So! Avengers: Endgame

[Marik2]

I honestly don't understand why people dont like the ultron movie.

 

[Marik2]

Infinity War > Age of Ultron > Endgame > Avengers

Infinity War>Avengers>Age of Ultron>Endgame

Or, if you want it in a wider context:

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17) The Avengers: Endgame

16) Iron Man 2

15) Thor

14) Captain America: The First Avenger

13) The Avengers: Age of Ultron

12) The Avengers

11) The Avengers: Infinity War

10) Captain Marvel

9) Captain America: Civil War

8) Guardians of the Galaxy

7) Thor: Ragnarok

6) Guardians of the Galaxy: Volume 2

5) Iron Man

4) Iron Man 3

3) Doctor Strange

2) Ant-Man and the Wasp

1) Spider-Man: Homecoming

why in the world do you think that spiderman was the best out of the mcu? it was mediocre at best.

 

[Silentpony_v1legacy]

I honestly don't understand why people dont like the ultron movie.

That always bothered me. Its a great movie! Same with Iron Man 2 and Captain America 1! Why all the hate?!

 

[Marik2]

I honestly don't understand why people dont like the ultron movie.

That always bothered me. Its a great movie! Same with Iron Man 2 and Captain America 1! Why all the hate?!

iron man 2 sucked. the only trilogy to mostly worked and be consistently decent was the captain murica trilogy.

 

[Silentpony_v1legacy]

I honestly don't understand why people dont like the ultron movie.

That always bothered me. Its a great movie! Same with Iron Man 2 and Captain America 1! Why all the hate?!

iron man 2 sucked. the only trilogy to mostly worked and be consistently decent was the captain murica trilogy.

Iron man 2 was leagues better than 3 was, where they just lied in the marketing and pulled the rug out from under an actual MC villain in favor of...some dude...

 

[Marik2]

I honestly don't understand why people dont like the ultron movie.

That always bothered me. Its a great movie! Same with Iron Man 2 and Captain America 1! Why all the hate?!

iron man 2 sucked. the only trilogy to mostly worked and be consistently decent was the captain murica trilogy.

Iron man 2 was leagues better than 3 was, where they just lied in the marketing and pulled the rug out from under an actual MC villain in favor of...some dude...

iron man 2 and 3 both sucked equally. the problem that marvel has is that it doesnt have that many good antagonists. the only good antagonists come from spider man, xmen, and fantastic four with doctor doom.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zPEtyAsM94

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaNWFHLy2NI

 

[Marik2]

noobmaster69

 

[Hawki]

why in the world do you think that spiderman was the best out of the mcu? it was mediocre at best.

Because it...wasn't mediocre?

Okay, I guess it was because it's paced well, it's got good protagonists, a good antagonist, good action, and is really funny. That's pretty much what I want from a Spider-Man movie, and it delivered.

Is it the best Spider-Man movie? No. It's #4 for me. But it is the best MCU film that I've seen.

I honestly don't understand why people dont like the ultron movie.

It's got a similar problem to the other Avengers movies for me in that it's bloated. But even by those standards it's still bloated, because of the time we waste at the farm, the forced Black Widow/Hulk romance, the Thor vision quest nonsense, and Ultron himself. He's...okay, but the film's trying to have it both ways with him, alternating between megalomaniacal ham, and trying to make him come off as deep (world sucks, human sucks, I have to destroy it to stop the suckitude). Oh, and considering that everything in the film is essentially Tony's fault, and there isn't a proper reckoning with that until much later down the line...leaves a bit of a bitter taste.

I came to the realization around Ant-Man and the Wasp that I think the MCU's at its best when it's focusing on smaller, character-based stories with a healthy dose of humour, because the larger ones just don't cut it for me.

 

[immortalfrieza]

One thing I have to mention is there was one opportunity I think the writers missed.

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Given the fight scene between Thanos and Captain Marvel and the fact that Marvel's power comes from the Infinity Stones, instead of Thanos just grabbing the Power Stone and blasting her he could have said something to that effect and used the gauntlet to drain her powers away.

This would have provided the perfect justification to depower CM a lot so she's back down to pre-"breaks every story possible by existing" levels for future movies, as she's hilariously far far too powerful right now. Chances are they'll do the same thing in her next movie anyway, but that would have let her get through that step early.

