Poll: Is your virginity worth saving?

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babinro

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Yes.
I consider sex to be the same as making love.
In my eyes it's something that is truly special.
I may well die a virgin because of my beliefs but without regrets.

IMO you shouldn't save yourself if you don't personally believe it's the right thing for you.
 

RazzleDazzle102

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Seeing as I recently (as of Friday) took the virginity of someone... I think as a man, virginity is fleeting thing and is basically a ticking time bomb that everyone is happy to see go off. As a women... the opposite.
The girl I slept with was definitely emotional about it and I feel like an ass cause it was just a one night stand to me.
I think women need to safeguard theres a little more cause CERTAIN women get incredibly attached to the first guy they fuck.
 

Kaytastrophe

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I would say no you shouldn't save sex for marriage, at the same time I wouldn't say just give your virginity away. Theoretically marriage is a lifelong commitment and you want to make sure you are sexually compatible with the one person you will be having sex with for the rest of your life. At the same time I would think you wouldn't want to give it to someone who didn't mean anything to you. You want to give it to someone who means something to you.
 

uzo

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Nope, saved my virginity for the guy I was engaged to, he turned out to be a wife beating bastard.

Not to be cynical and bitter but people live much longer than they used to. Expecting someone to be the same person and never change for 50 odd years is pretty crazy. Not to mention you might change too.

That said sex gets much better in a long term relationship. I have nothing against those ;)

Save your virginity or not doesn't bother me. But be careful of thinking that the person you lose it with will be around forever because shit happens, usually to good people.
Sorry to hear that.

And your comments are dead on the money for me - particularly that whole 'living longer' thing. I think it ties in to a huge range of marriage-related issues.

In the Middle Ages (where much of our idea of 'courtly', 'pure' love come from) women, often quite literally, were bought and sold by their families. If you were married off at 14 to a man you'd never met before, you'd had 12 kids by 30 (6 of whom were stillborn or died before age 3); most of your teeth had fallen out by the ripe old age of 31; and you'd started coughing up blood over the last few months and there was a strange lump on your left breast; the idea of putting up with a husband for another few years (at most!) wasn't so bad because, frankly, you'd be dead soon. As he would be as well.

These days, families aren't even considering children until some point *beyond average life expectancy* for those bad ol' days.

The concept of virginity - in particular the female variety - is a throwback to days of yore.

However, that said, my wife is pregnant with my second child now - a daughter. For all my talk of 'bah humbug that's old fashioned nonsense!' you can guarantee that I, as her father,


WILL BE WATCHING HER LIKE AN UNLIDDED EYE WREATHED IN FLAMES AT THE SUMMIT OF A BLACK TOWER

That's another point of view no one seems to be considering - sure, virginity is an individual's choice ... but as the soon-to-be-father of a girl I'll honestly tell everyone here that I'd be a lot more suspicious of her boyfriends than I would of my son's girlfriends (presuming they are both hetero of course). I don't care if you call me a hypocrite - at least I'm an honest one.
 

albedo

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Is your virginity worth saving? Well if you are a mediocre-attractive women then apparently it is worth thousands of dollars.

In the end, do what you want. Whether it is worth something is entirely up to the individual.
 

Murmillos

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no. loose that shit. take the proper precautions (condoms) but for fuck sakes, just get it over with.
 

Icehearted

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Yes and no. One way to look at it is like passing a lollipop around to a bunch of other guys before popping it into my own mouth, but that doesn't go both ways (physiologically and psychologically sex is vastly different between the genders, and by virtue virginity). I don't care who's doing what with whom, but I don't want to be a part of the social orgy, literally or metaphorically.

Virginity isn't necessary, but well used human toilet holds no appeal at all. I've also got a problem with raising some other man's unwanted kids because she couldn't care less who she's putting out to or what comes of that, or worse yet, being involved with someone with kids and their father(s) are still in the family; because there's nothing as romantic as being a 3rd wheel in a preexisting family, right?

I digress.
 

albedo

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uzo said:
However, that said, my wife is pregnant with my second child now - a daughter. For all my talk of 'bah humbug that's old fashioned nonsense!' you can guarantee that I, as her father,


WILL BE WATCHING HER LIKE AN UNLIDDED EYE WREATHED IN FLAMES AT THE SUMMIT OF A BLACK TOWER

That's another point of view no one seems to be considering - sure, virginity is an individual's choice ... but as the soon-to-be-father of a girl I'll honestly tell everyone here that I'd be a lot more suspicious of her boyfriends than I would of my son's girlfriends (presuming they are both hetero of course). I don't care if you call me a hypocrite - at least I'm an honest one.
I dont remember where I heard this quote, but I think it applies here. Goes something along the lines of:

"daughters are God's punishment on fathers for being men"

(the quote is meant to be used for comedy)
 

Denamic

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We're not living in medieval times any more.
If you want to guard your virginity, that's fine, but there should never be any rules about whether you should or shouldn't guard it. It's private business that no one else has any say about.
 

