Don't. It's not your fault at all. :3BloatedGuppy said:You were SO right. It went totally off the rails around page 3. I feel terrible!
Don't. It's not your fault at all. :3BloatedGuppy said:You were SO right. It went totally off the rails around page 3. I feel terrible!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Causes_of_transsexualismBradeck said:I respect the opinions of everyone on here, however I view this in the same light as Creationism. Please don't say it's "factual" that a person is "born in the wrong body". There is no science that proves the case for transgendered individuals claiming I'm a x in y body. None. No empirical facts, no note worthy studies, no hard, honest, scientific discourse. The same scientists who claim science backs this up are the same people who claimed 200 years ago that the world was flat, leeches cure diseases, dragons exist, and a 400 year old zombie Jewish male died on a cross for all man kind. I wonder what "science" will proclaim in the next century.
I have no, NO, problem with you chopping off body parts, adding new ones, changing you name from Susannah to Shaun, and taking hormone injections. I have no problem if you go out and sleep with anyone you want to, granted you do it safely. I have NO problem if you want a society that tolerates these types of choices. Get married, life together, sleep together, go nuts. But don't claim there is evidence to support x person was born in the wrong body. Because it's all about FEELING. And FEELINGS don't belong in science.
What? I don't understand you statement. Can you clarify?twohundredpercent said:Okay so: pleasure trannies sexually, call them whatever they want to be called, and don't expect honesty out of any relationship with them or else I'm intolerant and might as well go around chopping up mixed race couples. Got it.
Psychology is a science. Neuroscience is a science. Brains are physically extant objects. We are learning to understand neural structure and development. We are learning to understand the role of chemicals in controlling emotions, especially with regards to drug and pharmaceutical use.Bradeck said:I respect the opinions of everyone on here, however I view this in the same light as Creationism. Please don't say it's "factual" that a person is "born in the wrong body". There is no science that proves the case for transgendered individuals claiming I'm a x in y body. None. No empirical facts, no note worthy studies, no hard, honest, scientific discourse. The same scientists who claim science backs this up are the same people who claimed 200 years ago that the world was flat, leeches cure diseases, dragons exist, and a 400 year old zombie Jewish male died on a cross for all man kind. I wonder what "science" will proclaim in the next century.
I have no, NO, problem with you chopping off body parts, adding new ones, changing you name from Susannah to Shaun, and taking hormone injections. I have no problem if you go out and sleep with anyone you want to, granted you do it safely. I have NO problem if you want a society that tolerates these types of choices. Get married, life together, sleep together, go nuts. But don't claim there is evidence to support x person was born in the wrong body. Because it's all about FEELING. And FEELINGS don't belong in science.
Come on now, (not trying to offend) you can't have it both ways. You can't say that transgender people should have the right to live and be as they please like anyone else only to later disagree with the choice of people who refuse to consider a relationship with a transgender person. They have a right to their choices as well.TheDarkestDerp said:Pretty sad results on the poll, if not unexpected.
"was married..."Well, I'm technically a hermaphrodite and I was married to a MTF transgendered person, so, there you go.
If you truly 'love' someone, what they are isn't going to matter. I loved her before I knew what crockery was in her cupboards and when I did know I didn't care. Why would I? She was what she was and I loved her for the person she was, not the thing. She was a gamer, a geek, a fetishist and a dancing fool with a great sense of humor and some sense of social propriety. I fell in love with those things, not her genitals. It's always seemed so ridiculously shallow to me that anyone would care about something so trivial.