 

[Casual Shinji]

Speaking of her, in the final big battle when all the ladies gather together to charge it was kinda hilarious to see Mantis charge along with them. Like, she's a charming character and all, but what the hell is she gonna do in the thick of it?

I rarely use the word 'cringe', but that shot was cringe. To me there's another problem: Pepper. She's not a heroine at all, she flies in a magical exosuit superweapon that is controlled by an AI. Yes, she was badass with the extremis.exe installed but that was years ago already. The same with Spider-Man though maybe only 50% because his suit doesn't fly. And the new trailer? Freakin' Zeke Gyggendahl and Zendaya's ""MJ"" can go screw it.

It was a bit on the nose, but I had no real problem with it other than Mantis sticking out like a sore thumb. And Pepper was mainly there for the emotional beats. And yeah, she's not a "hero", but at this point the Iron Man suits don't even need Tony to opperate effectively. He could literally just be hiding in a bunker somewhere pressing a few buttons and it'd be just as effective. Rhodey also has just as much reason to be in an Iron Man suit as Pepper, i.e. none. The Iron Man suits have never been established as needing skill to opperate so it really doesn't matter who you stick in there anymore.

 

[bluegate]

noobmaster69

Hehe, douchebags living in basements playing fortnite, got a chuckle out of me.

But, any scene that involves Korg is a fun scene in my book.

 

[Kyrian007]

Oh dear the audience. There was a woman sitting behind me actually saying "oh my god" (in English, and this is a Finnish theatre we're sitting in) every time something of note happened.

God I had a fat chick sitting in front of me that kept swaying frantically and rocking the seats around her every time Iron Man called someone a funny name.

Ugh....and I never found Marvel's sense of humor that funny and always found it cringe and distracting.

"Cringe" is a verb and shouldn't be used in that way unless you're a ditzy 12 year old girl talking to her BFFs on her phone, shame on you.

Instead, try the more healthy alternative; cringeworthy.

Are you saying that cringe has become a dirty word comparable to the N word?

No, I'm saying that you're using a verb as if it were an adjective and that it's wrong to do so.

Correct usage;
I cringed when he told me that he watched My Little Pony.
The news of the new Netflix show made me cringe.

Incorrect usage;
I don't like that show, it's totally cringe!

Damned youngsters nowadays and their internet speak, can't even use verbs correctly! We're all heading towards Idiocracy at this point, rabble rabble rabble.

Probably better to just accept it. Unfortunately "cringe" as a verb is just as likely to become the "correct millennial English." I've been fighting the non-word "normalcy" ever since 2001 when some idiots (and most popularized by a former president) forgot the correct word to use was NORMALITY. "Cringe" seems to be a truncation of a verbal approximation that sounds more like "cring-ey." As opposed to the correct "cringeworthy" or the hyphenated "cringe-inducing." Then again every time I despair that the kids these days aren't apparently learning proper English... I do have to remind myself that we aren't still speaking West Saxon or even Middle English anymore either. "Cringe," "Cringy," and "Cringey" all have entries on urban dictionary... probably only a matter of time now.

 

[Marik2]

So I got bored last night and just decided to go see this.

It was boring. And it wasn't just me. This was a Saturday night, opening weekend showing, theater was packed, every screen is showing this movie and the crowd seemed just as bored as I was. No one clapped, no one cheered, no one laughed or cried or did anything. It was dead silent the entire movie, as if everyone was asleep, and even in the end when the credits came up, nothing. Dead silence then people started to leave. Like even during the Big Moments when does and goes , nothing. And I know there's meant to be a reaction because the movie awkwardly stops after jokes for laugh beats, or big moments for applause. And it got nothing. So here we have Tony Stark telling a joke, pause for laugh, no laugh, the characters are awkwardly standing around for a few heartbeats to let the non-existent laughter die down.

Like kinda' just a dud. Like this is a 100% accurate representation of my movie going experience with this crowd

That happened in my place as well. People were on their phones and yawning.

 

[Here Comes Tomorrow]

noobmaster69

Hehe, douchebags living in basements playing fortnite, got a chuckle out of me.

But, any scene that involves Korg is a fun scene in my book.

I'm still bitter than one of Hulks best storylines was reduced to a B-plot and comic relief.

 

[Trunkage]

I honestly don't understand why people dont like the ultron movie.

