of the entire system on preconceptions alone, they need to actually use it and seek out quality titles for it before judging it.

I also apologise for the walls of text, I'm quite good at them at the moment...

Edit: Basically, it's fine to have a prefered input, but new methods do take adjustment and people should give them a chance before writing them off entirely. Nintendo made mistakes with the Wii, they're trying not to with the Wii U, particularly in the online connectivity and control aspects.

 

[GrimHeaper]

Which I find funny considering the wii didn't actually have a flaw. Just people being graphic whores and not being able to adapt to very precise controls even before wii+.
Now that red ring of death that's a real flaw.

*sigh*

Well you obviously ignored every single complaint about it. I'm not even going to bother if you didn't.

Of course I did the same thing is going on with the wii U right now.
Hypocritical Nintendo hate for the most part.

Alright, chill. I wasn't even expecting to explain any thing.

You have to except ACCEPT that not every one will agree it had the best games and that the Wii mote wasn't any thing more than a gimmick. Some of the main titles did force you to use the Wii mote and it's not a desired choice for all since it's not the type of controller you could just relax with (if you know what I mean).

If you can't do that for me then just forget it. I've had enough yelling wars on this site and I am sick of it.

I was perfectly calm, what in my post told you otherwise?.

I'm aware that not everyone will agree with that, and I can concede that some titles did force you to use a wii remote and nunchuk, but I've never encountered a game that required more than a flick of the wrist. It didn't have all the best games of the generation, it lacked things like Resistance 3 and the Arkham games, for example, but it did have some brilliant software put out in a variety of genres.

My main point was that there were plenty of good games and that the motion control is not necessarily a gimmick at all, it just has to be applied well. If everything is done via motion then you can bet your ass I won't enjoy playing the game, just like I won't enjoy a game of any depth that only uses a touch screen (for example, Phantom Hourglass).

I wasn't trying to say that the Wii was perfect, it did have shovelware but it also had some brilliant games that people all too often ignore and overlook when discussing the console.

In hindsight it definately would have been for the best if the machine had shipped with a classic controller, and more of the great games had allowed for the use of different controllers. Twilight Princess in particularly should have allowed for a gamecube controller or classic controller to be used, it's the epitomy of senseless waggle, as opposed to Skyward Sword, where the motion controls were precise and intelligent.

Playstation Move, now there's a gimmick.

I'm not trying to have a yelling war with you, just an open discussion, I too despise having yelling wars on this site, it's why I've recently come to ignore any thread with "DMC" or "Devil May Cry" in the title.

Don't talk about DMC I'll start ranting
And yeah I haven't seen anything from the peripherals of the kinect or move that would even be considered past a 2.0
aside from a few move compatible games like killzone and that has nothing to do with the controller as so much the game itself. Though to be honest the wii,wii+ and move work pretty well for shooters.

 

[TheSapphireKnight]

Nope. Not hating on nintendo but I just have not really been taken with their home consoles for a while now. While it all sounds great now its the long terms support that has always been the problem. I'm sure all of those will be solid games but I can't really justify spending the money on such old(big box technology).

I have always enjoyed their portable stuff though so I am content with my 3DS.

 

[The White Hunter]

Don't talk about DMC I'll start ranting
And yeah I haven't seen anything from the peripherals of the kinect or move that would even be considered past a 2.0
aside from a few move compatible games like killzone and that has nothing to do with the controller as so much the game itself. Though to be honest the wii,wii+ and move work pretty well for shooters.

I enjoyed the new DMC for what it was, it's easy and all that, but it was fun and it didn't take away the old games from me. That's all I have to say on it.

MOve is good with Resistance & Killzone and such, but it's so poorly implemented in a lot of things and the controls for those games aren't really mapped out well. I also find that the vibration of the move controller is BEASTLY and does affect your playing, within 3 or 4 feet o the TV it's not so hot, where as the Wii motion + is usually fine with it.

Move could have been good if it had been implemented well into more games, it's a lot of fun to play House of the Dead with the Sharpshooter though if nothing else.

