Sony: Move's Buttons Make it More Hardcore
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I think Sony's Move is an excellent balance between Wii and Microsoft's motion sensors. It has buttons (so it's not gone over the hill with motion control like Kinect) and it has good games and better motion sensitivity than Wii's controller.
I may be the only one, but I don't think the Move (yeah with its lollipop appearance) looks all that bad.
Bottom line: you can play decent games with integrated motion sensors and joypad buttons.
Fuck you Nintendo. This is what happens when all your games are for the age group 10 and under.
Fuck you Microsoft. We want games, not something to hold as we dance around our room.
I may be the only one, but I don't think the Move (yeah with its lollipop appearance) looks all that bad.
Bottom line: you can play decent games with integrated motion sensors and joypad buttons.
Fuck you Nintendo. This is what happens when all your games are for the age group 10 and under.
Fuck you Microsoft. We want games, not something to hold as we dance around our room.
Not really since it's just supposed to be a humorous advertisement. I don't think there are enough "Kevin Buttler Haters" that will jump on the opportunity to brag that the Move didn't sell as well as Buttler said it would (if that is the case).KingKamor said:
You're taking his commercials too seriously. Like I said, grow a sense of humor. You can hate him if you want, but going crazy over him being confident in the company he's working for is a bit much.
Fine, maybe I did fly off the handle a little bit, but that doesn't mean that I don't have a sense of humor. Mine is simply different from yours. Just because his joke was a flop for me doesn't mean that you have to tell me to grow a sense of humor. Jokes flop. It happens. Get over it.Jumplion said:
I've NEVER THOUGHT OF IT THAT WAY, dood...FargoDog said:
Anyway, I can't really bring myself to dig the Move or Kenkic, or however its spelled. And I'm tempted to bash someone for asserting their controller's status as "hard core," a term I despise with a great passion. That aside, I'm not going to be rushing to pick up the Move, mostly because of the whole "You need a camera" thing it's got going. I"m a college Student, I can't throw down a bazillion dollars for a new add on to a system that maybe two games I'm interested in are gonna use.
o....kay? How exactly do buttons make something more "hardcore"? If anything "hardcore" gamers play stuff like Mario, Zelda, and a lot of other stuff on the Wii that have motion control
It's sad that 90% of the wii's games give the 10% of good "hardcore" (whatever that means anymore) a bad name.megaman24681012 said:
Though I did detect a little sarcasm in Timelord's post
I just realized that not the buttons make a game hardcore, but there are no hardcore/casual games at all. Everything depends on how you play a game. You can play Doom 3 casually and you can play the hell out of WiiSports having the highest highscores in every game.
P.S.
You know what else has buttons?
The controller that Sony is copying. ;-)
P.S.
You know what else has buttons?
The controller that Sony is copying. ;-)
The wiimote has buttons and nobody thinks its hardcore... at all. Your argument has been invalidated. It is nice to be able to press buttons and not have to deal with the kind of flailing around inherent to sketchy input controls but if you say buttons make it superior then why not just, you know, make a regular controller where all input is definite and not mess with the imprecision of motion controls. This stinks of developers who want to jump on the bandwagon but have no idea how to jump on. They want to make the step but totally lack the mindset to do it properly.
A wiimote has even more buttons, actually.Not G. Ivingname said:
Although i could see where sony is getting at, having the precision of the move and the kinect is vital for a "hardcore" game, at least hardcore in my definition, as in difficult. And it also requires buttons, which sony also pointed out.
Myself, I'm not interested in either of the motion conrollers.
So let me get this straight. Kevin Butler bases part of his E3 speech on not falling into the hardcore/casual bullshit trap, in fact this is probably the only thing out of Kevin Butler's annoying meme-spouting mouth that makes sense to me (yes I said it, he's annoying, it's called an opinion, deal with it. That E3 speech of his was 5 minutes of my life I'd like back, but I digress). Which then goes straight into this. The idea that Buttons = Hardcore. Which basically points out that Sony's left hand doesn't know what it's right hand is doing at any given point in time, and thus this stupid idea of "hardcore vs. casual" will continue until the game industry gets sick of it and finds some other fake competition to create.
Anyway, let's review what we know about the Move.
1. Lollipop
2. Has buttons
3. First Person Shooters (which are apparently the only defining factor of "hardcore") are a part of its library.
Let's review what we know about the Wiimote
1. Not a Lollipop
2. Has buttons
3. First Person shooters are a part of its library to varying degrees of success.
Huge differences, I'm sure. However let it be said that I agree you need some form of tactile input to really have a good game experience from my POV. I don't think Kinect is going to do very well in having absolutely no buttons, no feedback, no nothing.
Anyway, let's review what we know about the Move.
1. Lollipop
2. Has buttons
3. First Person Shooters (which are apparently the only defining factor of "hardcore") are a part of its library.
Let's review what we know about the Wiimote
1. Not a Lollipop
2. Has buttons
3. First Person shooters are a part of its library to varying degrees of success.
Huge differences, I'm sure. However let it be said that I agree you need some form of tactile input to really have a good game experience from my POV. I don't think Kinect is going to do very well in having absolutely no buttons, no feedback, no nothing.
I think people missunderstood Richard Marks statement. He didn't say buttons makes a game hardcore, he said it's vital for a hardcore game.
Edit: And I belive that although they are making a bunch of casual oriented games, the key selling point of the move is that it's a hardcore wii (although I suppose HD has something to do with it too).
Edit: And I belive that although they are making a bunch of casual oriented games, the key selling point of the move is that it's a hardcore wii (although I suppose HD has something to do with it too).