That always bothered me. Its a great movie! Same with Iron Man 2 and Captain America 1! Why all the hate?!

I'm fine with Iron Man 2. Hammer probably being the best. To me, Ultron (the villain) was an attempt at a better villain but didn't quite stick the landing. Also, the problem is solved by doing the same mistake that caused the problem. Don't understand the hate for Thor 2, which was way better than 1.

But Captain America 1 was a jingoistic, self-righteous, pompous propaganda machine that is like watching Trump speak. Feels over reals. The worst part is that my daughter is getting old enough to start seeing these movies, and I'm going to have to watch that turd burger again soon. I'm not looking forward to it.

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This comment is under the proviso that we don't know what's happening in the future with these movies.... I would gather that Captain Marvel has been winning battle all over the place. This was her being taken down a peg. So, in effect, she was like a stinger we normally see at the end of the movie, but actually in the middle of the battle. I do hope that this gives her reason to reconsider her negligence of Earth (hence the proviso)

But then, why were most of the characters in the movie? Spiderman and Black Panther pushed the football down the road, and they were out. Strange teleported everyone and held back some water. So he was a glorified taxi service. Also, why not teleport the water away. I cant remember most of the Guardians doing anything substantial. Falcon flew a bit and Bucky shot his gun.

If you're asking why Captain Marvel was in the movie, it makes as much sense as any character.

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Many of those appearances like Black Panther?s, Spider-Man?s and Dr. Strange?s were largely ostentation, ?looky-here, all heroes on screen,? validation that they were indeed back from the dust; there was no impression given that any one of them was there to make the pivotal difference, but were there for the campy ?winning together? denouement. Captain Marvel, on the other hand, was there from the beginning of the film asserting herself as the alpha who pretty much tells us that our Earthly problems are just that, and but a drop in the cosmic bucket. Then she disappears only to come back during the epic final battle where she brings the melee to a grinding halt as everyone stares slack-jawed as she single-handedly brings downs Thanos? ship. She WAS fed to us as the pivotal linchpin for the allies? success in the face of insurmountable odds? then she got slapped around and tossed into a boulder.

I?m not saying she shouldn?t have been in the movie, I?m just saying they oversold her throughout for her to do as little as she did. I think instead of engaging Thanos, maybe she should have taken on more of the thousands of fodder he brought with him, thin their numbers in grand spectacle, bring down all of those huge flying Gears of War-looking thingies, etc.; we should have seen more of her unbridled power and less of her dissonantly struggling in hand-to-hand combat with the antagonist, use the excuse that she didn?t want to hurt the protagonists near him or something, I dunno, anything better than how they ultimately used her in that scene.

Just my take but I thought that everyone was getting a punch in on Thanos. I thought they were trying to show that brawn wont win this one, even together.

Also, I know its only a few extra scenes but adding more minion killing wouldnt have done it for me. She already killed spaceship minion, that was enough. The last battle was great but it was just a bunch of people punting a football towards a van. There is only so much that of that that I could stand.

And why do you think she was sent to solve all MCU problems? What in Captain Marvel (movie) told us that? She solved an issue (same as any other MCU movie) but now somehow that means she's supposed to be the only problem solver in the MCU? She literally tells the Leftovers that they're good enough and she has other issues to solve.

But, I would agree, more blast over punching, considering that's how the last movie ended. She blasted instead of punched... becuase anything else doesnt make sense. It's like a bad guy, with a gun, moves forward towards a protaganist so they can go hand to hand. Shouldnt that be in some henchman manual somewhere? Gun are best used at a distance.

 

[Marik2]

this movie was such a let down after infinity war

 

[Casual Shinji]

this movie was such a let down after infinity war

Also after Marvel making such a big fucking deal about Captain Marvel in anticipation of the Avengers finale.

 

[Xprimentyl]

Spoiler

This comment is under the proviso that we don't know what's happening in the future with these movies.... I would gather that Captain Marvel has been winning battle all over the place. This was her being taken down a peg. So, in effect, she was like a stinger we normally see at the end of the movie, but actually in the middle of the battle. I do hope that this gives her reason to reconsider her negligence of Earth (hence the proviso)

But then, why were most of the characters in the movie? Spiderman and Black Panther pushed the football down the road, and they were out. Strange teleported everyone and held back some water. So he was a glorified taxi service. Also, why not teleport the water away. I cant remember most of the Guardians doing anything substantial. Falcon flew a bit and Bucky shot his gun.

