Skyward Sword

[ACman]

I will now prove you wrong, Yahtzee.

I loved Skyward Sword and none of your complaints about the game proved detrimental to the fun and enjoyment I derived from the game.

The fact that you have different opinions does not prove either of them wrong. They are both equally valid point of view. You are allowed to have opinions that differ from that of a snarky misanthropic British Australian who makes brief cartoons about games on the internet.

However Yahtzee is "more right".

He actually understands that artistic opinion is based on personal preference and doesn't demand that you nod your heads in total fucking agreement when he proffers his.

You on the otherhand demand that his opinion should concur with yours.

How dull a place would the world be if everybody agreed with each other on matters as trivial as this.

 

[Forgetitnow344]

Here's an eye-opener... Without googling it, what was the name of the final boss?

Go ahead and lie and say you remember after having googled it, but you know and I both know you don't remember a damn thing.

A Zelda game where you can't remember who the last boss was... Awful.

 

[Signa]

The hell? People are defending Skyward Sword? It wasn't until Yahtzee reviewed it that I realized I wasn't going crazy. I fucking LOVE Zelda, but this one was shit and I haven't been able to force my self back into it for weeks.

 

[Aerograt]

Prove me wrong, fans.

No, Yahtzee...

I won't.

*Walks off into the sunset*

 

[C117]

You covered everything to cover. I am a fan of Zelda but I do have to agree with you on this one.

Oh so true. Even though I personally liked Skyward Sword (at least enough to plow right through it), all the criticism Yahtzee brought up is perfectly valid, and just goes to show how the whole game feels quite padded, while at the same time being virtually linear. And this comes from a person (me) who could be quite aptly labeled a Zelda-fanboy.

Good work, Mr. Croshaw. Carry on, and happy new year.

 

[I-Protest-I]

God the responses in this thread have made me so happy, I haven't stopped laughing for 2 hours at how Yahtzee's trolled the hell out of you people.

 

[Scarim Coral]

Good job given the fanboys the finger and you are justify with your opinion in that it wasn't a good game which I agree on with the flaws (yeah it's still fun but it's not the best nor is it perfect out of the series).

 

[Adzma]

Anyone who defends Skyward Sword is either mad, blind or both. Every complaint Yahtzee raised is exactly what I thought while playing it. It's horribly padded and panders to the lowest common denominator.

 

[Scrustle]

The word biased seems to mean nothing on the internet. People spout it out without seeming to understand what it means at all. People will call you biased for simply having an opinion now. It's fucking ridiculous. It's like they're saying "this statement is invalid because the person making it has an opinion". And as Yahtzee points out, it seems you don't even need a consistent opinion to be called biased any more either.

When will these morons realise that biased means you are unfairly prejudice towards one point of view, not that you simply have one. Yahtzee is blatantly not biased. In fact, the ones who are biased are the fanboys accusing Yahtzee of the very same thing! That's pretty much what defines a fanboy.

 

[AyreonMaiden]

Loved Skyward Sword, love Zelda in general, quite agree with Yahtzee in many regards about this game.

It's just funny, how it takes a new Zelda game to put into perspective that the previous one wasn't shitty at all. Zelda fanboys truly are some of the ficklest/worst ever .

 

[JediMB]

I think it's in large part the continuity nods that has caused me to hold Skyward Sword as dearly as I do. I mean, yes, I also dig the gameplay, despite its flaws, and had tons of fun with the boss battles and puzzles... but that can be said for most of the games in the series.

I think it was when I entered the "Temple of Time" area in the desert that it started to dawn on me exactly what SS was to the Zelda series in general, and to Ocarina of Time in particular.

 

[orangeban]

Huh, I enjoyed it, he didn't, we have different tastes and expectations from games. That's what it comes down to, that's what it *always* comes down to. Nothing else to really say.

 

[Sigmund Av Volsung]

You know what, I liked Skyward Sword, but I would never go to such lengths to defend it,
I mean, I have a friend is a Wii fanboy, and yet, he never gets angry at Yahtzee for his constant Wii bashing in his reviews.

I am also an assassin's crred fan, and even though Yahtzee says that the games are groaning W/ unnecessary s***, I still respect his opinion, and I never feel the need to rage at him.