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BangSmashBoom said:
Me and my family have a saying, ¡§Marriage and Christmas have a few things in common, unwrapping your present before the big special day is a ¡§VERY BAD IDEA!¡¨ So obviously us all including me say yes, it¡¦s definitely worth saving, and I¡¦m still planning on saving my ¡§Virginity¡¨ for my future wife, and for countless other reasons of course, but obviously I¡¦m probably the only that feels this way, so I ask you guys¡K Do ¡§YOU¡¨ personally feel that your virginity is worth saving, and why?
I was also wondering if you guys also feel that most wives would appreciate the fact that their husbands saved their virginity for them as a gift to her of loyalty, patience and self-disciple; and same for the husbands appreciating the fact that his wife saved her virginity for him as a gift as well.
Last thing where I come from, we believe that fornication is just as bad as Adultery, don¡¦t ask me why, I didn¡¦t write the Bible, I¡¦m not trying to guilt or convert anyone, I¡¦m just trying to help you guys understand my belief system; the only way I can understand that it says that fornication is just as bad as adultery is, for me I believe that if you have sex before you¡¦re married, your cheating on the one that God has planned for you, so I don¡¦t know about you guys but for me I love my wife as much as I can love another person, and I¡¦ve never even met her yet ¡§as least I don¡¦t think so¡¨, because I believe that if God wants me to marry, that he¡¦ll reward me with the wife that I so dearly desire, as long as I stay faithful to him. ?º
You don't need to feel the need to save it for a spouse or some "perfect" person but feeling as though it is something you need to be ashamed of or throw away as quick as possible is just as wrong. When a good opportunity presents itself then give it up but don't feel pressured and certainly don't do something you'll regret. Once it is gone, it's gone after all and while it might not be a tangible thing, it is very much a part of who you are, whether it becomes a source of strength and pride or a source of weakness and shame are completely up to you and how you choose to live your life and perceive things. I think it shows an incredible moral character to be willing to refrain from sex despite having no religious obligations holding one back. These are of course just my personal beliefs and while I might not agree with some of the concepts in your religion, I certainly respect what you have chosen for yourself and wish you the best of luck.
 

Squilookle

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If it's that important to you then yeah, I guess.

My reasoning is that sex is fun, safe when done responsibly, and above all something that gets better and easier with repetition (like most anything), so to deny yourself that fun and experience is just a silly idea. I'd actually see it as almost cruel marrying someone and subjecting them to sex with a complete novice, no matter the age.

Remember that 'never kissed before marriage' couple?


Now imagine that with sex. Nobody deserves that.
 

Serinanth

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As it was said before, it's only as important as you make it and what ideas were crammed in your young mind and if they took root.

I also agree that getting married before you know your lover intimately is a bad idea. I tell you what, going to bed and even just lying next her is one of the best parts of my day even if we don't have sex. But that level of intimacy and familiarity we have would not be there if we were abstaining. All there would be is pent up needs and desires we would be stifling. And for what? To appease an invisible man that supposedly gave us those need and desires just to be a dick to us to see if we could hold out? I grew up catholic, confirmation and all but it just did not take root, it was just not who I am. It obviously works for some people and that's great. But for me sex has been and still is a fairly important part of my relationships it builds intimacy, trust, and respect in each of us. I will blame that on an equally inane belief, in that it has something to do with me being a Scorpio.

I found this thread also amusing as she was watching the Family Guy ear sex episode as I was leaving for work =)
 

90sgamer

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To adequately understand the issue one has to understand both viewpoints.

Proponents of virginity-saving rely on emotional appeals. They frame it as an issue of loyalty to their future spouse, obedience to God, and because they believe sex for the first time will be more gratifying if you wait until trying it with someone you love. None of these are based on the tenets of logical reasoning.

Firstly, one cannot be loyal to a person they have no knowledge of. To be loyal to someone means that you act in accordance with their wishes. If you have no knowledge of someone then you have no knowledge of what their wishes are. Your future wife might wish for you to be an experienced and skilled lover. How many things have you done skillfully on your first try? How many skills have you honed sharply with only one perspective from which to critique? You might say that you only need one perspective from which to hone your skill if that is the only perspective you are trying to satisfy. This is false because that perspective, your spouse, does not know what he or she does not know. How many people have lived their lives never searching for the G-spot because they didn't know it was there? How many men and women never said to their partners "play with my anus while you fuck me" because it never occurred to them that it magnifies the sensation happening in their other genitals, and no one ever told them? How many people have never experimentation with sensory deprivation, role playing or asphyxiation? We are only the sum of our experiences and nothing more.

