Sony Admits Private PSN Info Has Been Stolen - All Of It

[RA92]

It's funny how Sony fanboys are still defending Sony even though they have been potentially fucked over by not getting this info at least a week earlier when it was available to Sony.

And God help you if you think Geohotz's firmware hacking has anything to do with Sony's network hacking. Even if - if - by some outlandish circumstances this is all Geohotz's fault, the fact that one compromise on the client side can take down an entire network only goes further to show Sony's utter incompetence.

And seriously people, there's a difference between 'hacking' and 'DDOS'ing', so stop blaming Anon without any evidence.

 

[Drummah]

Joke's on them, I have no money to steal.

Maxed credit card for the win!

 

[ReaperzXIII]

Wow ... This is just horrendous. They waited a week to tell anyone this, the flippin' idiots ... I dont know how PS3 "fanboys" can even attempt to rectify this. I heard arguments saying that it was "Free" and as such "Shouldnt complain its down" but just because its free doesnt mean people should lose credit card information.

I cant even come up with any idea how Sony are going to make this up to their customers.

Yep, them being hacked is their fault(!)

Well here is the thing it is like 1 man/small group sneaking into the US treasury and taking everything of value, the fact that 1 person/a few people managed to sneak past all their security kinda means they need to re-evaluate their security.

It may not be their fault but customers trusted them with their information and that trust was betrayed.

Its like letting someone hold your passport and ended up having it stolen, they should've been more careful of that sort of thing.

 

[SlasherX]

It
Only
Does
Identity Theft

THERE GOES MY HERO WATCH HIM AS HE GOES

Fucking 5 star post

 

[Theseus32]

Not really, no. I'm anon and I'm an insurance broker. I'm a suit. A stuffed shirt. About as far from being a hipster as humanly possible. The other anons I know of are as radically diverse a group as can be imagined. But they're not the ones who draw attention. This is not an accident. Mark my words, there are plenty of "real" hackers within anon. But having an obvious media presence of hyperactive teen suicide skiddies makes for wonderful cover when you're really planning something. Are the things done criminal? Occasionally. (I of course have NOTHING to do with any malfeasance... As far as you know.) But any investigations into such are hobbled by having to separate out those with real skill from those just being loud and obnoxious. It turns any criminal investigation into a game of where's waldo.

The point being, there's more going on within anon than even most anons are aware of. So was this an Anonymous hack? Dunno. It has the skill, but lacks the style, so far. It remains to be seen what will be done with the data.

Considering how nebulous you try to make it sound, you also are trying to properly define it. Maybe you're just being meta and applying that whole Anon cover to confuse people.

And it is kind of obvious that being a hipster negates not being a hipster, which is what they are.

Not trying to be meta, only pointing out that even with the sheer random and untethered nature of anon there is at least a... system behind it. And it is self-regulating in the respect that stupid ideas tend to get shot down (most of the time anyway). And it's not really all that confusing. There are loud anons who draw attention away from the ones who do the real work. It's a self referential smoke screen. Not by design, necessarily, but it does work toward that end. Look at the mastercard attacks. Hackers with botnets ten-thousand strong and who gets arrested? the jackass 17 year olds who forgot to use the hive mode. They get picked up, the feds pat themselves on the back, and nothing of value is lost. And the arrested individual gets to say "Sorry mr fed sir, unsecured network. Why u mad tho?"

As to the hipster accusation, sure, there are some. Look at mootle for chrissakes. But again they are treated with the same disdain as any other minority. Like the irish!

 

[greenitedaze]

S O N Y

make believe


it's all in the slogan !

 

[Dr. wonderful]

Am I the only person who's feeling rather calm about all this? Sure, I'm not happy, but A) the few places that share my PSN password are places that aren't worth hacking into (like pop culture chat forums), and B) I regularly check my VISA statement and can quickly rectify any transactions that are unauthorized. Furthermore, what are the odds that I'll even get hacked out of all the information taken?

With vast odds against being hacked and the attention to counter it if I do, I should be fine.

I'm rather calm as well.

I used PSN cards and my Credit card number been changed years ago.
My password is my sister name.
and I only had a $ 1.67 in my Account.

What could go wrong?

Captcha: Renaming.

I think Captcha is alive.

 

[Diligent]

Good going, Sony.

Your system is about as stable and secure as... something instable and insecure.

A schizophrenic with an eating disorder?
A tightrope walker with acrophobia?
A vial of francium balanced on a pinhead?


Yeah, good job Sony! I'm glad I've never put my credit card info in there.

 

[Jabberwock King]

Common sense would dictate that this is the worst time to get a PS3 or anything associated with it, but I say that when all of this is cleared up, Sony will probably have invested in cutting edge security. As an example, after 9/11 security was overhauled and put on steroids. Its a callous example, but the basic parallels are there. I'd wait a little bit before rushing to a retailer though.

