Poll: Teen sues school over "wigger day"
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Come on, it's easy to see her point. This railing against so-called 'political correctness' is so often misapplied and just used as an excuse to be insensitive or rude. Sure, you have a right to say what you want, and therefore a right to offend, but is it RIGHT to offend? That's the issue. The whole 'political correctness' myth hinges on a mentality that 'rightness' and 'legality' are synonymous. They aren't, a large percentage of the time. It is pure selfishness to live your life at the expense of others when simple REASON, CONSIDERATION and CARE would erase the entire problem. You're not being 'oppressed' if, due to consideration for others, you choose appropriate times and places for your various actions.
How much drugs/alcohol/brain damage did these people have when they thought this was a good idea?
B-Rye said:
So what's the big deal with Fox? I mean, they're doing what a News Organization is supposed to do, cover events happening around our country. I mean why is everyone jumping on Fox for putting up an article about this? The Huffington Post did it, so did the Minneapolis Star Tribune. I'm sure more news agencies have covered it too, it's probably on Fark too. Why are we attacking Fox for reporting this?Baneat said:
I don't understand, Bill O'Reilly hasn't done a primetime special, it wasn't covered on the morning show (Fox and Friends I think?). It was just a bit article covered on their website. Other websites are reporting virtually the exact [http://www.globalpost.com/dispatches/globalpost-blogs/weird-wide-web/wigger-day-minnesota-school-sued] same [http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/08/03/wigger-day-red-wing-minnesota_n_916323.html] thing [http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/08/black_alumnus_sues_high_school_over_wednesday_wigg.php], and in some cases covering the Schools Rebuttal [http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2011/08/03/286950/a-wigger-homecoming-officials-at-predominantly-white-high-school-defend-theme-mocking-black-people/] to the incident and we're jumping Fox News shit for having the audacity to put a pretty decent straightforward article on their website.
I mean Fox isn't bullshitting it or making it up, a lawsuit has been filed (July 29) and hell might actually go to court rather than get settled out of court.
I guess this is the only way to describe itJegsimmons said:
Shouldn't the school be more concerned about providing its students with a proper education than putting on superfluous events that may be racially insensitive?
Ok, yeah. That's just dumb. The school thinking that day is a good idea. If it was at a private school....well, it would still be dumb but I wouldn't care what those private morons want to do. But at a public school? But what's just as bad, trying to get $75,000 in damages. For what? Being an alum of a stupid school? Sorry. No dice.
pretty stupid decision on part of the school. I expect they'll reach some kind of settlement in which the school admits wrongdoing but doesn't pay much in damages
It just looks like a minor article to me, and calling out a school for its retardedly offensive "holiday" seems like decent reporting for me.
Not a fan of FOX either, but they don't seem to be focusing much on it to me, at least not according to their site. The main front page article is about Syria, and the main US page article is about Warren Jeffs.B-Rye said:
It just looks like a minor article to me, and calling out a school for its retardedly offensive "holiday" seems like decent reporting for me.
On other news articles, it says that she (and others) made plenty of complaints during the time of the problem, and she even talked to the super attendant of the school district - who said he'd do something about the racial insensitivity.w1ndscar said:
But the school did nothing when the students opened a pro-wigger-day facebook page, and did nothing to stop it in the school, itself.
... Besides all that, it takes money and a job to afford a lawyer. Both of which were hard to find in the last few years.
I noticed that also. Nothing is wrong with this article at all, but my humble opinion remains that they are giving this the time of day (no matter how little) when that same energy put into this article could have been used to shed light on other issues that deal with issues of today, not a case dealing with the personal grievances of an individual regarding events from over a year ago.dyre said:
I know a news agency is supposed to maximize output and following, and they are doing their job. I just think other issues deserve focus.
Sure, we and anyone else talking about this article are the only ones likely aware of it, and we're spending our time debating the merits of the issue, the case itself, and whether or not this is relevant from a journalism standpoint. Imagine if this forum was a discussion about say raising the debt level, wall street controversy, etc (regardless of where we stand on those issues).
