Poll: Flawlwss Victory: Can you think of a game that is perfect?
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No game is perfect, there are so many good games out there but what can be considered a good quality vs a bad quality is often times subjective to personal taste. Perfect example is Masters of Orion 2 and its micro management. For some people they love being able to custom design each ship, manage each planet, etc while others feel like that level of micro management is a burden on the player and distracts from the more macro strategy. I think the closest you can get is "what is the perfect game for you" as you can objectively define the qualities of a game (because the subjective parts of whats "good" are objective to your personal taste)
Perfection through simplicity? Seems legit, but I'm gonna disagree on a much simpler point: You can't win.OlasDAlmighty said:
Perfection.
I'm of the mind that perfection isn't something we really have on games. Not really. Because if we did, we'd all stop THERE and not need anything further. Some do anyway, but it's only when everyone does that it's perfect. So, there are, instead, really damn good games, and I know a fair few. Some are old school, some are today's picks. That's life.
Yeah, probably this. I still own my original Gameboy copy, it still works perfectly, and I still play it. I can't say that for any other game.OlasDAlmighty said:
Perfection.
I guess I'm not the only person sharing that opinion, makes me glad. Among my friends basically liking New Vegas at all seems to be a point of argument, since most of them were introduced to Fallout via Fallout 3.elvor0 said:
You know what might be a better question than "perfect game" might be Perfect Gaming Experience...
Mine could easily get me in trouble here and I hope it doesn't but anyhow. It was 1996 I was in 7th grade I believe and a group of friends all got together for the weekend. IT was supposed to be a D&D session but people forgot dice, books and characters sheets so it turned into a "let's rent a game a play it" sort of night. We ended up renting Resident Evil since I had just got a Playstation like the day before. It was glorious. Someone brought their pipe and a bag of, now please excuse me if this causes an issue, weed. We got stoned and together all played Resident Evil for the first time. I remember someone laughed so hard he wet his pants. We still quote that game to each other and every time we still smile. That was a perfect gaming experience, not a perfect game by a long shot but does it really matter...
Resident Evil 4 is pure gaming perfection to me.
The atmosphere, the guns, the upgrades, the merchant, the enemies, the bosses... everything was just so perfect. I remember standing in a gamestop, years and years ago now, playing a demo for a little game called RE4. I never had played a resident evil game, or very many mature games at all at this point in my life, as I was still quite young, and had strict parents. But something about that game just stuck out to me... felt special. unique. I quickly got my head chopped off by a chainsaw man and left that gamestop thinking of nothing but that game, and how horrified it made me feel, but in a good way. I had never witnessed or played something so violent, but it made me want more. and not in the bloodlust sort of way... in the "I wonder if it's even possible for you to win in that game?" sort of way. no other game had made me feel that way before. When I played that demo, i felt as if all hope was lost. that I was simply postponing the inevitable as I played it. It was, of course, completely beatable, as all games must be. But it struck a chord with me that i'll never forget. After I finally played and beat it, I thought back to that hopelessness I felt playing the demo... it was profound. To feel so small when other games had made me feel so big and powerful, only to find that there is always hope if your skilled and patient and courageous enough to fight... no other game had done that for me. sure, when I was link in legend of zelda, I felt courage, and strength, but I never felt like I wasn't in control. RE4 changed the way I looked at video games and what video games can do to people. I honestly can't ask for a more perfect game then that.
TL;DR: ZOMG RE4
The atmosphere, the guns, the upgrades, the merchant, the enemies, the bosses... everything was just so perfect. I remember standing in a gamestop, years and years ago now, playing a demo for a little game called RE4. I never had played a resident evil game, or very many mature games at all at this point in my life, as I was still quite young, and had strict parents. But something about that game just stuck out to me... felt special. unique. I quickly got my head chopped off by a chainsaw man and left that gamestop thinking of nothing but that game, and how horrified it made me feel, but in a good way. I had never witnessed or played something so violent, but it made me want more. and not in the bloodlust sort of way... in the "I wonder if it's even possible for you to win in that game?" sort of way. no other game had made me feel that way before. When I played that demo, i felt as if all hope was lost. that I was simply postponing the inevitable as I played it. It was, of course, completely beatable, as all games must be. But it struck a chord with me that i'll never forget. After I finally played and beat it, I thought back to that hopelessness I felt playing the demo... it was profound. To feel so small when other games had made me feel so big and powerful, only to find that there is always hope if your skilled and patient and courageous enough to fight... no other game had done that for me. sure, when I was link in legend of zelda, I felt courage, and strength, but I never felt like I wasn't in control. RE4 changed the way I looked at video games and what video games can do to people. I honestly can't ask for a more perfect game then that.
TL;DR: ZOMG RE4
Being as it was the first game to make me find out what "Backtracking" was, I totally, totally can.Terminate421 said:Can you name one thing that should be altered?
Didn't think so.
Don't get me wrong, its a fantastic game, and I love it. But damn did I lost in that game, on an (almost) Castlevania-like scale.
Games are an artistic endeavor, they can be perfect to an individual but there can never be a perfect game because it would have to apply to everyone.
For a game to be perfect it would have to be ambrosia to the senses, free with no required means to play it, never ending without producing boredom and loved by everyone...impossible unless God decides to make a video game
For a game to be perfect it would have to be ambrosia to the senses, free with no required means to play it, never ending without producing boredom and loved by everyone...impossible unless God decides to make a video game
There are some games that do what they can perfectly. Any change to them I feel would only be for the worse.
