Justice is not about punishment. It's about the safety of people. An eye for an eye is stupid and even creepy. Not to mention it has been proven senseless countless of times. Be the better person people.
Poll: How would you punish a rapist?
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I voted for death.
If the rapist is convicted beyond a shadow of doubt, then ensuring the safety of society by destroying the offender is the best option, in my opinion. If death is the punishment for rape, then rapists would be left with litle choice but to atone/abstain/change.
As to the assertion that rapists could concieveably turn to murdering victims to remove witnesses, rapists can and have killed their victims in the past for being able to identify them, even without a guaranteed death penalty. People who make such descisions are monsters. When found, they should be destroyed.
Mind you, I wasn't thinking about date rape or any other variants/situations. I am just considering convicted rapists.
What a cheery subject!
If the rapist is convicted beyond a shadow of doubt, then ensuring the safety of society by destroying the offender is the best option, in my opinion. If death is the punishment for rape, then rapists would be left with litle choice but to atone/abstain/change.
As to the assertion that rapists could concieveably turn to murdering victims to remove witnesses, rapists can and have killed their victims in the past for being able to identify them, even without a guaranteed death penalty. People who make such descisions are monsters. When found, they should be destroyed.
Mind you, I wasn't thinking about date rape or any other variants/situations. I am just considering convicted rapists.
What a cheery subject!
It's happened before, and that person was later found to be innocent.the December King said:
There is no such thing as 'beyond a shadow of doubt' when it comes to capital punishment.
Except it isn't.NameIsRobertPaulson said:
Seriously, jesus fuck this thread is full of people who don't even understand some of the most basic stuff that gets taught about rapists, why are they acting like they know how to solve the problem?
I don't care that I'm no better than he is. He still deserves to be thrown into the brazen bull for what he did.
Completly agree with you. In a totally perfect juristication, i would also not hesitate to remove certain subjects from our society.NameIsRobertPaulson said:
Well, of it's 100% clear an individual responsible really is a rapist, then I'm all for ironic punishment. Maybe castration?
By raping them. Personally.
I think rape might be the one crime where after someone has it done to them they'll never do it again.
I don't condone the an eye for an eye mentality but... raping a rapist just seems like the right way to go here followed by incarceration and rehabilitation.
I'm probably forgetting/overlooking something here, feel free to tell me why I'm wrong.
I think rape might be the one crime where after someone has it done to them they'll never do it again.
I don't condone the an eye for an eye mentality but... raping a rapist just seems like the right way to go here followed by incarceration and rehabilitation.
I'm probably forgetting/overlooking something here, feel free to tell me why I'm wrong.
And those instances are truly horrible! But, since this is more about what to do with rapists, instead of how to convict rapists, I stand by my descision.Daystar Clarion said:
EDIT: opinion, not descision. I'm not the governor, or anything!
Depends, someone who is 18+ who rapes someone else that is also 18+? Castration with a rusty potato peeler comes to mind.
Lets say someone who is 30 and rapes someone who is 11? Put him the most hardcore jail you got in your country (or hell, dump him in America if you don't) and 'accidently' misplace his file that might make his way to the rest of the population.
Lets say someone who is 30 and rapes someone who is 11? Put him the most hardcore jail you got in your country (or hell, dump him in America if you don't) and 'accidently' misplace his file that might make his way to the rest of the population.
I'd like ot see the exact crime committed against them. You rape someone with a broomstick? Well you get raped with a broomstick.
I'd do that for every crime. (all the ones like fraud and theft and the like would be financial restitution of the sum lost by the victim)
I'd do that for every crime. (all the ones like fraud and theft and the like would be financial restitution of the sum lost by the victim)
I don't believe in rehabilitation so I choose the third option. Specifically I'd have their balls chopped off with a rusty pizza cutter and force fed to them on a skillet.
Although that's true too. Fuck this blame the victim crap.thaluikhain said:
Given a vagina. Remove the penis. Turn em into a real Ladyboy. Women rapists... don't exist. They're just asertive sexual partners you didn't know you wanted.
Disclaimer: Obvious women rapists do exist and do cause serious psychological harm to the boys they do rape. Rape.
