Rage Cuts Single-Player When You Buy It Used

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id, go die in a fire. I was even interested in this game. Now I won't do it out of principal.
 
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hahahaha

looks like that's one more game i can cross off my list for not buying above 20-25 dollars ever.

granted..its the sewer level, which is equivalent to the water temple, so they can fuck off if i will play it probably, but still fuck that drm bullshit.
 

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Funny: I always thought gaming was meant to evolve as time went along; but instead it's devolved into a comical self-hostage-taking scenario.

*Sigh*
I don't care about Rage either way. It's just more shit for the shit-pot. Someone gets to stir it later.

Irridium said:
Oh yes, I know that what publishers/developers are doing now is just horrid and wrong. I'm just surprised they haven't tried to hold patches hostage, since that seems the most "logical" thing in this whole stupid situation.
Actually, EA DID hold one patch for Hellgate: London hostage for non-premium members in a last ditch attempt to get people to pay for a service that didn't make any bloody sense.
 

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Gamers should really s tart to boycott developers who do this kind of greedy shit. And I mean boycott on a massive scale. If only we could organize something like that. Both developers and publishers need to understand that they can't treat customers like this. Obnoxious DRM, greedy business policies, complete lack of respect towards gamers. It has to stop. Just because they can do something, doesn't mean they should.
 

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suitepee7 said:
that sounds... pretty shitty. now i will probably miss this game entirely. meh

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ToastiestZombie said:
I thought bad things when i read the title, but now I know that its only small parts of the SP taht are being cut for used palyers. In my opinion this is the right way to do DRM.
no, it is not the right way to do DRM, because it is punishing gamers who have still legitimately bought a copy of the game, but could not afford to do so first hand.
A new copy is 60$, a used one is 55$.

I don't see your point.
 

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Note: A car is around $10,000+ and new video game is about $70/80.

Catchy Slogan said:
cainx10a said:
If you buy it used, you ain't supporting the developers, just like the pirates do. Don't see anything wrong with it, as long as this new little feature doesn't affect the legit buyers.
So, if I buy a used Ford, they can come along and take my brake pads? And if I buy a used book (or go to the library), the author is allowed to come along and rip out the middle chapters? All because I don't have enough money to buy it right off the bat?

How are games any different?
Software and Digitally released products are different. If you paid attention to the EULA, you don't OWN the product, but a license of the product to use. There is nothing that would endanger a human being (like removing the braking system from a used car sale) when a Publisher/Developer are denying second hand users who seem fine with giving their money to Gamestop (who wouldn't sell me a copy of MGS:pW new, because they had a few used copies lying around, and try to convince me for 15 minutes to get it! They even fucking sold the used copy from a MSG PSP core unit box, for the same fucking price as a new one, without a box ... at least the little card cover is a keeper of sort ... my first and final used game purchase) rather than the actual developers and people who you know, actually made the game.

Books are a whole different stories since going digital, thanks to piracy, can be more of a pain. And yes, without purchasing the book, the samples tend to have pages missing. :)


ph0b0s123 said:
cainx10a said:
If you buy it used, you ain't supporting the developers, just like the pirates do. Don't see anything wrong with it, as long as this new little feature doesn't affect the legit buyers.
I am so amazed by the brilliant propaganda campaign the game industry have run. No where else do people equate buying a used product to being the same as stealing it. If that was the case a lot of my possessions have been stolen, my car, motorbike, TV, a load of my blu-rays, DVD's, music, video card,...... yes I could go on for quite a while.

Love how the games industry have managed to brainwash people that they are different to all other products. So different that people are fine when they remove stuff that they would throw a fit about if done with any other product.
Hmmm, no. I love game developers for offering me a product that give me tens and hundreds of hours of entertainment. The least I could do is pay them for the time of their lives they put in producing a video game.

I hate DRM and specially hate pirates because they can enjoy a game without any string attached, and these ingrates don't even care about that anyway.


A Shadows Age said:
cainx10a said:
If you buy it used, you ain't supporting the developers, just like the pirates do. Don't see anything wrong with it, as long as this new little feature doesn't affect the legit buyers.
This, I have never understood... How the fuck do used games take away from their profits? They are fucking used, that means they were bought new and then played and traded in. That means these games became part of their profits before they became used games! How is this not just greedy assholes wanting to get paid twice for the same game?
Hmm, one used sales is one missed new sales. Video games are CHEAPER than a car. This is NOT a case of greedy publishers wanting moar money, but customers wanting CHEAPER for a product that's still worth its price in FULL and the customers going as far as giving all of that good money to a corporation that could care less about them and more about their money (Gamestop and the likes) rather than developers who actually make the products and sell it at a product that is much lower than what it actually cost to product it. Video games are going to get more expensive, and piracy ain't dying anytime soon.