*I did only play about 90 minutes of Skyward Sword BTW(it was at my friend's house)

 

[OldNewNewOld]

I was one of those who criticized his video, but I accept this as a critic.

I'm a Zelda fanboy, but I'm not blind. I know that Zelda isn't perfect, nor that it will ever be. Nothing will ever be perfect. But I will not accept critics that say "It's shit' without any really explanation.

Fi was indeed annoying. For someone more, for someone less. I just took that as her character.
The Water Dragon was indeed a pain in the ass with proving your self. I already saved her ass, why the hell do I have to prove my self again? But then again, the other dragons wheren't, so I took that as her character too.

But complaining for the most commune fetch quests in Skyward Sword, jet saying that Skyrim is one of the best things ever happened is a bit... well... hypocritical. Skyrims is all about fetch quests. Go here, kill that, come back. Go there, take that, bring it back. The only time that I actually felt that my quests did something in Skyrim was in the Dark Brotherhood and in the Thief guild (although even those quest didn't have any impact).

I hate those kind of quests as much as any other games does, but there is nothing that I or anyone else can do to change it. So I will try to enjoy it as much as possible. The only thing that ruined some of those quests is that they where so obvious what to do.

I would also disagree with you about Link having a personality only in the Wind Waker. Skyward Sword did really well with his facial expressions. You could see many times that he was actually scared, jet his still found courage. That he was in love, jet he didn't have courage enough to say it. That he was happy, or sad...
Did you even look at Links face when he fought Ghirahim the last time? Did you just ignore the hate in Links eyes? IMHO, this is the first time that you could see hate in Link.

I didn't have any problems with the motion controls, but I know that there is a slight delay which is because of the controls. I don't think you can say it's a bad part of Zelda, because it's not. It's a bad part of the whole console. The game used the controls it had to it's maximum. That would be like saying that it's the fault of Battlefield 3 how bad it looks on the PS 3. No, it's the fault of the console, not the game. The developer gave their best to make it look as good as possible.

But as I said, I accept this article as a real critic. Not the video which was listing things that you though where bad, but didn't have any real explanation.

Loved Skyward Sword, love Zelda in general, quite agree with Yahtzee in many regards about this game.

It's just funny, how it takes a new Zelda game to put into perspective that the previous one wasn't shitty at all. Zelda fanboys truly are some of the ficklest/worst ever .

Well, Wind Waker was hated for a really long time, but now it's one of the most loved. I loved it from the day it came out. For me, it's the second bast Zelda game. After Majora's Mask. ^^

 

[Robert632]

i went into this preparing to be annoyed (i don't know why i click on things that i think would gain my ire) but i ended up agreeing for the most part. except on twilight princess ( tied with skyward sword for weakest zelda titles i've played)

one of my main complaints is that about 80% of this game is just busywork. wanna go to the water dungeon? go backtrack to the first dungeon and get some water at the end. there was simply way too much retracing. also the lack of ganon. i was really hoping he was behind it all, because at this point i laugh whenevver that happens. also fi was horrendously bland and verbose. also how many times must she say my hearts are low? i mean they're freaking beeping, why do i need more annoying reminders?

interestingly, my favorite zelda games (up to this point) have been the ones to break away from the formula like wind waker and majora's mask. speaking of which, is Majora's Mask coming to the 3ds? i'd be curious to see a zp of it, as it is one of the stranger titles in the series. as in, it has way more atmosphere* than the other ones. or not, because there are hells of the other titles out there to review, and there's been like, what, 4 zelda reviews already?

anyhoo, this article was pretty much my thoughts on the game. also i appreciate you yahtzee. well, as long as you review games i don't feel were all that great.



* italicized for overused buzz word.

Your argument for disliking the lack of Ganon is insane. That no one called you on this is surprising, but I feel the need to.

If you want to know the reasoning, it's because in no way could they have done this in a way that would make you happy. Include him, You laugh and say how stupid it was, not include him, you complain because you don't get to laugh at something that is clearly an amusing story fault to you.

 

[Malty Milk Whistle]

As a biased gamer who didn't feel much praise for any Zelda game (except for A Link to the Past and the Minish Cap), damn this post felt good. xD

If there's a game that should be exposed more, it must be Golden Sun.

