Poll: Final Fantasy X remake - do YOU hate it?
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Let me guess, they are polishing up the graphics on a game that dumped everything into graphics in the first place. The combat system will still be generic. The plot will be juvenile, the characters undeveloped, their interactions forced. Titus will still be nothing more than an emo ghost with daddy issues. Cutscenes will continue to be forced upon you. There will not be a world map, just one way corridors with different backgrounds.
The grid system will continue to be used even though it is inferior to a leveling system. The best items can only be acquired through tedious and mindless minigames. The big bad will be laughably easy. I will not relate to a single character. The romance angle will continue to be forced and awkward. All minorities will be stereotypes or caricatures. Blitzball will continue to be the best part of the game even though it isn't that good to begin with.
The mythology will continue to make little or no sense. The plot will contradict itself. The voice acting will be awful. It will continue to be the point in which I lost all respect for Square Enix and mark the end of my favorite video game series.
Yay, I can't wait to play it.
I started with Final Fantasy. It was flawed but a great game. FF2/4 is still my favorite game, only FF6, Crono Trigger, FF Tactics and Xenogears hold a torch to it in my eyes. I was a FF nerd like some people are Star Wars nerds. I didn't care for 7 all that much, and 8 got weird after the orphanage, but 10 and 10.2 were like Phantom Menace for me. Everything the company has done since has been utter shit. They killed Tactics by ripping off "The Never Ending Story" poorly. They gave up on the Crono line. They sold off the Xeno line and didn't allow Namco to use the core mythos. The last Star Ocean game made me want to bleach my mind, especially the pederast parts. Dragon Quest strayed away from a formula that worked for 20 years. None of their new property is any good.
Square Enix is to video games what George Lucas is to movies.
The grid system will continue to be used even though it is inferior to a leveling system. The best items can only be acquired through tedious and mindless minigames. The big bad will be laughably easy. I will not relate to a single character. The romance angle will continue to be forced and awkward. All minorities will be stereotypes or caricatures. Blitzball will continue to be the best part of the game even though it isn't that good to begin with.
The mythology will continue to make little or no sense. The plot will contradict itself. The voice acting will be awful. It will continue to be the point in which I lost all respect for Square Enix and mark the end of my favorite video game series.
Yay, I can't wait to play it.
I started with Final Fantasy. It was flawed but a great game. FF2/4 is still my favorite game, only FF6, Crono Trigger, FF Tactics and Xenogears hold a torch to it in my eyes. I was a FF nerd like some people are Star Wars nerds. I didn't care for 7 all that much, and 8 got weird after the orphanage, but 10 and 10.2 were like Phantom Menace for me. Everything the company has done since has been utter shit. They killed Tactics by ripping off "The Never Ending Story" poorly. They gave up on the Crono line. They sold off the Xeno line and didn't allow Namco to use the core mythos. The last Star Ocean game made me want to bleach my mind, especially the pederast parts. Dragon Quest strayed away from a formula that worked for 20 years. None of their new property is any good.
Square Enix is to video games what George Lucas is to movies.
Someone said on Escapist that they will never remake FF7, but something seems very wrong if Square Enix is willing to remake 1-6, skip the Playstation ones, then remake the rest. Especially 7, their most hyped one yet. If a semi-accurate NES demake of 7 can exist, with their massive millions, Square Enix really should be able to remake some of the Final Fantasy games from scratch.
When it comes to a FFX remake, it feels like a slap in the face to skip 7-9, when the previous games have all been re(rere)released. And I won't be buying this remake because I didn't like the original release.
When it comes to a FFX remake, it feels like a slap in the face to skip 7-9, when the previous games have all been re(rere)released. And I won't be buying this remake because I didn't like the original release.
So lets break down your argument: You never played FFX. You never owned a PS2. You'll gladly buy a $50-60 port but will not buy a $50 console. Because you will not buy a console you don't own, yet wish to play games on, all games for that console warrant a port. Anyone who criticizes the porting of the game just wants to deprive people of playing the game.Phlakes said:
Ya know what, if people are stupid enough to shell out money for a port of a game cause they, for some reason, refuse to buy a last-gen platform that they actually want to play games on, you're right, I don't want them playing the game.
This isn't an HD remake of Earthbound or Secret of Mana, christ, this is a game you can get on Amazon, brand new, for $20 on a console you can get on Amazon, like-new, for $50. If it was confirmed, in any way, that it was an expanded version in any fashion except MAYBE a little more graphic shine, I'd drop most of my criticism, but that is still totally up in the air. But I guess 2005 PS2 graphics over 2002 PS2 graphics is worth $50+ with the the gaming audience these days having a bird-like response to shiny objects.
But hey, encourage this behavior, and next thing we know we'll all be lucky enough to be able to repurchase our entire game libraries every 10 years. That's way cheaper than buying an old console, right?
