Castration. Really that simple. If you don't use something responsibly, it should be taken away. Plus it would diminish the sex drive, so probably less likely to rape again.
You know, I actually had this exact conversation with a couple of friends not too long ago. We came to the conclusion that public castration with rusty hedge-trimmers would definitely be one the best incentives against rape, despite being in equal part absolutely ludicrous.Dirty Hipsters said:So, I'm just going to throw this out here and we'll see how people react:
How about castration?
Thoughts?
I can see your point and admittedly I am biased but most people already know that there is a Prison hierarchy and the rapists and child molesters are the lowest of the low. So for a great deal of them if they are not segregated in with their own kind they will be abused at minimum and murdered often. If the thoughts of that don't stop them what chance will therapy and rehab have to stop them? There are already great swaths of places and areas in America that they can not live or visit. Soon at the rate we are going there will be separate towns or areas that are inhabited by sex offenders. While this may help us to keep a better eye on some of them it won't stop them from learning better ways to commit crimes and to embolden them. Wasting millions of dollars on imprisoning them for life is no better. Capital punishment may not be the only answer but we must do better than we are right now. The stigma of being a rape or molestation victim must be removed if we are to catch these predators.JoJo said:Perhaps it might embolden some victims, but it might have the opposite effect on others. Imagine you're little Suzie, who's being molested by her Dad and wishes he would stop but still loves him anyway. Would you think that knowing he would die if she reported him would make her more likely to report the abuse, or less? It would very likely increase families trying to hide abuse or rape and erroneously try to deal with it themselves rather than report a loved one to the authorities, as few people want to see a family member die, even if they are a scumbag.Dirge Eterna said:You are making the assumption that they care, think they will get caught or are coherent enough mentally to think about the consequences of their action afterwards when they were not able to do it before they committed the crime. A lot of rapes are not reported as it is, maybe with harsher punishment the victims will feel like they are actually accomplishing something by getting this monster off the streets for good. They already know that getting convicted for rape is a prison term yet that doesn't stop them. I don't think it would prevent all rape but it will make some of them think twice and at the very least prevent that person from doing it anymore.
Agreed. These people are messed up psychologically, and we really should seek to figure out what causes the problem and try to rehabilitate them so that they can be normal, productive members of society. Torture and capital punishment just seems like an overly emotional response to a heinous crime when you take into consideration how we better understand the psychology of criminals than ever before and our ability to rehabilitate them keeps getting better. Even if they aren't rehabilitated before they die, we at least would have a better understanding of their condition and possible treatments so that we are better capable of helping future criminals, and we at least can go away knowing we treated them humanely rather than lowering ourselves to their level.Baron_Rouge said:I dunno. I'm certainly not defending rape, nothing could be further from the truth. It's a reprehensible act, and I don't believe it can ever be justified. But at the same time, none of us have the same background, and none of us know what influences caused a rapist to commit rape. I think they'd have to be very messed up people, people who, through genetics or environment, have deviated so catastrophically from the norm. We make a choice to commit rape, but I don't think we really make a choice to be the sort of person who might commit rape. I think influences largely beyond our control do that, and as a result, I think to give them the death penalty would be wrong, and I believe torture is always wrong. In my opinion, imprisonment and rehabilitation is the only option. Just my two cents though. It certainly is a divisive issue. Hope I haven't offended anyone!
The main problem being that imho "the punishment fitting the crime" is a load of bullshit for sex crimes - at least here in the UK. Vigilante justice isn't recomended and isn't good as a social tool BUT when the justice system is ineffective its better than nothing.M920CAIN said:You forum people have a thing for punishing others dont'cha? Cut off hiss wee wee or plug her woo woo with sand? dunno... sounds right... or not.. who knows.. yey... violence with more violence is violent.
I second this.BathorysGraveland2 said:The first one, imprisonment and rehabilitation. To me, it's the only appropriate method in a civilised country. It also fits within my own personal morals and beliefs. Revenge and justice make great stories in fiction, but I despise them in reality.
Edit: Would be nice if you'd share your own opinion as well.
Could you provide a source for that? I support the idea of voluntary chemical castration for certain offenders (and possibly as a treatment for unconvicted people with certain paraphilic disorders too) and having such a clear statistic would be a great help for that positionputowtin said:Sterilization
It?s proven that convicted rapist/ sex offenders who accept sterilization are 99% less likely to offend again.
I agree to an extent, there certainly is no clear solution to this problem, I'm wary at the idea that further increasing the punishment of offenders would have any noticeable effect on crime rates though, especially as statistically it's believed as little as 1 in 10 sex offenders are actually even caught and convicted. Better education about more typical abuse or rape situations in schools (rather than "stranger danger") would be a good start, paired with research into treating people with an inclination towards sex crimes before they act. Rehab is edgier since they've already crossed that line at-least once but I believe it can be effective if the offender recognises what they did was wrong and is willing to change.Dirge Eterna said:I can see your point and admittedly I am biased but most people already know that there is a Prison hierarchy and the rapists and child molesters are the lowest of the low. So for a great deal of them if they are not segregated in with their own kind they will be abused at minimum and murdered often. If the thoughts of that don't stop them what chance will therapy and rehab have to stop them? There are already great swaths of places and areas in America that they can not live or visit. Soon at the rate we are going there will be separate towns or areas that are inhabited by sex offenders. While this may help us to keep a better eye on some of them it won't stop them from learning better ways to commit crimes and to embolden them. Wasting millions of dollars on imprisoning them for life is no better. Capital punishment may not be the only answer but we must do better than we are right now. The stigma of being a rape or molestation victim must be removed if we are to catch these predators.