FPS games would benefit from motion controls if they had a system like Metroid Prime where you can lock the screen while you aim, or like Resi 4 where the pointer doesn't move the screen and the buttons do, though the latter is more appropriate for slower paced games than anything fast paced or competitive. I found that really helpful in MP3 as it prevented the need for tweaking dead zones for days on end.

Edit: I have no experience with Kinect to be honest so I can't really comment on it, from word of mouth it seems like it has huge potential but it's just not well advanced enough to reach it yet. Issues like input confusion seem to be an issue, much liek those I had with Red Steel 2 confusing my attempt at turning 180 degrees to quickly kill the thing behind me with slashing the air in front of me.

 

[WanderingFool]

Resident Evil Revelations
Injustice Gods Among Us

Only these two interest me, and unless somethings happened since, these two are also multi platform, so I can get them on the 360. So no, Im not getting a WiiU.

 

[Eternal_Lament]

No, even after the announcement I'm not interested in getting the console.

Only two games on that list seemed interesting: Injustice and Bayonetta 2. Problem is a) Injustice is already coming out for other consoles, and b) I'm not getting a console to play just one game on it. Everything else does not catch my attention, and at the current rate I doubt I'll ever get a WiiU. By the time some more interesting games would probably come out for it, the next Sony and Microsoft platforms will already be out, so I'd rather focus on those rather than with this.

 

[GrimHeaper]

Don't talk about DMC I'll start ranting
And yeah I haven't seen anything from the peripherals of the kinect or move that would even be considered past a 2.0
aside from a few move compatible games like killzone and that has nothing to do with the controller as so much the game itself. Though to be honest the wii,wii+ and move work pretty well for shooters.

I enjoyed the new DMC for what it was, it's easy and all that, but it was fun and it didn't take away the old games from me. That's all I have to say on it.

MOve is good with Resistance & Killzone and such, but it's so poorly implemented in a lot of things and the controls for those games aren't really mapped out well. I also find that the vibration of the move controller is BEASTLY and does affect your playing, within 3 or 4 feet o the TV it's not so hot, where as the Wii motion + is usually fine with it.

Move could have been good if it had been implemented well into more games, it's a lot of fun to play House of the Dead with the Sharpshooter though if nothing else.

FPS games would benefit from motion controls if they had a system like Metroid Prime where you can lock the screen while you aim, or like Resi 4 where the pointer doesn't move the screen and the buttons do, though the latter is more appropriate for slower paced games than anything fast paced or competitive. I found that really helpful in MP3 as it prevented the need for tweaking dead zones for days on end.

Edit: I have no experience with Kinect to be honest so I can't really comment on it, from word of mouth it seems like it has huge potential but it's just not well advanced enough to reach it yet. Issues like input confusion seem to be an issue, much liek those I had with Red Steel 2 confusing my attempt at turning 180 degrees to quickly kill the thing behind me with slashing the air in front of me.

I'll just tell ya kinect is pretty much garbage.
Complicated games don't work on it.
Sonic riders is also another bad one. If you thought waggle controls are bad ohohoho you haven't seen anything.

Nope. Not hating on nintendo but I just have not really been taken with their home consoles for a while now. While it all sounds great now its the long terms support that has always been the problem. I'm sure all of those will be solid games but I can't really justify spending the money on such old(big box technology).

I have always enjoyed their portable stuff though so I am content with my 3DS.

If you aren't into consoles and PC instead that's fine.
I tend to enjoy the portable's more than the consoles myself. They just get something more right more often.
Of coure this is the stuff I am talking about.

 

[The White Hunter]

I'll just tell ya kinect is pretty much garbage.
Complicated games don't work on it.
Sonic riders is also another bad one. If you thought waggle controls are bad ohohoho you haven't seen anything.

Nope. Not hating on nintendo but I just have not really been taken with their home consoles for a while now. While it all sounds great now its the long terms support that has always been the problem. I'm sure all of those will be solid games but I can't really justify spending the money on such old(big box technology).