 

[Jopoho]

It's a good thing I never had money for a PS3. Now I won't have my money stolen!

 

[Juventus]

Do you realize just how stupid and generalized that statement is? This is by no means an innocent by-standard who is not capable of defending themselves or was pure of all crime. Nor was this even a rape by ANY metaphorical means.

Time and time again sony says it "may have" or "had the potential" of having its data stolen. Thats more of a cat-call or a awkward stare from a male than a rape. "he had the potential to rape me but i dont really know if he did, or if i was even raped"

They stored OTHER peoples data, they are more of a bank than an innocent women. And if a bank gets robbed odds are it wasent protected well enough, or its something major and they should have done something to stop the bleeding 6 days ago. Incompetence is far from Victim in the business world.

Your twisting what happened to the extreme in an attempt to get people to side with you.

In military terms: Charline Lima Foxtrot Delta.

In civi terms: Calm the F*#k down.

incompetence is one thing. why are we assuming they KNEW the info was stolen days ago? we don't know that

please stop defending the criminals. i could beat the crap out of you in real life, does that mean you deserved it because you are a weak person?

 

[Theseus32]

Common sense would dictate that this is the worst time to get a PS3 or anything associated with it, but I say that when all of this is cleared up, Sony will probably have invested in cutting edge security. As an example, after 9/11 security was overhauled and put on steroids. Its a callous example, but the basic parallels are there. I'd wait a little bit before rushing to a retailer though.

I'd almost want to credit this whole thing to MSN, but I don't think they're that clever. Either way, good time to have microsoft stock.

 

[Darks63]

Oh great I really love how you had to put in your credit card in order to get a psn id when they cant even protect the data.

 

[Owyn_Merrilin]

for all the idiots who say it's Sony's fault for getting hacked, do you think women also deserve to be raped because they dress sexy?

think how stupid you sound....

No, but if they wear a literal sign around their neck that says "please screw me," and don't protest at all while the deed is being done, but then turn around and try to press rape charges after the fact...

yes, because i'm sure sony just loves facing a public relations nightmare,potential loss in billions from fixing costs, to lawsuits.

yeah that makes perfect sense.

You misunderstand my metaphor; I was saying that this goes beyond wearing an inviting dress, which if anything is what they did when they removed the Other OS option. The stuff I wrote down was my metaphorical description of just how weak their security was.

 

[Kinguendo]

Wow ... This is just horrendous. They waited a week to tell anyone this, the flippin' idiots ... I dont know how PS3 "fanboys" can even attempt to rectify this. I heard arguments saying that it was "Free" and as such "Shouldnt complain its down" but just because its free doesnt mean people should lose credit card information.

I cant even come up with any idea how Sony are going to make this up to their customers.

Yep, them being hacked is their fault(!)

Well here is the thing it is like 1 man/small group sneaking into the US treasury and taking everything of value, the fact that 1 person/a few people managed to sneak past all their security kinda means they need to re-evaluate their security.

It may not be their fault but customers trusted them with their information and that trust was betrayed.

Its like letting someone hold your passport and ended up having it stolen, they should've been more careful of that sort of thing.

Yeah, because small groups shouldnt try sneaking around... you need a massive army to sneak into somewhere... T_T

Yes, they need to upgrade their security... but once again the fact that an illegal act has taken place ISNT their fault as they didnt commit the illegal act. They are also the victims here. Blame the people actually doing wrong.

 

[MattAn24]

In military terms: Charline Lima Foxtrot Delta.

In civi terms: Calm the F*#k down.

Don't you mean Charlie Tango Foxtrot Delta? Don't fuck with the phonetic alphabet, something I know off by heart thanks to 8 years of Australian Air Force Cadets training.

 

[Pyrokinesis]

Yes, it was Sony who put PSN down and stole all your credit card information. They basically gave the info away, right?

No they didn't, it got HACKED, I.E gotten through illegitimate means.. Sony can't do anything about it, and that's why PSN is down and they're designing a new network now.

Is it 'Sony stole your credit card information'? No. It's 'Hackers stole your credit card information'.

Besides, if you do believe it's Sony's fault, you're the one who gave them the credit card information in the first place.. (yes I know that's a fallacy but think about it )

Tell me, If your computer is actively being hacked what do you do?

A:Run and scream in circles and cry foul

Brep your lawers and wait patiently until they are done

Cush back the security guys budget some more

DULL F%*KING PLUG ON THE SERVER/COMPUTER

Its not that hard, Im sure some downtime is better than a data compromise.

 

[randomsix]

Boys and girls, this is why it's a bad idea to use anything other than a dead drop email address to sign up for something that won't regularly send important information.

more OT: I see a lot of people lumping whoever did this together with recreational hackers, but my money says that this is a little too big for that. Individuals, and even small groups, have no use for such a large amount of information by themselves.

 

[viranimus]

Oh Sony... I see what you did there.