If you're asking why Captain Marvel was in the movie, it makes as much sense as any character.

Spoiler

Many of those appearances like Black Panther?s, Spider-Man?s and Dr. Strange?s were largely ostentation, ?looky-here, all heroes on screen,? validation that they were indeed back from the dust; there was no impression given that any one of them was there to make the pivotal difference, but were there for the campy ?winning together? denouement. Captain Marvel, on the other hand, was there from the beginning of the film asserting herself as the alpha who pretty much tells us that our Earthly problems are just that, and but a drop in the cosmic bucket. Then she disappears only to come back during the epic final battle where she brings the melee to a grinding halt as everyone stares slack-jawed as she single-handedly brings downs Thanos? ship. She WAS fed to us as the pivotal linchpin for the allies? success in the face of insurmountable odds? then she got slapped around and tossed into a boulder.

I?m not saying she shouldn?t have been in the movie, I?m just saying they oversold her throughout for her to do as little as she did. I think instead of engaging Thanos, maybe she should have taken on more of the thousands of fodder he brought with him, thin their numbers in grand spectacle, bring down all of those huge flying Gears of War-looking thingies, etc.; we should have seen more of her unbridled power and less of her dissonantly struggling in hand-to-hand combat with the antagonist, use the excuse that she didn?t want to hurt the protagonists near him or something, I dunno, anything better than how they ultimately used her in that scene.

Just my take but I thought that everyone was getting a punch in on Thanos. I thought they were trying to show that brawn wont win this one, even together.

Also, I know its only a few extra scenes but adding more minion killing wouldnt have done it for me. She already killed spaceship minion, that was enough. The last battle was great but it was just a bunch of people punting a football towards a van. There is only so much that of that that I could stand.

And why do you think she was sent to solve all MCU problems? What in Captain Marvel (movie) told us that? She solved an issue (same as any other MCU movie) but now somehow that means she's supposed to be the only problem solver in the MCU? She literally tells the Leftovers that they're good enough and she has other issues to solve.

But, I would agree, more blast over punching, considering that's how the last movie ended. She blasted instead of punched... becuase anything else doesnt make sense. It's like a bad guy, with a gun, moves forward towards a protaganist so they can go hand to hand. Shouldnt that be in some henchman manual somewhere? Gun are best used at a distance.

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Oh, I?ve not even seen the Captain Marvel standalone film; I?m saying that within the context of this film, they made her out to be the strongest ally the Avengers had, i.e.: saving Iron Man from literally light-years away when no one else could, the whole ?where were YOU when shit hit the fan?? speech, her unflapping attitude when staring down Thor (a literal GOD,) then the story took every opportunity to remove her from the immediate fray just so they could bring her back when all seemed lost by punching through a spaceship with less effort than it takes a mortal to punch the straw through a Capri Sun. She was sold (to me, anyway) as the game changer, but ended up being little more than another one ?punting the football towards a van.? Yes, every one DID get a shot in on Thanos, I just feel I was led to believe her punches would have been more than marginally more effective. If nothing else, this makes me want to see her movie now which is more than I can say about any other hero in the mix; I?m good with ?the gist? for everyone else, but I honestly want to see what Captain Marvel is capable of when she?s not sidelined in the interest of ?The Iron Man, Captain America and Thor? show.

 

[Marik2]

The only decent movies this franchise spanned were the captain murica movies, doctor strange, ultron, black panther, iron man, guardians 1, and infinity war. The rest were average or forgettable.

this movie was such a let down after infinity war

Also after Marvel making such a big fucking deal about Captain Marvel in anticipation of the Avengers finale.

Glad I skipped over Captain Marvel. It's a shame that the marketing hyped her up to be a powerful person that would tip the scale against Thanos, but she was there for 5 minutes.

 

[Saelune]

I cried. When everyone shows up for the final fight, I actually started crying. It was the Airport scene x3000 (actually more, but I am making a reference to the film).

There is a better version of the MCU that could have existed, but I never imagined this could ever have existed as a child.

Every MCU hater can go suck an egg.

Also I love the middle finger to all the sexists. I honestly just don't care, sexists can go suck an egg too.

I did not care for Captain Marvel's Tasha Yar cosplay though.

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