Hey, after what they did to Iceman, there's no such thing as jumping to conclusions with Marvel these days.altnameJag said:
Say hello to the new Iron Woman
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Tony hasn't needed the reactor in a long time in the comics, the visual change was because of the movie making it iconic again, so basically they both have it because movie Iron Man has it.Catnip1024 said:
As for the Iron Man suit(s}, they haven't been conventional for decades. Tony's high end suits are literally nano-machine constructs that live inside his body and form his suit just by thinking about it. At the high end, his suits can launch an inexhaustible supply of missiles that range from normal missiles to WMD level destruction, fly into space, and launch energy blasts that can hurt high level entities. Among other things, he has internal nanomachines that make him super fast and able to think like a machine, as well as giving him regeneration on par with some mutants.
Iron Man has been basically running on Bullshit superscience for awhile now, some writers are worse with this than others, the highest end basically involves Tony treating his suits like Adam West Batman utility belts that he can just pull any weapon or power he wants to from them.
Actually, compared to current Iron Man, the suit that Riri (the new character) made, is actually a lot closer to what you were describing you wanted, it looks bulky and not nearly as agile, and breaks the first time she uses it. Compared to Iron Man's current armors, her suit is more like the movie Iron Man suits on capability level than it is the comics version of Iron Man.
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I haven't seen it really linked yet, so here it is for comparison, Riri's suit versus Tony's current armor.
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Like someone said, kind of looks like Optimus Prime, or a suit of Fallout power armor
The hilarious thing about that Iron Man is perfect the way he is, is that Tony was never like this until post RDJ Iron Man. Tony pre-movie was a rather different character. He could be arrogant yeah, but nothing like post movie. He also wasn't exactly jokey. But otherwise I agree with you. This had Internet overreaction/freakout written all over it. Especially while everyone pretends that this isn't something that Marvel does every years at this point. Oh and that they are too afraid to just go full DC and have a reboot.shrekfan246 said:
You sir, are my spirit animal. I don't think I've ever agreed with anything more in my life. And it is always people that obviously don't read comics that are the loudest about this stuff. And I mean either side of the argument, of for or against. And it is always the against guys that don't get the statement "Marvel does this stuff all the time." If I got a buck every time a mantle was passed around for a few arcs I'd be Tony Stark rich.Fappy said:
Pretty sure it's the Batman Effect. Regular Dude is able to go toe to toe with the Big Boys, due to his intellect and creativity...and a massive, bottomless bank account to fund all the shit he needs to actually compensate for being a regular human. The power fantasy of most nerds, that their intellect can literally make them a superhero. It's the Everyman scenario, sort of the same with why people like Ghostbusters so much. The idea that anybody off the street, with a little training and some equipment, can literally defeat the undead, and tell an ancient god to go fuck off, 'cause this is how we do things downtown!Fappy said:
That's why, I think, he's popular. That and the movies galvanizing him back into the public mindset revitalizing the series.
Fair enough. Like I said, I haven't really paid much attention to the whole Iron Man franchise, that makes a little more sense now I don't take it solely in the context of the first movie (I got superhero fatigue shortly after that came out).EternallyBored said:
I just pulled it from his quote and removed his bit because I was responding to you (or what I thought was your post based on his quoting). Apparently the original source is incorrect, so disregard it, though my statement I feel is still accurate, just wrong source.Fappy said:
Well if that's the level of sophistication that Tony's suits currently impart to him, then there is even less of an issue with Riri taking over. If he's actually giving her the keys to the castle, so to speak, she's now going to have access to nano-tech to make her move faster/stronger, think faster, and basically be a walking powerhouse....just like Tony.EternallyBored said:
So...yeah, I have even less of an issue (didn't have an issue anyway, but you get the point), of someone taking Tony's place in the mantle of Iron Man. Given how pretty much all of his capability as a superhero comes from the suits themselves, having someone else in the suit doesn't really reduce the capability of the superhero, and she's got plenty of room to grow...just like Tony did at the start of his career.
Considering how bulky that suit looks (thanks Metalix!), a scrunchy or some ergonomic consideration based on how the helmet gets put on would do the trick.JustAnotherAardvark said:
Still, I'll go with Unstable Molocules, because having a 15 year old MIT student rip those off would piss Reed Richards off to no end. It'd be hilarious.
I mean, Tony Stark built the first suit in a cave, so it's not exactly the most improbable thing. 'Joined [insert prestigious institute] at [insert improbably young age]' seems pretty par-for-the-course in terms of superhero backstories, especially for a tech-centric one. I really wish it wasn't though.inu-kun said:
OT: I'm not really into comics or superheroes so I'm not really fussed either way. I mean, yeah, she really should have just been her own character (why do we need another shlub in power armour? Can people just not think of any other good tech-based abilities?) but it's not exactly uncommon or new to have an established identity or hero be taken up by a different character.
If Rey is considered a halfway competent female character, I'd hate to see what constitutes an incompetent one. The bar is evidently being set lower for female characters as well if that's the case as well, which is quite sexist in its own way given that pretty much every medium has shown itself to be home to great female characters who don't need to be graded using a different metric to male ones.McMarbles said:
It honestly makes me wonder how they're going to respond if he actually does win, since they have a history of keeping the real world president the same as that in the comics at the time (which is really weird in its results since it means there have been 6 elected presidents in the past 15 years of the setting)Areloch said:
Considering all Rey has is the standard suite of Star Wars Protagonist powers, what would you consider a competent female character to look like?Zontar said:
I'd say Leia to be obvious but even Padme managed to at least be a consistent character who didn't effectively become a new character in virtually every scene while also having flaws that actually weighed against her positive aspects.altnameJag said:
Plus the whole not going from the beginning to end of the entire Hero's Journey in 5 minutes didn't help. At this point Rey has nowhere left to go, she already defeated her nemisis and he's only still alive because
The entire fight between Kylo and Rey felt like it was written with their roles reversed and the fight's turn being when Kylo stopped holding punches but somewhere in pre-production someone accidentally switched their names and forgot to put them back. I honestly wonder how they're going to handle the villains in Episode 8 because Kylo may be still alive but he sure isn't going to be seen as a threat by the audience.
So, is Tony Stark a black woman now, or am I missing something?inu-kun said:
OT: I came here expecting Rescue. Gotta say, I'm a little disappointed. Oh well. All that's left to do is wait to see how she's written. Then I'll decide whether the evil feminist cabal has struck again. As for her hair, screw the naysayers! Her hair is fabulous!
The circumstances under which Marvel's writers have revealed their new characters, or status quo changes, have been a little irritating lately. Iceman is gay now? Cool. We find out because Jean invades his privacy and tells him he's "Full gay". Ugh. That could have been handled so much better. Thor's debut also made it obvious that Odinson will become worthy once again, which makes me wonder how long the new Thor will last. We've got two Spider-Men running about, and I don't even know what Morales' origin story is anymore. I certainly hope Miles remembers living in a different world. And finally, Legacy Characters are pretty worthless if the originals are still doing their thing.
I don't want to sound like a broken record, but I'd like to see a proper ending for characters like Odinson, Stark, Parker, and Cap. Y'know? Odinson becomes King of Asgard, Stark and Paker get married (To each other or to Potts and Watson, whatever) and retire, and Cap becomes director of S.H.I.E.L.D., forcing the other characters to step up and take their place, like Thor already has. That way we get a proper conclusion to their stories and the Legacy Characters don't feel worthless.
Also, the Odinson may be returning very soon if the new The Unworthy Thor book is any indication.