Disclaimer: Obvious women rapists do exist and do cause serious psychological harm to the boys they do rape. Rape.
I believe it should be a life long sentence. I don't really 'get' rehabilitation. Lock em up for years, they seem 'fine' and then let them out and good chance they'll rape again.
Not to say nobody has never been rehabilitated but I just don't get how we can tell.
Not to say nobody has never been rehabilitated but I just don't get how we can tell.
If there was other people watching then imprisonment and rehabilitation.
If we are outside society god help them.
Much like any other topic.
If we are outside society god help them.
Much like any other topic.
After enough offenses or after blatantly guilty offenses (caught in the act, caught on tape, etc.), I'd even be open to chemical castration. If they're going to use it as a weapon, the weapon needs to be taken away, especially in the case of doing this to children. I am not in favor of a sex change operation unless the individual requests it as an alternative.
I certainly believe in harsher punishments for rape but I've also seen false accusations of rape that have ruined good (or at least, non-rapist) men's lives. My wife went to school with one girl who claimed to have been raped on multiple occasions by almost every guy in her life. One time, she even claimed it had happened when she had been unaware that my wife could actually see her during the whole conversation (guess what? no rape happened). Our current legal system doesn't allow for a degree of certainty to be taken into account. The "I think they're guilty" does sometimes result in a guilty verdict in real life even if the "beyond a reasonable doubt" hasn't been met. A lot of rape cases end up having to be decided based on the word of the individuals. So some care does need to go into deciding when the harsher sentences should be employeed with the concept that the person needs to have the opportunity to appeal due to the flaws and the occasional lynch-mob mentality of our legal system.
In any event, the goal should be to protect society and our current methods are not doing that. Repeat offenders are legion, it seems.
I certainly believe in harsher punishments for rape but I've also seen false accusations of rape that have ruined good (or at least, non-rapist) men's lives. My wife went to school with one girl who claimed to have been raped on multiple occasions by almost every guy in her life. One time, she even claimed it had happened when she had been unaware that my wife could actually see her during the whole conversation (guess what? no rape happened). Our current legal system doesn't allow for a degree of certainty to be taken into account. The "I think they're guilty" does sometimes result in a guilty verdict in real life even if the "beyond a reasonable doubt" hasn't been met. A lot of rape cases end up having to be decided based on the word of the individuals. So some care does need to go into deciding when the harsher sentences should be employeed with the concept that the person needs to have the opportunity to appeal due to the flaws and the occasional lynch-mob mentality of our legal system.
In any event, the goal should be to protect society and our current methods are not doing that. Repeat offenders are legion, it seems.
Capital punishment -- they had their whole life to learn rape is intolerable and unacceptable, putting them in prison for life where they're treated well and nicely, or attempting to rehabilitate them and then putting them back out into the world with parole or not is just having us treating the rapist far better than he deserves rather than dealing with the issue decisively and immediately.
The most obvious one would be that a lot of people who commit crimes have had those crimes committed against them in the past. In many cases people "cope" with their trauma by doing it to another, to regain control over their life. Obviously not all rapists fit that category, but it is very common to see cycles in these kinds of things.AlexWinter said:
Most people who do no commit crimes against others have been taught to respect other people. Most who do have not. You don't often see people who are brought up in a loving, caring and secure environment turn out to be criminals. Of course it happens, but statistically they are in the minority by a long shot.
People who are abused or suffer and don't get the proper help find their own ways to deal with it, and in many cases they turn into the same kind of person they have suffered at the hands of.
It doesn't work because of the way prisons work. People fight to survive in prisons and that doesn't often result in people being able to adjust back in the "real world". It's like how military personnel often struggle when returning from tour. When you spend most of your day watching over your shoulder, or fighting for your life, it's not easy to readjust.DugMachine said:
The prisons systems across the world would need a complete overhaul to be effective in regards to rehabilitation.
Of course the problem with life imprisonment is that people outside prison are the ones keeping them there with their taxes. Some prisoners live more comfortably than non-criminals who work full-time. They don't have the same freedom, but they still have a higher quality of living.