I have always enjoyed their portable stuff though so I am content with my 3DS.

If you aren't into consoles and PC instead that's fine.
I tend to enjoy the portable's more than the consoles myself. They just get something more right more often.
Of coure this is the stuff I am talking about.

Blunty rants used as evidence on the Escapist? Now I really like you, I've already thrown out his Wii U review series on this very thread.

Yeah I heard Steel Battalion was like that, as for Sonic Riders... that game wasn't too h ot even without the motion control to be honest, though I do own both the PS2 iterations and find them, particularly the second one, to be enjoyable if nothing else.

It is next gen, it's just next gen in a different way, which is fine.

 

[Nazulu]

Which I find funny considering the wii didn't actually have a flaw. Just people being graphic whores and not being able to adapt to very precise controls even before wii+.
Now that red ring of death that's a real flaw.

*sigh*

Well you obviously ignored every single complaint about it. I'm not even going to bother if you didn't.

Of course I did the same thing is going on with the wii U right now.
Hypocritical Nintendo hate for the most part.

Well, it's not a good look. It makes you seem as ignorant as the people you call ignorant.

Alright, chill. I wasn't even expecting to explain any thing.

You have to except accept that not every one will agree it had the best games and that the Wii mote wasn't any thing more than a gimmick. Some of the main titles did force you to use the Wii mote and it's not a desired choice for all since it's not the type of controller you could just relax with (if you know what I mean).

If you can't do that for me then just forget it. I've had enough yelling wars on this site and I am sick of it.

I was perfectly calm, what in my post told you otherwise?.

I'm aware that not everyone will agree with that, and I can concede that some titles did force you to use a wii remote and nunchuk, but I've never encountered a game that required more than a flick of the wrist. It didn't have all the best games of the generation, it lacked things like Resistance 3 and the Arkham games, for example, but it did have some brilliant software put out in a variety of genres.

My main point was that there were plenty of good games and that the motion control is not necessarily a gimmick at all, it just has to be applied well. If everything is done via motion then you can bet your ass I won't enjoy playing the game, just like I won't enjoy a game of any depth that only uses a touch screen (for example, Phantom Hourglass).

I wasn't trying to say that the Wii was perfect, it did have shovelware in spades but it also had some brilliant games that people all too often ignore and overlook when discussing the console.

In hindsight it definately would have been for the best if the machine had shipped with a classic controller, and more of the great games had allowed for the use of different controllers. Twilight Princess in particularly should have allowed for a gamecube controller or classic controller to be used, it's the epitomy of senseless waggle, as opposed to Skyward Sword, where the motion controls were precise and intelligent.

I think Jim Sterling put it well when he said that alternative control inputs such as motion and touch surfaces are only a better option when they improve something over the traditional button or analog input. I.e. Swiping the screen to melee in Resistance Burning Skies is a pain, because it'd be faster and easier to use a button. Using motion for flying is something I dislike greatly, because I'd rather use a stick for it. Using the wii remote as a pointer in a game like Resident Evil 4 however, was beneficial, it made it easier to control and made your attacks more precise with minimal extra effort. Shaking the wii remote for a melee attack in an fps is a pain, because my hands are on the button, and it's reflexive to push the button for melee.

Red Steel 2 always frustrates me because the sword controls collide with the camera controls and for me they spoiled the experience.

(Playstation Move, now there's a gimmick.)

I'm not trying to have a yelling war with you, just an open discussion, I too despise having yelling wars on this site, it's why I've recently come to ignore any thread with "DMC" or "Devil May Cry" in the title.

I didn't intend to come over fanboyish or shouty, I apologise if I did, I just wanted to make clear that people shouldn't be totally ignorant of the entire system on preconceptions alone, they need to actually use it and seek out quality titles for it before judging it.

I also apologise for the walls of text, I'm quite good at them at the moment...

Edit: Basically, it's fine to have a prefered input, but new methods do take adjustment and people should give them a chance before writing them off entirely. Nintendo made mistakes with the Wii, they're trying not to with the Wii U, particularly in the online connectivity and control aspects.