FFX is probably my favorite Final Fantasy. I thought it was great, but it does seem a bit soon for a remake. It came out, what, 10 years ago? It's probably going to just be an HD port, not really a remake. Those are nice, I love my Ico/Shadow HD version, but it seems pointless for FFX. With Ico/Shadow, lots of people didn't play it. Huge critical acclaim but lackluster sales. This allowed lots of people to go back and see what they missed. I could never find a copy of Ico that worked on my PS2, so I was happy for it. But FFX? Everyone played it, some not that long ago really. I still remember the whole game. Not sure if I'll pick up the remake. I'd prefer to wait another 5-10 years before revisiting it. Wish the poll had an option in the middle, haha.
I know I will get hate mail for this but... It's a wonder how many times people will buy the same game over again. Final Fantasy is proof that a fool and his money will soon be parted. Every time they launch another FF title I am barraged with how "new" and "innovative" it is even though the story is the same, the characters are cliche, and there are more tropes-per-minute then even the worst 70's B flicks. Everyone seemed to hate Duke Nukem Forever because it didn't fall in line with the current ideal we have for video games yet Square Enix seems to be rewarded for taking the same game and giving it a fresh coat of paint. We collectively lampoon Madden and Call of Duty for putting out the same game every year yet miss the point when it comes to Final Fantasy, why is this?
I... I really don't know.
On one hand, I still have a perfectly functional copy of the original and a ps2. I also finished it at least 3 times and don't have a ps3. So if it is only a graphics update it's absolutely not worth getting a ps3 for.
On the other hand I really can't think of anything significant I'd want them to add/change about it. In fact, the last thing I'd want them to do is start retconning stuff Lucas-style.
I don't think it's a waste of time though, if nothing else it'll get square enix back in touch with final fantasy at it's best /flameshield.
BTW has this puppy got a release date yet? Or is it another one of square enix's notorious ploys where they announce the second coming of christ, and than for the next 4 years all they release is a 3 minute sneak peak.
On one hand, I still have a perfectly functional copy of the original and a ps2. I also finished it at least 3 times and don't have a ps3. So if it is only a graphics update it's absolutely not worth getting a ps3 for.
On the other hand I really can't think of anything significant I'd want them to add/change about it. In fact, the last thing I'd want them to do is start retconning stuff Lucas-style.
I don't think it's a waste of time though, if nothing else it'll get square enix back in touch with final fantasy at it's best /flameshield.
BTW has this puppy got a release date yet? Or is it another one of square enix's notorious ploys where they announce the second coming of christ, and than for the next 4 years all they release is a 3 minute sneak peak.
To be honest, I'd rather have Xenogears or Vagrant Story. Both were great games, and Xenogears had a half-assed disc 2 that deserved to be fleshed out.
Hrm, first I have heard about this. Is this actually official?
I really liked FFX, save for a few obviously annoying parts. But to this day I keep "Other world" on any MP3 player I carry with me because I still fondly remember the feeling of shock and awe...some I had when I first saw the Blitzball intro and thought to myself "My god, they have finally made a bad ass final fantasy!!!! /SQUEEEEEE
Granted there was quite a substantial letdown from that point, but the song still can send shivers down my spine when I hear it. So yes, Really did like MOST of FFX.
However, this feels insanely wrong to me. Now if it is a simple resolution increase along with proper 1080 support much like the ICO Anthology, I guess I have no problem with it. If its a true honest to god remake with completely new assets and higher poly counts, then even with the prospect of an even more lifelike LuLu /drool Id still have to say defiantly NO! as well as "WHY!!"
(although you could make an argument for a 10 year anniversary edition, but by that logic you could make the same argument for FF7 and a 15 year anniversary edition)
I can get why they wont redo FF7. Too many people want it, but its the same kind of people if they were to get it, they would revolt over it. But bypassing FF3(snes), FF8, FF9 to revisit 10 is a horrible, horrible idea. Seriously between 3us, 7,8,9 you likely have 3/4ths of what the fanbase of Final fantasy, refers to as their number 1 all time favorite in the franchise history. Skipping over 5 installments of the franchise over what has been remade thus far (3, & 2(snes= 4)most notably with 5 being highly speculated for possible 3ds development) it seems insane to bypass all that history that fans are downright dying for. I myself would flip my lid for a fully updated and overhauled remake of FF9 (and do something to fix like the last 10+ hours of the game/story) So, again, categorically, emphantically, No, simply No.
1080 update? sure, Full overhaul, absolutely not.. the graphics still hold up today well enough and any of the PSX installments are in infinitely greater need.
