Poll: Are you a feminist?

[Phasmal]

I believe in equality for all, but I also believe that most people who call themselves "feminists" are batshit insane and make women look bad. So... I guess you could say I am, but I wouldn't want to be identified as one.

Most people?
Thats an exaggeration.
And also not nice. =P

 

[Troublesome Lagomorph]

I believe in equality for all, but I also believe that most people who call themselves "feminists" are batshit insane and make women look bad. So... I guess you could say I am, but I wouldn't want to be identified as one.

Most people?
Thats an exaggeration.
And also not nice. =P

I guess. Still, there are some people I will do my best to avoid association with. *scrolls up* Yep...

 

[In Search of Username]

I support equality for both sexes, I am a humanist.

Exactly

I call myself humanist as well, many don't understand the term though.

That's because the term has many, MANY different meanings and applications.

Oh? Enlighten me, maybe I'll switch terms if it doesn't mean what I think it does

probably better if everyone dropped labels and just focused on the issues actually...

Well... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humanism_(disambiguation) Just saying, it's not a term you can just throw out and instantly expect people to know what you mean. Plus there's its status as kind of a meaningless feelgood term for atheists to call their 'religion' when asked. So I'm sure it means what you think it does, but it means a lot of other stuff too, so don't be surprised if people don't understand the term in the way you do.

Thanks for the info, I'll have to use something else I guess. Or maybe nothing at all. I feel like alot of problems arise when people are more loyal to their labels than actual facts.

Yeah, labels are supposed to simplify things but sometimes they get so vague that it'd be simpler to just explain your point of view than outline which of the million types of humanist you are.

 

[Phasmal]

I believe in equality for all, but I also believe that most people who call themselves "feminists" are batshit insane and make women look bad. So... I guess you could say I am, but I wouldn't want to be identified as one.

Most people?
Thats an exaggeration.
And also not nice. =P

I guess. Still, there are some people I will do my best to avoid association with. *scrolls up* Yep...

Maybe so, but that's still like saying that most gamers are hooting misogynistic dickholes.
Judging people by the extreme minority is not good.

 

[Troublesome Lagomorph]

I believe in equality for all, but I also believe that most people who call themselves "feminists" are batshit insane and make women look bad. So... I guess you could say I am, but I wouldn't want to be identified as one.

Most people?
Thats an exaggeration.
And also not nice. =P

I guess. Still, there are some people I will do my best to avoid association with. *scrolls up* Yep...

Maybe so, but that's still like saying that most gamers are hooting misogynistic dickholes.
Judging people by the extreme minority is not good.

And yet they're the ones that represent us. Not even talking about any specific group, but for people as a whole. I'm part of the "I wish I were a brain in a tank, put inside or a robotic body" kind of person.

 

[wgmovies]

I am not a feminist but i am for equal rights in this world

 

[Phasmal]

I believe in equality for all, but I also believe that most people who call themselves "feminists" are batshit insane and make women look bad. So... I guess you could say I am, but I wouldn't want to be identified as one.

Most people?
Thats an exaggeration.
And also not nice. =P

I guess. Still, there are some people I will do my best to avoid association with. *scrolls up* Yep...

Maybe so, but that's still like saying that most gamers are hooting misogynistic dickholes.
Judging people by the extreme minority is not good.

And yet they're the ones that represent us. Not even talking about any specific group, but for people as a whole. I'm part of the "I wish I were a brain in a tank, put inside or a robotic body" kind of person.

None of those people represent me.
Saying you're representing something doesn't magically make it so.
I can't stop people saying they are `x` but I can determine through their behaviour whether they are a good example or a terrible one.
There are nutters in every group, doesn't mean I stop associating with them.
There are crazy women, I still call myself a woman, cause it's what I am.

 

[Darkmantle]

I believe in equality for all, but I also believe that most people who call themselves "feminists" are batshit insane and make women look bad. So... I guess you could say I am, but I wouldn't want to be identified as one.

Most people?
Thats an exaggeration.
And also not nice. =P

I guess. Still, there are some people I will do my best to avoid association with. *scrolls up* Yep...