Anyway, I'm done here, since I moved to a 3rd world country and availability of games here is pretty well ... have yet to test the waters, but piracy seems to be the only want to get it in retail, but thanks the flying spaghetti monster for Play-Asia.com. (Hope they ship here ... and F UPS).
 

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cainx10a said:
If you buy it used, you ain't supporting the developers, just like the pirates do. Don't see anything wrong with it, as long as this new little feature doesn't affect the legit buyers.
This, I have never understood... How the fuck do used games take away from their profits? They are fucking used, that means they were bought new and then played and traded in. That means these games became part of their profits before they became used games! How is this not just greedy assholes wanting to get paid twice for the same game?

Do people selling their own cars take away from the bottom dollar of manufactures? No. So how the fuck do used game retailers? Sounds to me like in this economy, the least you could do would be to let other people actually do something that provides jobs and not fucking harass them because they are making a living off of something you have already profited from, instead of trying to hoard shit you no longer have a right to... I don't pay 60 fucking dollars to "rent" these games, I already bought it from you, FUCK OFF!
 

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Oh really? Guess I'll just add this to my ever growing list of games I won't ever buy.

RAGE can go right next to Diablo 3 on my list.

I seriously will not stand for this dirty tricks publishers and developers keep trying to do. One day they'll figure out that piracy has absolutely ZERO influence on sales, however all this crap, hurts sales consistently.
 

Dalek Caan

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Well screw that, I was going to rent or buy this game a few months after it is released but if his is what I am getting then I am sure I can find better things.
 

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(Whistles) That's a pretty gutsy move there id. I always buy whatever game I want brand new because I'm worried about a used copy being damaged in some way, but to cut out the single player? Hm...not sure how I feel about that. Multiplayer I can understand, but single player...coming from someone who loves single player over multiplayer, this sounds like a dangerous slope, although they haven't fallen down it yet.
 

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So, this game is coming out on STEAM as far as I know. Digital distribution, still a new copy 2 years down the line when it's going for 75% off. GOOD GAME.

Unfortunate for console players though, unless they unlock the content for everyone in a couple of years people who are lagging behind will never get the full game since a new copy would be a very hard find. I remember the good days back with my consoles when I could go to Blockbusters and pick up 5 games for £20 used and enjoy them to the fullest, way to Alienate your players ID.
 

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0.o ok now I'm pissed....look I'm willing to understand the Multiplayer a bit, and the day one DLC as well...but this is not cool, to lock parts of the Base Game is nothing short of being a Jerk, Rage go to HELL
 

viranimus

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Yeah this just went from a definite buy to an Oh fuck no for me.

You know... this would not happen if the precedents of Always on DRM and Project 10 dollar had not been begrudgingly accepted. So Honestly I dont lay the blame on IDs feet, I lay the blame on the customers who keep buying into these things and telling the publisher/developer "Its ok, I dont mind if your screwing me over, so long as its gently and with plenty of lube."

For shame, For shame.
 

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I'm starting to dread coming on the escapist, everytime i do i seem to see more news about pre-owned wars or Always on DRM. I'm definatly starting to see the benefits of piracy when developers keep pulling this sort of stuff.
 

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Wait what, check the source link to fox, where is the gorram study!!!
I'm no fan of 3-d cinema but I cant take this seriously just because it tickels me fancy without proof?!
 

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It's stupid as hell its a used fucking game and normally the cost of used games goes to so they can buy NEW copies. I swear why in the fuck are they punishing the used buyers when they still bought a fucking game.
Actually if you sell your new game the most likely scenario is you will buy a used game with that money. Gamestop gives you "more" money for a new game if you use that money to buy used games, and the clerks are pressured to push used games over new.

And as for used buyers still buying the game so what? The publisher didn't get a dime of that. In my opinion used games are actually worse for the industry than piracy. At least the pirate didn't walk into a store with money in his pocket for the purpose of buying a game. Used sales (gamestop) siphon that money away from the publisher at the point of sale. Gamefly is a little bit better because it is more like a library but still damaging to publishers.