Honestly, I just don't find it to be a normal response. You gave me surprise with that slight detailed view with Wii defence.

Yes, the Wii isn't perfect. The wii motes being the main focus, it just wasn't for every one, and even then people had all types of problems with it. Besides buying battery's or charges, a lot of people didn't find it accurate at all (Nintendo making attachments for it), or that the motions you had to make became annoying for certain games.

A friend of mine who is a really big Zelda fan only had a couple of problems with Skyward Sword, and that is was difficult for him to adjust to the motion, and for some reason the controller actually dropped out some times on him. It hardly happened to me but for some reason his Wii just hated him. Now the anger towards the Wii had risen there since many people who followed Nintendo previously actually had no hardware problems before. Like you said, it should of had more controller options sooner.

Now some of the games really ticked fans off as well. Most of the shovelware being shallow as we know it and domminating the shelves, one of the games many people actually bought the Wii for was SSB Brawl. There were two responses to this game, either you loved it for all the new features, or you were really disappointed with the game play, the restraints and the random tripping. Then there are other no no's like Other M and Mario Kart Wii, which I shouldn't have to explain.

There are other things as well, but this was a while a go now and I just can't remember it all.

Sorry for assuming you spat the dummy. I'll be back after a 8 hour sleep if you want to continue.

 

[The White Hunter]

Honestly, I just don't find it to be a normal response. You gave me surprise with that slight detailed view with Wii defence.

Yes, the Wii isn't perfect. The wii motes being the main focus, it just wasn't for every one, and even then people had all types of problems with it. Besides buying battery's or charges, a lot of people didn't find it accurate at all (Nintendo making attachments for it), or that the motions you had to make became annoying for certain games.

A friend of mine who is a really big Zelda fan only had a couple of problems with Skyward Sword, and that is was difficult for him to adjust to the motion, and for some reason the controller actually dropped out some times on him. It hardly happened to me but for some reason his Wii just hated him. Now the anger towards the Wii had risen there since many people who followed Nintendo previously actually had no hardware problems before. Like you said, it should of had more controller options sooner.

Now some of the games really ticked fans off as well. Most of the shovelware being shallow as we know it and domminating the shelves, one of the games many people actually bought the Wii for was SSB Brawl. There were two responses to this game, either you loved it for all the new features, or you were really disappointed with the game play, the restraints and the random tripping. Then there are other no no's like Other M and Mario Kart Wii, which I shouldn't have to explain.

There are other things as well, but this was a while a go now and I just can't remember it all.

Sorry for assuming you spat the dummy. I'll be back after a 8 hour sleep if you want to continue.

My writing style is fairly heavy and assertive, so it can be easily misunderstood I guess.

I personally never experienced problems with the hardware of the wii, though my brothers wii remote often has problems connecting with the classic controller, though as I said, they really should have packed in the Classic Controller Pro from the very beginning so that developers could count on a full controller being available to the player.

And games like Twilight Princess or Resident Evil 4 should have had multiple options because they were ports with the gamecube controller support ripped out. The difference being RE4 benefitted and TP did not.

I always found the motion plus addon to be clunky and irritating, mostly because it came in a wii condom and was a pain the the ass to remove when you weren't using it, say for a sidescroller or the vitual console. For Skyward Sword I do own the limited edtition that came with a remote with motion plus built in, and I've had no issue with it aside from it gets lost in combat and has to be re-centered on the map screen, which is easy to manage as you just push the down button on the map rather than re-calibrate the entire thing.

I really enjoyed Brawl a lot and I've had a lot of fun with it, though I don't get why some characters like Mewtwo were cut at all, there was no reason to cut them, and Young Link just wasn't the same as Toon Link. There wasn't much issue I took with Brawl beyond Meta Knight was a cheap prick though. I love the story because it worked quite well, it was an 8 hour sidescrolling beat'em up platformer that you could play on the couch with a buddy, so I enjoyed it a lot.

