Sony Hit With Class Action Lawsuit Over PSN Breach

Dusk17

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Is there any point to the lawsuit? Has anyone actually had their identity stolen yet? How about this, instead of worrying about Sony, they find the one that hacked them?
 

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Frank_Sinatra_ said:
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KaosuHamoni said:
Don't get me wrong, I'm irritated at Sony, but I've been a loyal Playstation gamer since the off, and at this rate, I can see them declaring bankruptcy in the forseeable future.
I'm sure Sony as a whole won't go bankrupt, but they may choose to mop up Sony Computer Entertainment. Even if the legal fees won't kill it, the lack of trust by consumers might. Then again, that might just be the frightend gamer in me speaking.
Oh gosh, my heart just skipped a beat and I felt kinda heart broken that SCE may not survive this.
I mean, we all could guess that this wouldn't be easy to survive at all but actually seeing it written down makes me really sad.
I'm sure Naughty Dog, Sucker Punch and Team Ico aren't feeling too creative at this moment either.

It'll be a sad day in gaming if SCE dies from being quartered and incinerated like this.
 

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Forgive me for being a bit rude, but what has SONY done lately that couldn't be picked up by, say, Microsoft's gaming division if SCE goes under? They have an online network that pales compared to XBL, a motion controller that, face it, is a direct rip off of the Wii, and are falling flat on their faces in the handheld competition against Nintendo. I don't see the future of gaming being any worse off if Sony and all it's terrible PR and bad practices get pushed out of the market over this, it might even make an opening for a better company to come in and take its place.
 

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If Sony goes under I am not looking forward to another Microsoft monopoly!!! $90.00 games and $600.00 systems it will be unless Nintendo grows up! :(
 

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RedEyesBlackGamer said:
Frank_Sinatra_ said:
Casual Shinji said:
KaosuHamoni said:
Don't get me wrong, I'm irritated at Sony, but I've been a loyal Playstation gamer since the off, and at this rate, I can see them declaring bankruptcy in the forseeable future.
I'm sure Sony as a whole won't go bankrupt, but they may choose to mop up Sony Computer Entertainment. Even if the legal fees won't kill it, the lack of trust by consumers might. Then again, that might just be the frightend gamer in me speaking.
Oh gosh, my heart just skipped a beat and I felt kinda heart broken that SCE may not survive this.
I mean, we all could guess that this wouldn't be easy to survive at all but actually seeing it written down makes me really sad.
Those hackers better hope that if anyone catches them, it is the police. I understand the blunder of Sony's part, but they didn't give that info out, it was taken. And they are offering a free online service. Come on Sony, pull through! I don't want to see you go under. :(
Oh Christ they better be caught by someone other than the police.
But seriously, this does not help us in any, way, shape or form, in fact it'll probably make getting PSN back up (Goal for us) slower than some idiot getting a quick buck (Goal for idiot who SUUEEEEED).
 

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Duskflamer said:
Forgive me for being a bit rude, but what has SONY done lately that couldn't be picked up by, say, Microsoft's gaming division if SCE goes under? They have an online network that pales compared to XBL, a motion controller that, face it, is a direct rip off of the Wii, and are falling flat on their faces in the handheld competition against Nintendo. I don't see the future of gaming being any worse off if Sony and all it's terrible PR and bad practices get pushed out of the market over this, it might even make an opening for a better company to come in and take its place.
i doubt they'll die from this and if they do well i guess this world is more fucked up then i thought
 

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DanDeFool said:
Finding the hackers won't do any good at this point. The data that was stolen off PSN is probably on a hundred thousand computers all over the world by now.

And attacking Sony isn't about getting PSN back. It's about getting compensation, and, to an extent, retribution.

Assuming this breach happened due to Sony's negligence, all the PSN subscribers that were affected by this catastrophe can do now is try to *****-slap Sony hard enough that they'll pay more attention to their security practices next time.

If it wasn't due to Sony's negligence, Sony will probably fight the case and win, and won't be any worse off for it.
But I don't think that people realize the repercussions of what can happen from this. Sony itself may not go under but they might just pull the plug on Sony Computer Entertainment.
I can see it now that the fanboys will party that the PlayStation is out of the gaming race but lack of competition will lead to stagnation.
No matter what Nintendo says, they lead more to the casual gamers while the 360 and PS3 are more for hardcore gamers. Just one console for hardcore gaming? Not good.

