Poll: Lying to get laid is OK?
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No and no.MasTerHacK said:
Firstly, you will get caught. Period. Secondly and more importantly, people talk to each other, and they LOVE to talk to each other about how other people are liars. The damage other people can do to your reputation will eventually make your chances of getting laid less likely in the future, even if your lies were initially successful. It's fine to want to get laid, but do it honestly. Wouldn't you rather that people you have slept with be spreading positive things about you, rather than negative things?
I Concur!CM156 said:
Lying to someone for a one night stand is disgusting, (just get a whore!) but lying to someone you care about for sex is just horrible and cruel.
I never lie.
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Now that is a ok lie to tell someone but really if you have to lie to someone to get them into bed then that is kind of pathetic.
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Now that is a ok lie to tell someone but really if you have to lie to someone to get them into bed then that is kind of pathetic.
It truly depends on the lie.
There's a difference between "I'm a millionaire philanthopist who saves orphans" and "I totally love this club, too".
There's a difference between "I'm a millionaire philanthopist who saves orphans" and "I totally love this club, too".
Err, I guess that really just goes with your morality. Do I think that would be okay? Not in the least. Even if you don't care about the girl, I have learned that lies lead to bad things 90% of the time. It'll just make things a big mess.
Also, as others stated exactly what type of lie? Really it depends on this mostly.
Also, as others stated exactly what type of lie? Really it depends on this mostly.
I think some people take this out of context a bit: "STD" "rape" and so on - that's totally out of context. If you are lying about this, the lying part is the smallest problem.
Also, alot of puritans: "lying for sex is douchebag". Hit the club scene and you'll find yourself lying pretty soon. But again, don't think that "lie" is anything else than something small or exagerations.
Basically it all depends on the situation and how much of an ass you are - if you care/are sensible to the person you are picking up.
Also, alot of puritans: "lying for sex is douchebag". Hit the club scene and you'll find yourself lying pretty soon. But again, don't think that "lie" is anything else than something small or exagerations.
Basically it all depends on the situation and how much of an ass you are - if you care/are sensible to the person you are picking up.
It's complicated enough that I think we can take it on a case by case basis.
Lying about having an STD, or even neglecting to mention that you have an STD when you know you do is wrong. In fact, it's illegal.
To a lesser extent (i.e. it's not illegal but still pretty douchey) the same goes about lying about a vasectomy, lying about your relationship status or otherwise lying about something which might actually come back and bite them later on.
Pretending to want a relationship with someone when you don't. Yeah, it can be kind of harsh, but people really shouldn't be so naive.
Lying about inconsequential things is kind of expected a lot of the time. People just need to learn to be mildly skeptical of strangers, because we all lie to each other or exaggerate things in order to come off better. If someone tells you something and that makes you willing to jump into bed with them immediately, then that's your choice, but you probably should be prepared for the possibility they weren't being entirely honest.
I'm thinking of one specific case in Israel where a Palestinian man was accused of rape because he changed his surname to make it sound more Jewish and then a Jewish woman had a one night stand with him without bothering to check. Really, that's not what the law or social judgement is for. You're responsible for whether you believe what other people tell you, unless they're putting you at risk by lying to you.
Lying about having an STD, or even neglecting to mention that you have an STD when you know you do is wrong. In fact, it's illegal.
To a lesser extent (i.e. it's not illegal but still pretty douchey) the same goes about lying about a vasectomy, lying about your relationship status or otherwise lying about something which might actually come back and bite them later on.
Pretending to want a relationship with someone when you don't. Yeah, it can be kind of harsh, but people really shouldn't be so naive.
Lying about inconsequential things is kind of expected a lot of the time. People just need to learn to be mildly skeptical of strangers, because we all lie to each other or exaggerate things in order to come off better. If someone tells you something and that makes you willing to jump into bed with them immediately, then that's your choice, but you probably should be prepared for the possibility they weren't being entirely honest.
I'm thinking of one specific case in Israel where a Palestinian man was accused of rape because he changed his surname to make it sound more Jewish and then a Jewish woman had a one night stand with him without bothering to check. Really, that's not what the law or social judgement is for. You're responsible for whether you believe what other people tell you, unless they're putting you at risk by lying to you.
Pretty much this.surg3n said:
Kind of surprised at all the outright NO answers here, plus all the "If you lie, you are automatically a pathetic douche".
Sure, there are plenty of lies you really shouldn't be telling. Anything outright boastful is out, as is anything about STDs. But untrue compliments are pretty much expected, as are many other little things, and it's part of life that we don't always tell the 100% truth, and that's a good thing.
Yes it is. Always. It's human nature and it doesn't hurt anyone. It's just sex, and it feels good. Fuck those moralists with their double standards.
What do you mean by lie?
Do you mean: "I love you"? Or do you mean "I want to start a relationship with you"? Or "I don't have any STDs, what're you talking about?" or "I'm not married!" or even "I care about you?"
All those lies are, in my opinion, immoral. You are tricking someone to get sex. While that is not rape, it is a jerk thing to do.
Other lies like "I really AM a stockbroker" are still jerk things to do, but if someone is willing to sleep with someone because they think they're a stockbroker, they probably won't be emotionally devastated.
If someone is looking for casual sex, little tiny lies aren't TOO bad. Still wrong, but more of a mischievous-kind of wrong. But if you lie to someone by pretending to love them or to have an emotional attachment, or if you lie to them to get them emotionally attached to you, that's wrong. Again, not something I would throw you in jail for (unless you lie about STDs, which in that case, I WOULD throw you in jail), but a scummy, jerky thing to do.
Don't use the excuse that "other people do it!". Are you willing to let your moral standards be set by what other people do? If so, consider the possibility that you have no morals at all.
Do you mean: "I love you"? Or do you mean "I want to start a relationship with you"? Or "I don't have any STDs, what're you talking about?" or "I'm not married!" or even "I care about you?"
All those lies are, in my opinion, immoral. You are tricking someone to get sex. While that is not rape, it is a jerk thing to do.
Other lies like "I really AM a stockbroker" are still jerk things to do, but if someone is willing to sleep with someone because they think they're a stockbroker, they probably won't be emotionally devastated.
If someone is looking for casual sex, little tiny lies aren't TOO bad. Still wrong, but more of a mischievous-kind of wrong. But if you lie to someone by pretending to love them or to have an emotional attachment, or if you lie to them to get them emotionally attached to you, that's wrong. Again, not something I would throw you in jail for (unless you lie about STDs, which in that case, I WOULD throw you in jail), but a scummy, jerky thing to do.
Don't use the excuse that "other people do it!". Are you willing to let your moral standards be set by what other people do? If so, consider the possibility that you have no morals at all.
Well, damn. Some of these cats need to take notes from you, sir.GreatTeacherCAW said:
Unless you're lying about STD's, I don't think it's a problem. If all it's just for sex, and only sex, I'm not concerned.
The romantic in me says you're probably better off being honest when trying to get laid.
The cynic in me says that most long-term relationships (including marriages) are fundamentally built on lies, so if that's how you hook up in the first place, your relationship's off to a solid start.
The cynic in me says that most long-term relationships (including marriages) are fundamentally built on lies, so if that's how you hook up in the first place, your relationship's off to a solid start.