I've yet to play Other M but I hear it's a touch mysogynistic but has good gameplay. Mario Kart Wii I kind of hate, it felt bland and slow compared to the DS rendition, with worse tracks and more obnoxious weapons. Pow blocks, lightning, blue shells, all of which are the bane of my existence in Mario Kart Wii, it's something I bore in mind constantly when I reviewed Sonic & All-Stars Transformed (which by my reckoning is now the gold standard for kart racers, it isn't a nostlagic blast, it's a classic in it's own damn right), I loathe and detest the sheer density of weapons like that in Mario Kart Wii. I had a blast last night on it with my brother and in the final quarter lap I was hit by 2 POW blocks, a Blue Shell and a lightning bolt, went from first to 8th in about 10 seconds. Ridiculous and it happened too frequently for my tastes. Whereas in Mario Kart DS we'd have 64-race super grand prix and they were a blast.

Nintendo did make some real mistakes with the Wii, but the Wii hosted some fantastic games with some great control, even thought it could sometimes take a bit of practice. People are unfortuneately dismissive of those great games and it does begin to frustrate me sometimes.

(So far as the batteries go, Microsoft was guilty of the exact same thing and I detest it. Microsoft did provide the play and charge kit but as I recall they cost as much as a controller anyway. I prefer the wired 360 controllers, no huge battery box on the back and the cord is huge (still don't like that d-pad or asymmetry).)

Thankfully Nintendo seems to have learned with the Wii U, it's got some good third party support already and some good first party titles lined up and in good time from the launch too. Not to mention the gamepad has a full suite of control inputs as well as the touch screen, so the Pro controller is much easier to integrate into games and much less of a waste of resources for developers to utilise.

Time will tell but for now it's shaping up like they've learned from their mistakes, and there's enough coming for me to put down my money, in 5 years we can have a discussion on whether the Wii U worked out well, but I think the new approach they're taking will pay off for Nintendo and gamers alike so long as they don't forget their lessons from the Wii and Game Cube.

 

[DarthSka]

Can you add a 'No, but I wish I could,' option, because that's the exact boat I'm in at the moment.

 

[natster43]

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IF that is the case (no website seems to know what type of game this is even going to be; I assumed fighter due to the description on Joystick but I suppose it doesn't actually say one way or another) I will be keeping a closer eye on the Wii U.

One game alone won't be enough but if Nintendo keeps this up, they may persuade me to give them another chance after the Wii broke my heart...

You probably know this by now but it has been announced to be an RPG http://mynintendonews.com/2013/01/24/atlus-and-nintendos-wii-u-crossover-title-is-an-rpg/

 

[Pulse]

Bayonetta 2....why so exclusive?

Can't justify getting a whole console for one game (no matter how good it is).

 

[Shadow-Phoenix]

Bayonetta 2....why so exclusive?

Can't justify getting a whole console for one game (no matter how good it is).

Halo,Killzone,Gears and god of war why so exclusive?.

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Linking Blunty and I haven't seen that guy in ages and that gets an insta fave from me.

Really I just wish the people who click no on this poll and then proceed to shit on the U would just go spend their time doing something a little more positive and more productive.

Then again I feel if it gets worse on here for Nintendo hate I'll just go shit on the PS4 and 720 threads because an eye for an eye makes everyone blind.

 

[Seracen]

The last time I dealt with a crappy controller for the games was N64...but I didn't BUY the thing, just went to a friend's house. You can have the best games in the world, but unless I can use an honest-to-God controller, leave me the hell alone...

 

[Exius Xavarus]

I've already got a Wii U Deluxe Edition, so I'm all set for when the goods come out! I actually don't mind the GamePad. I like it more than the Pro Controller, at least. I like them both, but on the Pro Controller, the buttons are so close that when I move my thumb down to hit the buttons, I'm actually going too far and not hitting them at all. That, or not far enough. It'll take some getting used to having the sticks and buttons flipped, being so used to a PS3 controller.