Second, the Bible was written by men and is not the word of God. However, the Bible is very real as a written document and it is surrounded by a context. To understand why the Bible's authors want you to save your virginity is to understand why the authors thought it worth writing. At the time the Bible was written there was no technology for contraception, and there was no reasonably safe or reliable way to abort pregnancies; therefore, having sex = making babies, every time, no matter what. It was and is in the interest of society not to have single mothers raising hoards of children on their own. It would be much better if every woman with children also had a man to share the burdens of raising children and contributing to society. If religion is seen as a tool of social control, which is exactly what it was and is, then suddenly many of God's directives and commandments make perfect sense because they just happen to be necessary for society to exist peacefully and thrive in those ancient times. The authors obviously wanted to enforce solid family units because it was to benefit society. As time changes so does the human social matrix; unfortunately, the Bible has not changed. Interpretation of the Bible changes, but there is only so much you can do to change the meaning of things otherwise stated plainly. In this particular issue, sex no longer means having children. Contraception makes the liklihood of child-making relatively low and abortion takes care of those times when contraception fails. Suddenly, two uncommitted people having sex does not lead to the destruction of society, as it would have before contraception and safe, reliable abortions. This particular tenet set forth by the bible is now out of date and no longer necessary.

Lastly, Sex for the first time is almost never gratifying for either party. It may be an overall pleasant experience, it may have a positive emotional impact, but anyone who says their first time having sex was their best sexual experience ever is either a liar, or has only had sex once. Speaking only for myself, I didn't have sex until well into adult hood and it was with someone I loved deeply. The experience was awful and she was dried out and remained unfulfilled before I stopped, unfulfilled myself. I later learned to become a very good lover indicating that my first experience is not a representation of what would be a trend for me. It's just that doing something, anything, for the first time typically is done unskillfully.

There are some good reasons not to wait for marriage.

First, sex is fun, healthy and it feels good. Both parties are engaging in a physical activity, receiving validation of their attractive worth, and getting an orgasm.

Second, becoming a good lover is something learned with experience. No amount of studying on the internet or porn-watching will prepare a person for being a sex god in bed, master of multiple body shaking orgasms. I for one plan to rock my partner's world from the first time until the day one of us dies.

Third, you are not guaranteed a wife or a future. People die and that is a fact. leaving things off until tomorrow means you take the risk of depriving yourself of that thing forever. Your only get one chance to live before you die and once you die that's it. What happens after death? Easy: it's the same thing that happens before you were formed in a test tube. Do you recall what it felt like before being born? There you go.

Last, marriage is not for everyone. Some people do not want to be married. Maybe they have attachment issues, maybe they hate the opposite sex, maybe they are not religious (marriage is a religious ritual...) or maybe they know they would be unsuitable as a spouse.

I would like to conclude by suggesting that there is only one good reason to hold off on sex (not the same as waiting for marriage): there is no way to guarantee that sex will not result in a baby other than removing or severing sexual organs completely, which is permanent and not reversible. From a female perspective, this is not a problem if you are OK with abortion and have the funds to foot the bill. From a male's perspective this makes sex a risky proposition. The decision to abort or not is not yours to make, and even if your partner claims they would abort a fetus there is no assurance they won't change their mind. You risk being legally obligation to provide financial assistance for a child for 18 years, in America. Therefore, for males, the only safe time to have sex is when you want a baby with your partner. At all other times it's a risk. This applies to married people as well. Being married =/= ready to have babies.
 

maidenm

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I'll say no, for many reasons I'll try to explain.

I don't think virginity is a thing really. A social concept maybe, but not a thing. And I don't believe society should have anything to do with what you do with your own body.
I don't think sex is that much of a big deal, but the first time you do it should be, on a personal level. I myself am a virgin atm, but I am looking forward to loosing it, and I'm not going to wait until marrige if I can help it!
Also, since marrige has come up, I really think that waiting until the wedding night is... naïve to say the least. If you marry someone you do it because you love them (I hope) and you know them like you know yourself (I hope). So why wuoldn't you want to know everything about your partner, including their sexual preferences? And your own? Seriously, what if one of you turn out to have a really far out fetish that the other is repulsed by? Smaller things can create a rift between couples. Not saying that you can't work it out, it just feels like it would cause uneccessary troubled between the "happy" couple.