Maybe so, but that's still like saying that most gamers are hooting misogynistic dickholes.
Judging people by the extreme minority is not good.

And yet they're the ones that represent us. Not even talking about any specific group, but for people as a whole. I'm part of the "I wish I were a brain in a tank, put inside or a robotic body" kind of person.

None of those people represent me.
Saying you're representing something doesn't magically make it so.
I can't stop people saying they are `x` but I can determine through their behaviour whether they are a good example or a terrible one.
There are nutters in every group, doesn't mean I stop associating with them.
There are crazy women, I still call myself a woman, cause it's what I am.

Fair enough, but just because I say I'm not a feminist doesn't mean I deserve the levels of hate and assumptions I get from many people. As soon as I say I'm not, people freak out.

Hell, this last guy just compared me to the KKK.

If this* goes on much longer, I'm sure he'll roll out the third Reich on me.

 

[Phasmal]

I believe in equality for all, but I also believe that most people who call themselves "feminists" are batshit insane and make women look bad. So... I guess you could say I am, but I wouldn't want to be identified as one.

Most people?
Thats an exaggeration.
And also not nice. =P

I guess. Still, there are some people I will do my best to avoid association with. *scrolls up* Yep...

Maybe so, but that's still like saying that most gamers are hooting misogynistic dickholes.
Judging people by the extreme minority is not good.

And yet they're the ones that represent us. Not even talking about any specific group, but for people as a whole. I'm part of the "I wish I were a brain in a tank, put inside or a robotic body" kind of person.

None of those people represent me.
Saying you're representing something doesn't magically make it so.
I can't stop people saying they are `x` but I can determine through their behaviour whether they are a good example or a terrible one.
There are nutters in every group, doesn't mean I stop associating with them.
There are crazy women, I still call myself a woman, cause it's what I am.

Fair enough, but just because I say I'm not a feminist doesn't mean I deserve the levels of hate and assumptions I get from many people. As soon as I say I'm not, people freak out.

Hell, this last guy just compared me to the KKK.

If those goes on much longer, I'm sure he'll roll out the third Reich on me.

Welcome to the club, mate.
As soon as I tell people I am a feminist, they freak out too. Being a feminist gamer is not easy.
I guess nobody can win.
Lets all just give peace a chance and all that.

 

[Calibanbutcher]

@moopig66: You forgot the most important part for any story Michael Bay is involved in: Huuge Explosions.


ON topic:
I shall just leave this here:
http://thefemitheist.blogspot.de/2012/04/allow-me-to-introduce-myself.html

 

[Darkmantle]

I believe in equality for all, but I also believe that most people who call themselves "feminists" are batshit insane and make women look bad. So... I guess you could say I am, but I wouldn't want to be identified as one.

Most people?
Thats an exaggeration.
And also not nice. =P

I guess. Still, there are some people I will do my best to avoid association with. *scrolls up* Yep...

Maybe so, but that's still like saying that most gamers are hooting misogynistic dickholes.
Judging people by the extreme minority is not good.

And yet they're the ones that represent us. Not even talking about any specific group, but for people as a whole. I'm part of the "I wish I were a brain in a tank, put inside or a robotic body" kind of person.

None of those people represent me.
Saying you're representing something doesn't magically make it so.
I can't stop people saying they are `x` but I can determine through their behaviour whether they are a good example or a terrible one.
There are nutters in every group, doesn't mean I stop associating with them.
There are crazy women, I still call myself a woman, cause it's what I am.

Fair enough, but just because I say I'm not a feminist doesn't mean I deserve the levels of hate and assumptions I get from many people. As soon as I say I'm not, people freak out.

Hell, this last guy just compared me to the KKK.

If those goes on much longer, I'm sure he'll roll out the third Reich on me.

Welcome to the club, mate.
As soon as I tell people I am a feminist, they freak out too. Being a feminist gamer is not easy.
I guess nobody can win.
Lets all just give peace a chance and all that.

It's basically turned into this weird pseudo culture war. Where (some) people ignore the issues and rush to defend their "side".

And neither of these sides I really want to be a part of unfortunately.

 

[Darkmantle]

@moopig66: You forgot the most important part for any story Michael Bay is involved in: Huuge Explosions.