(Before anyone says anything PC isn't added to there because there's just no way it's going under and I've never really considered it a contestant in the gaming race. PC gaming hosts the damn race.)

RedEyesBlackGamer said:
Those hackers better hope that if anyone catches them, it is the police. I understand the blunder of Sony's part, but they didn't give that info out, it was taken. And they are offering a free online service. Come on Sony, pull through! I don't want to see you go under. :(
Hopefully the gaming world will wake up and realize the repercussions that killing SCE could have.

Casual Shinji said:
I'm sure Naughty Dog, Sucker Punch and Team Ico aren't feeling too creative at this moment either.

It'll be a sad day in gaming if SCE dies from being quartered and incinerated like this.
I'll put money down that if SCE is killed by this that The Last Guardian won't see the light of day.
No matter what any fanboy can say, the death of a major player like this will be a profound loss to gaming as a whole.
 

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I can't help but feel that, in some ways, this is punishing the victim and turning attention away from the real threat.

Obviously this was bound to happen after this whole situation started, and to an extent Sony does deserve to be sued. Their lack of information on what's going on or a timeframe of how they're doing is really keeping people on edge, and they should be spreading what they know further than just their blogs.

However, the media and this lawsuit are diverting attention from what really matters; the assholes that did this in the first place. Give Sony a breather for now, and if their heads aren't too far up their asses they'll be looking for the bastard hackers that caused them to shut the service down in the first place.

And hopefully they'll find them, because I want them to be ripped a new one. Thanks to pirates and trigger-happy hackers, the legitimate consumer is getting slapped in the face and everyone is rabbling [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fEjJ4Ecy9Q] towards the people they are pissed at at the moment.

[sup]Yes, I know not all hackers are bad people, but we're talking specifically about said bad hackers.[/sup]
 

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cocoro67 said:
RedEyesBlackGamer said:
Frank_Sinatra_ said:
Casual Shinji said:
KaosuHamoni said:
Don't get me wrong, I'm irritated at Sony, but I've been a loyal Playstation gamer since the off, and at this rate, I can see them declaring bankruptcy in the forseeable future.
I'm sure Sony as a whole won't go bankrupt, but they may choose to mop up Sony Computer Entertainment. Even if the legal fees won't kill it, the lack of trust by consumers might. Then again, that might just be the frightend gamer in me speaking.
Oh gosh, my heart just skipped a beat and I felt kinda heart broken that SCE may not survive this.
I mean, we all could guess that this wouldn't be easy to survive at all but actually seeing it written down makes me really sad.
Those hackers better hope that if anyone catches them, it is the police. I understand the blunder of Sony's part, but they didn't give that info out, it was taken. And they are offering a free online service. Come on Sony, pull through! I don't want to see you go under. :(
Oh Christ they better be caught by someone other than the police.
But seriously, this does not help us in any, way, shape or form, in fact it'll probably make getting PSN back up (Goal for us) slower than some idiot getting a quick buck (Goal for idiot who SUUEEEEED.
i doubt this'll slow down getting psn back up since i don't think the same part of the company has to deal with this
 

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Which would've been a valid argument had SONY been forthright with the scope of the damages from hackers. However, they waited around and released the information days later that the scope of damages will include all personal information submitted to PSN and probably your credit card info. Therefore I see no reason to wait to hear SONYs plan to rectify the situation. If they had a plan they should've released it with their previous press release.

As of right now it is the PSN customer base that is frantically taking action to prevent damage to their credit. Why should they not be compensated for something SONY should be helping with.
But didn't they announce a plan to improve security, something rebuilding the entire network? That seems quite satisfactory to me in that regard. Also, is it not so that customers whose credit cards are used for illicit purposes shall receive recompense?

I am not advocating that Sony should not be held liable in any further way, but slapping them with class action lawsuits (and on "our behalf", no less. What fucking nerve.) at this point is an unnecessary pre-emptive action that reeks of opportunism and greed.

Sony screwed the pooch, no doubt, and they will pay dearly. However, if a lawsuit is the proper course, then time will tell.
 

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The breach occurred around the time the PSN and such were shut down, not recently. Sony only bothered to recently admit info was breached, then said they have already contacted PSN users to let them know about it.

And just saying, but I STILL haven't gotten any emails or the like detailing anything they promised what they'd send out.
Ive still not had anything either, my boyfriend had an email earlier today but still nothing for me or my friends. Starting to wonder whether their just sending out emails to a random few and hoping for the best
 

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NicoDK said:
Yes, please. Go ahead and kill the company, we need more salt in the wound.
Accualy, forget the salt and bring the fucking acid.

