I'm pretty sure it was all just a marketing ploy to boost the Captain Marvel box office.Casual Shinji said:
So! Avengers: Endgame
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What was the story excuse again for her not being there? You'd think a mission to bring back the 50% of all life in the UNIVERSE that was decimated would require her attention, but aparently not.Marik2 said:
Yeah, I know, but they could've atleast made an effort. You look at Doctor Strange and he was set up to be this new powerful character (not that I saw his movie either), and then in Infinity War he actually does cool shit and feels like an important part of the movie.Johnny Novgorod said:
The fact that half of all life is vaporized could've been used to show Carol Danvers experience the fall-out of that throughout certain parts of the universe. Again, another part where Endgame fumbles; we only get to see what the Snap did to Earth, and not even that much. All we see is a dude talking about a date he had, Cap mentioning that a river is cleaner now, and Ant-Man walking around looking at some missing posters and seeing a depressed kid on a bicycle. In Guardians 2 when Ego sets his plan in motion you get to see how it's fucking up a whole bunch of planets, making you feel the impact of the villain's actions. But in Endgame (and also partially Infinity War) there's no focus on that at all.
Also, just out of the blue here, but didn't anybody else find it a little weird that Hawkeye was having a casual family picnic just before the Snap happened? I mean, I know the dude is retired, but he really wasn't aware of anything that was happening on Earth prior, what with the alien attack on New York and Tony Stark going missing? You'd think he would've caught wind of that shit.
Usually, the first thing the sexist cite about Captain Marvel is that she looks butch mainly from this hair cutSaelune said:I cried. When everyone shows up for the final fight, I actually started crying. It was the Airport scene x3000 (actually more, but I am making a reference to the film).
There is a better version of the MCU that could have existed, but I never imagined this could ever have existed as a child.
Every MCU hater can go suck an egg.
Also I love the middle finger to all the sexists. I honestly just don't care, sexists can go suck an egg too.
I did not care for Captain Marvel's Tasha Yar cosplay though.
That's because it looked like an obvious wig.Saelune said:I did not care for Captain Marvel's Tasha Yar cosplay though.
But atleast we got one of the few decent jokes this movie has out of it from Rocket.
He wasn't retired he was under house arrest because he resisted during Civil War. This movie isn't really about Captain Marvel or the other alien planets though, it's about the core Avengers. Infinity War was basically a movie about Thanos, End Game was about closure to Cap, Thor and Tony's story arcs (and Natasha, though she didn't really have an arc). While I'm sure Thor will turn up in Guardians I doubt he'll be playing a central role. He'll be like another Drax and just be there to provide comic relief, muscle and possibly exposition.Casual Shinji said:
Also you don't need to be sexist to think Captain Marvel's haircut looks weird.
Didn't that version of Captain Marvel get the same haircut in comics anyway? I never saw it as a big deal other than, "hey, hardcore comics fans, remember this?".
Here Comes Tomorrow said:
Pray tell, why do sexists hate her haircut then?
Yes.CoCage said:
Fans like it.
https://www.bustle.com/p/captain-marvels-endgame-haircut-make-a-major-statement-fans-are-on-board-17298240
It would've benefitted the movie to actually show some of this. In fact, it might've been better had the end of Infinity War launched Phase 4 and given us a couple of movies showing what the Snap caused throughout the universe. As it is now it feels less like half of all life in the universe and more like half of the heroes and maybe a couple of other people.undeadsuitor said:
That's my point. At the start of Endgame Carol Danvers is barely holding back the tears when she hears what happened, you'd think she'd want to be included in this 1-in-14.000.000 shot to reverse all that.
The amount of screen time she ends up getting could've worked if she was a mystery character whose allegiance is unknown, but as it is it just really feels like there was no point to this character.
Infinity War managed to make Thanos the main character while still allowing the other characters to breath and take their spot in the movie. Endgame is way too cluncky to make anyone shine. The movie is about Cap, Tony, and Thor, but none of them feel as engaging as they were in previous movies. And heck, Thor was just a punchline through most of the movie.Here Comes Tomorrow said:
And regarding Captain Marvel, if the movie wasn't about her why did Marvel hype her up to be this massive player? Endgame itself frames her as this important character from the very start, only to just forget her until I guess she's important again at the very end. The little amount of time Dr. Strange was in Thor 3 felt more meaningful than Captain Marvel did in Endgame.
I just liked her longer hair. Then suddenly time jump-hair cut. Plus I was always used to her older appearance. Though the costume updates was mostly one of the better changes with the MCU. Cap vs Cap was clear evidence of that, I actually burst out laughing seeing Avengers 1 Cap's outfit. I WAS glad that he shaved though. I like him better without the beard.trunkage said:Usually, the first thing the sexist cite about Captain Marvel is that she looks butch mainly from this hair cutSaelune said:I cried. When everyone shows up for the final fight, I actually started crying. It was the Airport scene x3000 (actually more, but I am making a reference to the film).
There is a better version of the MCU that could have existed, but I never imagined this could ever have existed as a child.
Every MCU hater can go suck an egg.
Also I love the middle finger to all the sexists. I honestly just don't care, sexists can go suck an egg too.
I did not care for Captain Marvel's Tasha Yar cosplay though.
I also didn't like Hawkeye's haircut, but I mean, it just made his 'Im edgelord Ronin now' sillier.
It makes perfect sense really.undeadsuitor said:
She is out in the universe helping planets dealing with the fact that 50% of all life disappeared and suddenly all life is back, what would be the first thing she'd do?
Try and regroup with the group of people that she has been working with for the past 5 years, she could try to call them, but Avengers HQ is in shambles so her phone probably doesn't work. Only option is to rush back to earth and... oh my, what's this, a giant space ship attacking the general area where Avengers HQ used to be?
And yet, those images are case examples of how bland, hollow, and transparent the "feminist" take on Captain Marvel is, and how disingenuous the "defense" of it really is. Criticisms of the character prior to this are founded on a misapplication of gaze theory in comics, which in turn completely disregard comics' quasi-classical aesthetic tradition. By that I mean the characters are essentially drawn nude, but that nudity is censored by inking costumes onto them.Majestic Manatee said:
Yet here we have post-reboot Captain Marvel, in the same poses from the same angles, and in yet another skin-tight outfit that swaps flesh tones for blues and reds. Do I really need to link Girls in Yoga Pants to demonstrate exactly how facile the "aesthetic" reboot is? Whinge all you like about the 2005-2012 leotard, boots, gloves, and sash for showing skin, but that costume at least looked like she was wearing fabric because time had been taken to draw and ink relief, stitching, bunching, and texture.
The funny thing is, the short haircut is the one thing I like about MCU Captain Marvel.
Captain Marvel was always a feminist hero. There was just a lower bar in the 70's. Ms. in Ms.Marvel at the time was a feminist action, as it only denoted gender, and was independent of marital status, unlike Miss and Mrs. That was a big deal then. Plus she was a physically strong and independent woman.Eacaraxe said:
Progress happens in steps.
That not my problem with your comment.Here Comes Tomorrow said:
I said sexists use this comment. (Also, note that I put in that they link this to her being too butch or mascluine. Which no one on this thread has linked) I didn't say you are sexist if you use this comment.
The sexist I was talking about were all the guys with YouTube video explaining how bad Captain Marvel is. I remember looking up these guys after the Larsen comment. They were repeating themselves and this was one common comment. So yes, it's specific sexist and I was strawmaning all sexists.
But no, the comment about her hair wasn't about calling you sexist. It had nothing to do with you.
