I have a vagina, if that makes you feel any better.I do not think this is a question MALES should be answering. Even in the height of misogyny males usually deny everything.
Behold, sexism.0thello said:I do not think this is a question MALES should be answering. Even in the height of misogyny males usually deny everything.
At least when dante walks and shoots its to look cool the way he holds his gun, when bayonetta does the simple thing of walking and shooting she pretty mauch shakes her ass and poses.cgentero said:Let me answer this with another question, is Dante sexist because he is an attractive male whose a bit flirty and doesn't like to wear a shirt?
The future of feminism is not how men treat or view women, but rather how everyone views and treats women. Women are some of the best chauvinists and misogynists out there.Risingblade said:Wasn't she designed by a woman?
No no no! A flawed female character is not sexist. There exist females who have been helpless in reality. A character is not defined by their sex. If a big strong female helps a helpless male would that be sexist? If you say no then you're being sexist by assuming that a deliberate inverse stereotype isn't just as bad as the stereotype. It's a stereotype that Black people are stupid. So you would say every black character therefore has to be smart or it's racist?scorptatious said:Now if she were in a position where she acts completely helpless and has to rely on a big strong man to help her out most of the time, then yeah, she probably would be kind of sexist.
You complain about how games don't pander to the gay audience, and then you say that games should't be expected to have completely equal representation. Contradiction much?valleyshrew said:snip
No no no! A flawed female character is not sexist. There exist females who have been helpless in reality. A character is not defined by their sex. If a big strong female helps a helpless male would that be sexist? If you say no then you're being sexist by assuming that a deliberate inverse stereotype isn't just as bad as the stereotype. It's a stereotype that Black people are stupid. So you would say every black character therefore has to be smart or it's racist?scorptatious said:Now if she were in a position where she acts completely helpless and has to rely on a big strong man to help her out most of the time, then yeah, she probably would be kind of sexist.
That's essentially true, but it's also wrong~valleyshrew said:No no no! A flawed female character is not sexist. There exist females who have been helpless in reality. A character is not defined by their sex. If a big strong female helps a helpless male would that be sexist? If you say no then you're being sexist by assuming that a deliberate inverse stereotype isn't just as bad as the stereotype. It's a stereotype that Black people are stupid. So you would say every black character therefore has to be smart or it's racist?
This doesn't work as an example. There is no stereotype (on Earth, as far as I'm aware) of men being weak and needing to be rescued by women. If we had this stereotype, then that portrayal would be a bad thing, but we don't.If a big strong female helps a helpless male would that be sexist? If you say no then you're being sexist by assuming that a deliberate inverse stereotype isn't just as bad as the stereotype.
There's also this. I have to assume some writers figure "eh, she's sexy, that's all the personality we need".xXxJessicaxXx said:Men seem to think that women have a problem with 'sexy' characters. Personally I tend not too have a problem with it. I even use mods for game like fallout and oblivion to avoid looking like a man with a womans head. I more have an issue with women who are ONLY about the way they look. Characters like Lara Croft and Bayonetta actually rise above that and are actually smart and dangerous women. It's a shame that the media objectifies and sexualises such strong female games characters but when you actually get inside the game they are very likable.
Jennifer Hale as Commander Shepard is probably the toughest and most awesome lady I know I want her voice so I don't sound like 'Fluttershy the my little pony' anymore >_>.mireko said:[sub]Although I secretly have a thing for tough, muscular women. Where are the games for me??[/sub]
I'm impressed you were able to make this much sense of that clusterfuck of a story to begin with. *thumbs up*EternalNothingness said:I don't know what you're talking about.
But, I'd mostly say that she's just fighting for her freedom from the oppressive Lumen Sage rule. Sure, she's also questing to treat her amnesia after five-hundred years imprisoned in a tomb, but it mostly revolves around her playing Colonial American militiaman to the Lumen Sages' Redcoat British.
After all, deep down inside of anything that's portrayed as "evil," like Bayonetta and her origins as a witch and a servant of Hell, is an innocent soul struggling against discrimination from the misguided world. And when you look at anything that's portrayed as "good," like the Lumen Sages and their angel-armies, they're actually manipulative bastards who'd kill anybody that's evil in name and looks only, all in the name of their own selfish desires.
I could go into more detail, but I'd spoil the convoluted story anyway.