*Searches through armory for flame shield*

i found the original in a car boot sale....i almost cried with happiness, since my original was ran over by a lawnmower.

 

[JohnDoey]

Huh, the Zelda and Yahtzee fanboys are out in full force, some saying Yahtzee's infallible and other that Zeldas perfect.
Personally I thought the game was great it had it's issues but still a lot of fun, didn't have any problems with the controls I don't why he zeroed in on the busywork is this game it's pretty much a rpg staple and a bit worse in Skyrim I feel.

 

[PureChaos]

i agree with his points but the difference is they didn't bother me enough to ruin the game

 

[cthulhumythos]

i went into this preparing to be annoyed (i don't know why i click on things that i think would gain my ire) but i ended up agreeing for the most part. except on twilight princess ( tied with skyward sword for weakest zelda titles i've played)

one of my main complaints is that about 80% of this game is just busywork. wanna go to the water dungeon? go backtrack to the first dungeon and get some water at the end. there was simply way too much retracing. also the lack of ganon. i was really hoping he was behind it all, because at this point i laugh whenevver that happens. also fi was horrendously bland and verbose. also how many times must she say my hearts are low? i mean they're freaking beeping, why do i need more annoying reminders?

interestingly, my favorite zelda games (up to this point) have been the ones to break away from the formula like wind waker and majora's mask. speaking of which, is Majora's Mask coming to the 3ds? i'd be curious to see a zp of it, as it is one of the stranger titles in the series. as in, it has way more atmosphere* than the other ones. or not, because there are hells of the other titles out there to review, and there's been like, what, 4 zelda reviews already?

anyhoo, this article was pretty much my thoughts on the game. also i appreciate you yahtzee. well, as long as you review games i don't feel were all that great.



* italicized for overused buzz word.

Your argument for disliking the lack of Ganon is insane. That no one called you on this is surprising, but I feel the need to.

If you want to know the reasoning, it's because in no way could they have done this in a way that would make you happy. Include him, You laugh and say how stupid it was, not include him, you complain because you don't get to laugh at something that is clearly an amusing story fault to you.

that point honestly wasn't as serious as the others. i'm not saying that it made the game worse than what it could've been if it had ganon. i just love the 'hijacked by ganon' thing. i wasn't being serious with this as a legitimate point, but sadly the internet doesn't have a way of conveying silliness.

 

[Robert632]

i went into this preparing to be annoyed (i don't know why i click on things that i think would gain my ire) but i ended up agreeing for the most part. except on twilight princess ( tied with skyward sword for weakest zelda titles i've played)

one of my main complaints is that about 80% of this game is just busywork. wanna go to the water dungeon? go backtrack to the first dungeon and get some water at the end. there was simply way too much retracing. also the lack of ganon. i was really hoping he was behind it all, because at this point i laugh whenevver that happens. also fi was horrendously bland and verbose. also how many times must she say my hearts are low? i mean they're freaking beeping, why do i need more annoying reminders?

interestingly, my favorite zelda games (up to this point) have been the ones to break away from the formula like wind waker and majora's mask. speaking of which, is Majora's Mask coming to the 3ds? i'd be curious to see a zp of it, as it is one of the stranger titles in the series. as in, it has way more atmosphere* than the other ones. or not, because there are hells of the other titles out there to review, and there's been like, what, 4 zelda reviews already?

anyhoo, this article was pretty much my thoughts on the game. also i appreciate you yahtzee. well, as long as you review games i don't feel were all that great.



* italicized for overused buzz word.

Your argument for disliking the lack of Ganon is insane. That no one called you on this is surprising, but I feel the need to.

If you want to know the reasoning, it's because in no way could they have done this in a way that would make you happy. Include him, You laugh and say how stupid it was, not include him, you complain because you don't get to laugh at something that is clearly an amusing story fault to you.

that point honestly wasn't as serious as the others. i'm not saying that it made the game worse than what it could've been if it had ganon. i just love the 'hijacked by ganon' thing. i wasn't being serious with this as a legitimate point, but sadly the internet doesn't have a way of conveying silliness.

Ah sorry. My bad. Though it is a bit confusing having it in the middle of legitimate complaints.