So...you don't reject anything at all, then.DoPo said:Seriously, what the hell people? When I say you haven't disproved them, I mean just that, you haven't disproved them. You know what's wise - not everything is a binary issue. So stop trying to make me think stuff I don't want to. Ghosts are not disproved =/= they exist.Da Orky Man said:There is also nothing to disprove that I have a pet unicorn with a jetpack, but it doesn't mean I do have one. You can't prove a negative, it would be wise to remember that.DoPo said:Just pointing stuff out. The ghosts exist in an indeterminate state - nothing really points toward their existence or non-existence. I think we can draw a conclusion from that, though - Schrodinger is not having a really fun time after his death.Hazy992 said:DoPo said:But think about it - there is nothing to disprove ghosts. What if hallucinations are actually caused by ghosts and all that?
Is that a joke or...?
For the record, I'll just state again something I've said before: I believe in things that can be proven, directly or indirectly. That which cannot be proven should not be accepted or rejected as truth. Blind faith is the root of ignorance and stupidity.
That's wisdom right there. Remember it.
relaxing ey ...kortin said:Sure, why not. I don't believe in Heaven, so unless we do just fade out of existence after death, I find the thought of ghosthood slightly...relaxing. Better than some place where everything is supposed to be good and happy. That would get boring real quick-like.
I'm not much into chemistry, but I thought these were disproved.chadachada123 said:fairies that hold water molecules together
And yet, there were people that assumed that I was saying they do and they were not OK with that at all. That's real logical thinking there "Well, I'm waiting for sufficient proof for the existence of ghosts but I'll also dismiss any [imagined] claims that they do without a second thought." Sounds fair and scientific. Not.chadachada123 said:No one here is claiming that ghosts absolutely cannot exist
A hypothesis being untestable is NOT a testament to its strength, it is a testament to its weakness.DoPo said:It is indeed supposed to be Ouija. But I think I like Weegee better.Eclpsedragon said:Self correction: Weegie, or Ouija
But think about it - there is nothing to disprove ghosts. What if hallucinations are actually caused by ghosts and all that?Hazy992 said:No. There's no real evidence to suggest they exist and unless the day comes where there is evidence, I won't believe in them.
I'm debating whether to start calling anyone who doesn't have a clue what I'm talking about, an idiot and leave it at that. I won't for now, though. However, you did write five paragraphs that were besides the point. Which is...applaudable in some ways, I guess.TheDoctor455 said:A hypothesis being untestable is NOT a testament to its strength, it is a testament to its weakness.DoPo said:It is indeed supposed to be Ouija. But I think I like Weegee better.Eclpsedragon said:Self correction: Weegie, or Ouija
But think about it - there is nothing to disprove ghosts. What if hallucinations are actually caused by ghosts and all that?Hazy992 said:No. There's no real evidence to suggest they exist and unless the day comes where there is evidence, I won't believe in them.
If there is no way to disprove or prove a hypothesis, then there is no way it can be used to make any predictions about what would happen if you did something about it.
Put another way...
many people (I call them ID-iots) believe the Theory of Evolution is either bunk or that Creationism is on equal footing with it. These people are WRONG.
Yes, Creationism has technically been around longer than the theory of evolution, but, it has only been repeatedly asserted in that time, never proven. It also hasn't been disproven... but then... how does one go about disproving/proving the existence of a being that is supposed to be 'outside of nature', and therefore undetectable by any of our methods?
Evolution on the other hand, has been thoroughly contested both by the scientific community and... some other people for 200+ years, and it is still held up as our best explanation for the diversity of life on Earth. And what would disprove it? Just one fossil in the wrong place. All it would take is to find say, a modern bunny rabbit's fossil in the Pre-Cambrean soil. No such anachronistic fossils have been found.
Pretty sure people have reported animal ghosts before. I'm not saying that I believe them just that it has happened.Midgeamoo said:I think you can easily see that ghosts are a manmade concept by the fact that nobody ever reports a cow ghost, or a dinosaur ghost, or a whale ghost etc etc. Believing in ghosts assumes that we are something supernatural in ourselves in this world to have evolved some sort of spirit that other creatures don't have.
Hey man, a Bro's gotta Bro!Chairman Miaow said:Damn Hazy, you beat me to it!Hazy992 said:
Your point is...?Kragg said:relaxing ey ...kortin said:Sure, why not. I don't believe in Heaven, so unless we do just fade out of existence after death, I find the thought of ghosthood slightly...relaxing. Better than some place where everything is supposed to be good and happy. That would get boring real quick-like.
think about how many people died, how they died, old people, murder victims, childbirth deaths
hf sleeping
no it doesn't... if it was certain that there would be a tormenting afterlife how would that relax you? or ANYONE as you like to capslock. in that case ignorance is better than certaintykortin said:Your point is...?Kragg said:relaxing ey ...kortin said:Sure, why not. I don't believe in Heaven, so unless we do just fade out of existence after death, I find the thought of ghosthood slightly...relaxing. Better than some place where everything is supposed to be good and happy. That would get boring real quick-like.
think about how many people died, how they died, old people, murder victims, childbirth deaths
hf sleeping
Having any sort of certainty in what happens after your body stops working relaxes ANYONE, no matter what actually happens.