I really liked FFX, save for a few obviously annoying parts. But to this day I keep "Other world" on any MP3 player I carry with me because I still fondly remember the feeling of shock and awe...some I had when I first saw the Blitzball intro and thought to myself "My god, they have finally made a bad ass final fantasy!!!! /SQUEEEEEE
Granted there was quite a substantial letdown from that point, but the song still can send shivers down my spine when I hear it. So yes, Really did like MOST of FFX.
However, this feels insanely wrong to me. Now if it is a simple resolution increase along with proper 1080 support much like the ICO Anthology, I guess I have no problem with it. If its a true honest to god remake with completely new assets and higher poly counts, then even with the prospect of an even more lifelike LuLu /drool Id still have to say defiantly NO! as well as "WHY!!"
(although you could make an argument for a 10 year anniversary edition, but by that logic you could make the same argument for FF7 and a 15 year anniversary edition)
I can get why they wont redo FF7. Too many people want it, but its the same kind of people if they were to get it, they would revolt over it. But bypassing FF3(snes), FF8, FF9 to revisit 10 is a horrible, horrible idea. Seriously between 3us, 7,8,9 you likely have 3/4ths of what the fanbase of Final fantasy, refers to as their number 1 all time favorite in the franchise history. Skipping over 5 installments of the franchise over what has been remade thus far (3, & 2(snes= 4)most notably with 5 being highly speculated for possible 3ds development) it seems insane to bypass all that history that fans are downright dying for. I myself would flip my lid for a fully updated and overhauled remake of FF9 (and do something to fix like the last 10+ hours of the game/story) So, again, categorically, emphantically, No, simply No.
1080 update? sure, Full overhaul, absolutely not.. the graphics still hold up today well enough and any of the PSX installments are in infinitely greater need.
Will not be buying it, as I no longer play my PS3, but FFX was a great game and I'm all for giving great games graphical make-overs.
It's not an HD release but a full on remake? I'm gonna say its a huge waste of time. Not because I hated the game, nor because I'm not a big FF guy in general, but because I can play final fantasy X and even by today's graphical standards say "this doesn't look like shit."
Final fantasy 7? Come on look at this
It doesn't matter how good you say it is, you are never going to convince anybody who started gaming this or last generation to go back and play a 30 hour game that looks like this. I never finished it as a kid and even I don't want to go back and play a 30 hour game that looks like this. That's what warrants a remake. HD rereleases of games are fine by me in any case though. Anybody whos ever tried to play a standard definition game on a 40+ inch HDTV can tell you that it just looks like a fuckin' mess because of the amount the low resolution and mismatched aspect is magnified.
Final fantasy 7? Come on look at this
It doesn't matter how good you say it is, you are never going to convince anybody who started gaming this or last generation to go back and play a 30 hour game that looks like this. I never finished it as a kid and even I don't want to go back and play a 30 hour game that looks like this. That's what warrants a remake. HD rereleases of games are fine by me in any case though. Anybody whos ever tried to play a standard definition game on a 40+ inch HDTV can tell you that it just looks like a fuckin' mess because of the amount the low resolution and mismatched aspect is magnified.
Unfair. Think about the logistics of FFX (I'm assuming you've played VII and X here). Think about the size of each segment of the map and how you see them. Now think about VII and the sheer SIZE of the game. More importantly think about the graphics we already have in X and compare it to VII.Solo-Wing said:
A remake of X is relatively easy, even a FULL remake as opposed to an HD touchup is easy. A full remake of VII is extremely costly.
Now I want VII to be made, I do. I would love remakes of VII and IX and to a slightly lesser extent VI. However the logistics are difficult, it will cost them huge amounts of time and money. The production time for a game of the graphical quality of XIII is massive and that costs. Making it the size and scope of VII and giving it better than XIII-2's graphics...well, it's gonna be hell to pay.
Oh but the rumours continue to fly that it's happening, it gets denied, it gets called impossible, it gets mentioned in a whisper and it goes on.
As for the boss of FFX people keep complaining about Yu Yevon is not a final boss in terms of difficulty, that's the one before, Yu Yevon and the aeons are there as an emotional goodbye, you're meant to be empathising with Yuna as she has to kill everyone of her friends and then killing Yu Yevon is a sort of ending moment, it's not about the power, it's equivalent to the fight between Cloud and Sephiroth at the very end of VII, you win by design, the play is there to engross you.
Of course if you don't empathise with Yuna then that's the fault of the game but the end boss is purposefully impossible to lose to.
I don't actually have a PS3, but it's the same principle, and yes, I'd rather get on PSN and download a port than order an entire console and game and have them shipped.Sylveria said:
And still, how is it a bad thing for anyone else? It's a Win-Neutral situation. People who want the game can get it easily, people who don't will, at worst, have to scroll through one more name in the PSN library.
EDIT: And IIRC it'll be an updated version, not a direct port. Don't know exactly how updated.