Shadow of the Colossus
Super Metroid
Castlevania: SotN
Super Mario 3
Resident Evil 4
Resident Evil 1
Mega Man X
Zelda: A Link to the past
Jumping Flash
Shadow of the Colossus
Super Metroid
Castlevania: SotN
Super Mario 3
Resident Evil 4
Resident Evil 1
Mega Man X
Zelda: A Link to the past
Jumping Flash
Not being an FPS would have helped. Don't get me wrong it was a fantastic game, just never struck me as Metroid. They could have changed a few enemies and the main character and I don't think anyone would have noticed and they could have marketed this as a new IP. I could tell they tried a little to use a metroid theme, and I appreciate that. But some games are as much their play style as they are their story.Terminate421 said:Can you name one thing that should be altered?
Didn't think so.
Yes I can think of two: I Made a Game With Zombies In It and Flower, "Hahaha but you, sean are wrong!" But I say nay, they are two game that set out to fill a certain niche and did so very well, perfectly you could say and managed to be fun at least to me. Of course there's the whole issue with opinion but honestly why would you dislike two games that seem to have no glitches and fantastic mechanics while still managing to be imaginative and original. Great soundtracks for both of them too, the ending to I Made a Game With Zombies In It made me tear up at the end.
Silent Hill 2 was perfect. This is not to say that it is without flaws (and I understand the previously made oxy-moron), it's just that all of the flaws fit in perfectly with the game's atmosphere.
For example, the combat is crappy. It's not so bad that you are practically defenseless, but you have the combat prowess of, well, a depressed widower with nothing to live for.
Another one; I'm not sure if it's a given for the translation from Japanese to English, or just a flaw in the engine, but ALL of the early Silent Hill games had these awkward pauses inbetween the swapping of dialogue. This was fairly offputting in the other games, but it actually fits in nicely with Silent Hill 2, because it's made very clear that everyone you encounter is horrible damaged or disconnected in some way, which reflects in the off-tempo way they deliver their lines.
Another one that most things couldn't get away with; loading screens before EACH ROOM. While this may sound annoying, they're usually only a few moments long, and provide just enough pause for you to beg that the first thing you hear isn't radio static.
All of these are added ON TOP of the already fantastic story, voice acting, aesthetic design, atmosphere, music, and characters. When the flaws actually compliment the material which they are in, then you've got perfection.
Then again, it's really a matter of my opinion.
However, I doubt that many would disagree if I were to say that Guy Cihi (the guy who did the voice for James Sunderland) is one of the greatest voice actors in a video game. Ever. I mean, he's up there with the guy who did JC Denton's voice. I fail to see how ANYONE else could possibly capture that character's voice as well as Mr. Cihi.
Oh, and how could I forget the classic?
For example, the combat is crappy. It's not so bad that you are practically defenseless, but you have the combat prowess of, well, a depressed widower with nothing to live for.
Another one; I'm not sure if it's a given for the translation from Japanese to English, or just a flaw in the engine, but ALL of the early Silent Hill games had these awkward pauses inbetween the swapping of dialogue. This was fairly offputting in the other games, but it actually fits in nicely with Silent Hill 2, because it's made very clear that everyone you encounter is horrible damaged or disconnected in some way, which reflects in the off-tempo way they deliver their lines.
Another one that most things couldn't get away with; loading screens before EACH ROOM. While this may sound annoying, they're usually only a few moments long, and provide just enough pause for you to beg that the first thing you hear isn't radio static.
All of these are added ON TOP of the already fantastic story, voice acting, aesthetic design, atmosphere, music, and characters. When the flaws actually compliment the material which they are in, then you've got perfection.
Then again, it's really a matter of my opinion.
However, I doubt that many would disagree if I were to say that Guy Cihi (the guy who did the voice for James Sunderland) is one of the greatest voice actors in a video game. Ever. I mean, he's up there with the guy who did JC Denton's voice. I fail to see how ANYONE else could possibly capture that character's voice as well as Mr. Cihi.
I've actually just been playing it for the first time, and honestly, the atrocious voice acting is probably my favorite part.xPixelatedx said:
Oh, and how could I forget the classic?
Homeworld 1 is the closest game to perfect. The UI has some issues though, Cataclysm UI seemed much better, and it hasn't aged quite as well graphically as it maybe could have. It doesn't look bad. Aesthetic is great, love how they wanted it to look, but textures are slightly too pixel-y and models slightly too blocky. So great, but not perfect.
Portal 1 is maybe a contender too. I can't think of what's wrong with it, but something is. It's one of the very few amazing games there are out there, just feels like there's so much unexplored territory that could hold even better stuff.
Portal 1 is maybe a contender too. I can't think of what's wrong with it, but something is. It's one of the very few amazing games there are out there, just feels like there's so much unexplored territory that could hold even better stuff.
4 pages and no one has said red dead redemption yet?
Ok, I mean nothing can ever be truly perfect, there's always some small flaws, but asides from possibly a control issue or two rdr is one of the best games of this generation, or even all time.
Ok, I mean nothing can ever be truly perfect, there's always some small flaws, but asides from possibly a control issue or two rdr is one of the best games of this generation, or even all time.
This. The story, characters, pacing, art design, gameplay, amount of content, especially the music, even the graphics. Simply sublime. I cannot think of any (major) criticisms for that game.Fappy said:
Though I wish now that there was a hard mode, it is a wee bit too easy.