ON topic:
I shall just leave this here:
http://thefemitheist.blogspot.de/2012/04/allow-me-to-introduce-myself.html

wow. My mind is actually blown. That is impressive in it's ignorance and pure hate.

maybe it's written by the same nice lady father_time linked to.

the one that the only mercy she can give men is to kill them quickly :/

 

[Winnosh]

Am I a feminist, yes. What I am not is a straw feminist. Too many people associate Feminisim with straw feminists. And too many feminists try and say that straw feminists are a trope and not a real issue needing to be dealt with.

I'm looking at YOU Feminist Frequency. Stereotypes exist for a reason, some people do act like that, and saying it was made up to discredit the movement only discredits it even more by ignoring a REAL PROBLEM.

 

[mrhateful]

Not really.

While I try to be fair to everyone regardless of things like gender or race, I'm too pragmatic to believe in complete equality.

I see Humans as a collection of similar, yet ultimately different people, which isn't a bad thing because it's these differences and variety that makes mankind wonderful, but I recognise that different people have different strengths and weaknesses.

Some of these differences are due to physical traits, some are due to learned behaviours or skills, but ultimately I can't believe in or advocate complete, unbiased equality when in any given situation, it would be impractical not to favour the most capable person for that situation.

It's because my outlook could be possibly be (mis)interpreted as sexist, misogynistic or prejudiced in some other way that I can't make any claim to being a Feminist.

This, Its easy for people in our day and age to want everyone to be equal I mean its the driving force behind communism, what we forget is that we are not all the same. For instance in Denmark there used to be a rule that a woman could stay home with her child some time after birth and still get paid now that rule applies to males as well which is kinda ridicules.

 

[PurePareidolia]

You make an interesting point. On the religion bit, I do not consider myself an atheist because I am undecided about my spiritual beliefs.

As for the other point, I can see where you are coming from, it depends how you define the word.

~~Definitions~~

I tend to think of a feminist being someone who actively advocates feminism, rather than someone who just thinks rights should be equal for everyone.

That's perfectly understandable. Personally I think Agnostic Atheism (what you're describing) is the only defensible position - belief is withheld until evidence is presented, while acknowledging the possibility of such evidence existing. It's atheism with a very good reason behind it.

Similarly I can't really argue with the feminist=activist idea - honestly the word does have an implicit bias that would probably imply more than equality if indeed equality were the status quo.

 

[Phasmal]

This, Its easy for people in our day and age to want everyone to be equal I mean its the driving force behind communism, what we forget is that we are not all the same. For instance in Denmark there used to be a rule that a woman could stay home with her child some time after birth and still get paid now that rule applies to males as well which is kinda ridicules.

You're against paternity leave? How come?
Most blokes I know are all in favour of it. In fact pretty much all of them are, so I'm interested in finding out why someone wouldn't be.

 

[Hat Man]

I'm for equality of the sexes.

Feminists are not.

 

[Random Fella]

By your dictionary definition, yes.
By the world wide definition that is known to the word, no.

 

[MrHide-Patten]

Well judging off the Oxford English Dictionary Online definition I am, although my deviantART page probably would have femininist think I'm a misogynist.

 

[Epona]

Not really.

While I try to be fair to everyone regardless of things like gender or race, I'm too pragmatic to believe in complete equality.

I see Humans as a collection of similar, yet ultimately different people, which isn't a bad thing because it's these differences and variety that makes mankind wonderful, but I recognise that different people have different strengths and weaknesses.

Some of these differences are due to physical traits, some are due to learned behaviours or skills, but ultimately I can't believe in or advocate complete, unbiased equality when in any given situation, it would be impractical not to favour the most capable person for that situation.

It's because my outlook could be possibly be (mis)interpreted as sexist, misogynistic or prejudiced in some other way that I can't make any claim to being a Feminist.

This, Its easy for people in our day and age to want everyone to be equal I mean its the driving force behind communism, what we forget is that we are not all the same. For instance in Denmark there used to be a rule that a woman could stay home with her child some time after birth and still get paid now that rule applies to males as well which is kinda ridicules.

Why is it ridiculous? Are fathers not as "special" as mothers?