It's like the ENTIRE FREAKING WORLD forgot what the word HACKED means.

I would seriously considder hacking the dickfaces doing this and then sue them over not being 100% hack proof, if you know, I didn't have anyting else to do.
Lots of talk and not so much action.

Anway, they are not being sued for not being 100 % hackproof, they are being sued because they said that they could keep it safe and they lied. There are laws against screwing up this badly. You can't just say "Whops we got hacked and 77 millions people got their identity stolen, no biggie". Laws!
 

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Duskflamer said:
Forgive me for being a bit rude, but what has SONY done lately that couldn't be picked up by, say, Microsoft's gaming division if SCE goes under? They have an online network that pales compared to XBL, a motion controller that, face it, is a direct rip off of the Wii, and are falling flat on their faces in the handheld competition against Nintendo. I don't see the future of gaming being any worse off if Sony and all it's terrible PR and bad practices get pushed out of the market over this, it might even make an opening for a better company to come in and take its place.
Nobody wants your flamebait here. Thank you, and good day!
 

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Dusk17 said:
Is there any point to the lawsuit? Has anyone actually had their identity stolen yet? How about this, instead of worrying about Sony, they find the one that hacked them?
a) nothing stops ambulance chasers. If anything I'm amazed it took this long to get started. I knew it would happen if credit card information was stolen and used, but stress of changing passwords? Costs of issuing new cards? Seems petty even for lawyers.

b) I doubt anyone that could pull this off will be easy to find. This isn't a file sharer that doesn't know to to hide their identity from the RIAA. I would at least like to know if authorities have been brought in yet. Maybe their tech guys can get faster information than Sony's tech guys did.
 

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Oh come on, that's just wrong...

I mean, they can't promise impossible to crack software and seriously "compensation for the "extra time, effort, and costs"" what's next, "compensation for not being able to play on PSN"?

Seriously, I hope Sony's lawyers kick this one back and avoid paying that stuff back.

Then again, maybe I'm just saying that cause I didn't have credit card info on PSN that could've leaked. But still I say in-PSN bonuses and compensation would've been enough IMHO.
 

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You know, deep down inside, I feel for the gamers that have a PS3 (my uncle included, which I broke the news to him about the potential data being stolen last night - sad thing is is that the credit card he used ONCE on the PSN might have been the same one he used to pre-order my DNF Balls of Steel Edition X.X) and for the people that attempt to eck out a living by working for Sony and the families they support.

That being said, when I see things like Sony saying other handheld systems aren't for self-respecting adults and such and then things like this happen, I feel indifferent to the company and its CEOs. This is karma at its ultimate extreme. Granted, the hacker that caused this cascading shitstorm needs to be found, sued and strung up by his testicles and beaten severely with a blunt object while yelling at him "This is the reason why we can't have nice things!", but Sony earned its fair share of enmity as well.

In the end, though, it's mostly the decent people who get hurt the most by events like these and all we can do now is learn from what has transpired and attempt to not repeat the history that has been unfolded before our eyes.
 

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Shycte said:
Anway, they are not being sued for not being 100 % hackproof, they are being sued because they said that they could keep it safe and they lied. There are laws against screwing up this badly. You can't just say "Whops we got hacked and 77 millions people got their identity stolen, no biggie". Laws!
Of course they said it was safe, and it probably was! Anything running on electricity could be hacked, its not like these hackers just waltzed in and stole the information (which may or may not have been compromised depending on if you read the media or Sony itself). Sure, it's a huge fuck up, I'm not denying that, but lieing? Really? Does telling the truth before and then that truth being broken retroactively turn that truth into a lie?

Half-lies of Quarter-truths! So...one-eighth Luths or Ties...wait...
 

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Shirokurou said:
Oh come on, that's just wrong...

I mean, they can't promise impossible to crack software and seriously "compensation for the "extra time, effort, and costs"" what's next, "compensation for not being able to play on PSN"?

Seriously, I hope Sony's lawyers kick this one back and avoid paying that stuff back.

Then again, maybe I'm just saying that cause I didn't have credit card info on PSN that could've leaked. But still I say in-PSN bonuses and compensation would've been enough IMHO.
a free game would be nice but i don't really care i just want it back so i can activate portal 2 on steam