I sort of see this discussion entering the roundabout, but there it is.
But the suit was filed last week, so that makes it news. And I'm sure the article is quite relevant to some people (albeit probably not the kind of people who read or watch FOX), who may be similarly offended. Seriously, how offensive does it need to be for you to consider it news? Does the private school have to segregate bathrooms or something?B-Rye said:
As for news organizations having to report only "important" issues, you're using impossibly idealistic standards, not relative ones. Name one news organization in which EVERY article is of a worthy and important topic.
I'm not sure what you're getting at regarding imagining if the forum was about raising the debt level (and why would it be? we already raised it
). Seems like it would a pretty boring forum compared to a forum about gaming-and-other-stuff.FOX sucks, but this seems like selective hatred to me. Btw, CNN also reported on it.
It could very well be implied that she's suing over the concept, not so much the act as it was currently taking place. Atleast the way the article is worded.Arluza said:
Second, just because fox news posts it doesn't mean its not true, before you start making hasty decisions why not just keep your opinions to yourself about the number 1 rated news network. I have yet to see any false news reports mind you I don't watch and obsess over it and trying to prove it wrong. Not saying you do, just that a lot of people do and anything has flaws if you look at it close enough.
Very long post to reply to multiple people at once as so not to spam the thread incoming!
As long as it's not purposefully done in a cruel mocking tone, there's no reason said days cannot happen. I find the whole gay stereotype as funny as a straight person would, people need to stop being so politically correct these days - it's probably more offensive you'd think we would be offended by all this in the first place!
I don't know how the school was intending it, considering the name - it sounds like they were aiming for just joking around with the idea of the stereotype and not outright hatred, but it came out very wrong.
intheweeds said:
I would like to draw attention to the fact, myself - would not be offended - and considering I come under said minority being bisexual leaning gay myself with plenty of gay friends who have agreed that it's not offensive to us at all. I would find the whole thing amusing as hell! Sure a stereotype is wrong - it's meant to be, everyone knows that. It's why the day would be like it is - just to prove that it is all meant to be all in good fun and joke.corneth said:
As long as it's not purposefully done in a cruel mocking tone, there's no reason said days cannot happen. I find the whole gay stereotype as funny as a straight person would, people need to stop being so politically correct these days - it's probably more offensive you'd think we would be offended by all this in the first place!
To be honest - in this case maybe you're right, this was just out of pure ignorance and it should just be canceled not leading to a whole lawsuit BUT I think being able to laugh at yourself is very important, if we don't we're clearly taking life too seriously! With that all said, there's doing it as a friendly joke and there's doing it to what they think white people alone will find funny - it should be done so even the minority themselves can smile and understand the joke. Using the term 'wigger' was a step too far.Imp Emissary said:
After considering everything and the name of the day - this day probably was simply born of ignorance and stupidity (see a quoted poster above who agreed) and really he was right in saying you can't sue people for ignorance but still, there's a 'terrible' stereotype which would be cruel and mocking to do, and then only doing it jokingly. I think this school wasn't aiming to be as mocking as they appeared to be. If they were then sure they can go ahead and be sued - but this is a school we're talking about, they were probably just encouraging kids to try and act out stereotypes to prove that they know that stereotypes are all a big joke and wrong. Hell! If I was going to one of those days as a minority I'd act the opposite of who I am just to prove they can understand it's all in good fun.krazykidd said:
I'll finish up with your quote and say my whole point is - this entire situation can be taken one of two ways: As 'the school was racist and terrible' - in which case, if they were intending the day to be like that then OK, sue the hell out of them and fire any idiot who came up with the idea. OR. They were trying to get people to act out the stereotype so people will understand that a stereotype should not be taken seriously, hence why they're having a day mocking the ignorant idea of taking a stereotype seriously.supermariner said:
I don't know how the school was intending it, considering the name - it sounds like they were aiming for just joking around with the idea of the stereotype and not outright hatred, but it came out very wrong.