I read a book where the main character said something I think explains my feelings about virginity, let's see if I can remember it...

"It was then that she realised that she was a virgin. She had slept with many men throughout her life, but she had never once made love."

Not an exact quote, but good enough. My point is, it's you and your partner who makes it special, not your previous experiences of lack therof.

Captcha: Do it now! xD
 

LGC Pominator

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Honestly the question seems rather odd on the face of it, I mean sex is sex, it is fun, generally shared between two consenting adults.

If I ended up in a committed relationship with a woman who I 'loved' and I wasn't able to satisfy her because I hadn't been playing the field for the preceding years of my life, surely that would be worse?

the whole concept of virginity as being some sort of valuable thing rather than a definition of the status of your sex life is entirely backwards, and a holdover from religious times, I think that for the most part the human race has outgrown those sorts of superstitious approaches to the act of getting it on.

I think however that it is worth noting that the way you have framed it in the original post: similar to a Christmas present, speaks volumes to the way in which you as an individual perceive the act of sex, as some form of gift that you need to wait for and receive when the time is right, which is fair enough, I know others with similar ideas about it, hell between 12 and 15 I thought like that, however sooner or later you will probably end up with someone you like and it happens naturally, because that is what we, as humans do to relax; we screw, and we enjoy it.

tl;dr: enjoy yourself, you have no reason not to, sex is not going to change who you are as a person, but it will add something to do with your time that you can enjoy with another adult
 

Marcus Kehoe

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There is nothing wrong with saving your virginity, it may not be right for the times, but fuck the times. If you want to hold out for marriage, or the right person, or just don't want to have sex yet then don't have it. It's not like 25% of the Us doesn't have herpes.
 

Strazdas

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White Lightning said:
What's with all the weird ass characters in your post? Like... I just don't understand.
hes probably using some untraditional browser that does not use UTF.


Virginity is just a word we use to define people who never had sex. For woman there is a biological condition that changes afterwards, for men there isnt. but neither are important. infact, most women claim that they feel much better after the change.
Itsl ike saying "is red worth saving". red is definition of a type of colour. it doesnt have a "worth saving" or "not worth saving". its just a definition of condition.
 

Zack Alklazaris

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I didn't lose mine till I was 21. I was saving myself till I found someone special that I'd want to marry, but not saving myself till marriage. I believe you need to "test the waters" before making a big decision like marriage and that includes seeing how the sex is.

I will say while some women found a 20 year old virgin insanely attractive. Its really not worth it. I just seem to have issues with sex because I never had to work for it. At 21 she was practically giving it away so all I had to do was go for it. No work involved, no late night dreams about doing it I just did it when I wanted it. So I have very little interests in boobs or spooning.

I guess you could say I'm spoiled rotten... some how.
 

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BangSmashBoom said:
Personally, it'd be nice to save it for someone I truly cared about, however I disagree with waiting till marriage. Actually, I don't like the idea of marriage at all, it doesn't make sense to me.

On the other hand though, I'm pretty bored of masturbating now and I really do feel like I'm missing out. They say that virginity is only a big deal until you lose it, but they also say that the grass is much greener on the other side and it's looking pretty darn green to me right now. Somebody needs to have a word with this 'they' about being so damn contradictory!
[small]"on the other hand..." that's just terrible, please forgive me![/small]
 

Wolf-AUS

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It's a pretty loaded question that I don't think can be as clear cut as a definite yes or no.

I myself was always thinking that I was going to save it for someone special. Then when I lost it, I didn't even get the girl I slept withs name. I never once regretted it and while I'll probably remember it for a long time it doesn't bring me any sadness that it wasn't with the love of my life, quite the contrary actually, because I'm now no longer worried about how to do this or what if I can't find the the hole, or all the other questions guys and more in particular virgins (I sure know I did) tend to ask themselves. All those wild scenarios that go through your head where you've got no idea what to do, well, they've all vanished for me.

On the other side of the coin, I can entirely see why someone would want to save their sex for someone special. I find it a very intimate and personal thing to share with someone, exploring each others bodies and all that. Through my experience with sex, it means so incredibly much more if you are emotionally invested as well as physically attracted to the person you're about to make love to. So I would never, ever consider thinking less about someone because they feel like they want to save themselves for a certain someone. I have the utmost respect for them.

In short, I don't see virginity as a big thing, regardless of gender. But I completely understand and respect people's morals and wishes to save themselves for a very significant other. I honestly couldn't vote either way in the poll, so I left my box un-ticked :)