Square-Enix Still Isn't Remaking FF7

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I get the feeling that SqEnix has something against money. Maybe someone over there has a fear of drowning in all the money they'd make on a remake?
 

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I've never understood the point of remakes for games.

I mean, of course I get that it's about money- but I'm talking about the fans that want one. Does it really change anything? Rarely do they change anything or make it any "better." If a game truly is as amazing and timeless as you say it is, why would you want beg so desperately for a company to throw some new paint on it and tell you its better now?

I can understand that visuals look dated, but that's half the fun/point of putting on the rose-tinted glasses for a few hours when cleaning out the house. Same reason I was never too excited for StarCraft II or Diablo III until I saw the differences in them. Sprites and 2D animations in their previous iterations are brilliant and charming even to this day and how "simple" they look.
 
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Just make Kingdom Hearts 3 among others and just leave Final Fantasy alone for a few years after the FFXIII universe is wrapped up. I know the gap in dev time didn't help FF XII and FF XIII be amazing games but the FF XIII battle system had potential but for the love of god stop with the Sphere Grid/Crystarium/Licence Board crap. They are shit growth systems.

Square and Enix should have never got together and stayed apart but if they can get their shit together they might be good again.
 
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BehattedWanderer said:
John Funk said:
In all of gaming-dom, is there a project more desperately desired and imagined than a current-gen remake of Square-Enix's legendary Final Fantasy VII?
An international release of Mother 3?

...said it wasn't a priority for Square-Enix. Rather, said Nomura, Square-Enix wanted to make new games that it hoped would equal or even surpass the titans of ages past.
And they intend to match the might of sluggers like Chrono Trigger, Secret of Mana, Super Mario RPG, Kingdom Hearts and Final Fantasy III/VI by continuously making new, sleep-inducing, bland, uncharismatic FF sequels?

Good luck with that.
So another mother 3 fan, I love loved the game and the effort put into the fan translation for it however even if that game was brought over it would have to be localized.
 

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Exactly folks, it's too much work updating one of the most beloved games ever made and thus guaranteeing themselves millions.
Obviously the money and priorities lie with time-travelling Moogles.
 
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CrazyGirl17 said:
I like FFVII... but I'd just settle for a good game, or at least for them to make Kingdom Hearts 3... (Though if they are remaking a game, why does it have to be FFX?!)

Innegativeion said:
Nicolaus99 said:
Squenix: "Supply? Demand? lolwhut? How about some FF XIV instead?"

The really sick part is that if some fans up and did it themselves, Squenix would send lawyers to shut them down.
Wouldn't be the first time


Sometimes, when I need a good cry, I just curl up, think of what could have been, and weep.
...Wow... that looks awesome... Fuckin' Square-Enix...
i weep every-time my self.. also was this being made using the dragon quest 8 engine?? Also for those who don't know Dragon Quest V had a full ps2 remake "japan only" before the ds port.
 

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Makes you wonder if Square Enix are specifically aiming for the position of "most retarded and incompetent games development studio" these days? Or if they just have a crippling phobia of money and success? The games they HAVE been making recently certainly seem to support this position.

l3o2828 said:
But, Kitase sucks ass...And every single FF game after X sucked ass...
I...You know what Square?
I don't care, Atlus provides better than you in every way so frankly, take your subpar JRPG games with you, i have a Persona 5 and SMT4 To look up to.
Uh wasn't Strange Journey SMT 4...? I'm pretty sure it was, even if it didn't get the number on the box.
 

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When i saw he title of this thread my mind read it as "Square-Enix Still Remaking FF7", a guy can dream can't he? To be fair i'm surprised they haven't remade all the popular old ones, that would be a very deep gold mine if they did, i know i'd buy them all (provided there was a pc version, hell id probably buy a ps3 if i really had to for them).
 

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Amnestic said:
John Funk said:
Nomura did reveal a little bit of trivia about Final Fantasy VII's development, however. Optional party member Yuffie Kisaragi was initially planned to be a wanted criminal instead of just a perkily annoying Materia thief, and the players would see different wanted posters for her all around the grimy metropolis of Midgar. The trick was that each poster would have a different face on it, and when you finally met Yuffie her appearance would change depending on which poster you'd last viewed.
Sounds like a pretty cool idea all things considered. Shame it never made it into the game.

I don't know why people want remakes so much. The game's still available to play and according to a quick wiki it's available for purchase on the PSN. What's stopping you from enjoying some 15 year old retro goodness? Graphics don't make the game guys!
True but it doesn't play like a modern game, so maybe people want to see improvements to its archaic systems. Also a remake would still be expected to have a significant number of additions, little tweaks, more lore and secrets for dedicated players to pick up on. I think the clamor for the remake is simply as strong as it is because there was a time when we were literally sure we were getting one.
 

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I loved Yuffie...her Vincent and Cloud ended up being my main party.

As for the article though, it's too bad they aren't planning a remake or, re-release for FF7. I personally despised XIII and think it would be less work overall to re-make FF7 for a handheld (be it vita, 3DS, iOS or all three) then it would have been/currently is to maintain FFXI and, FFIVX servers. Then again, I have no idea what goes into maintaining an MMO's servers or what other internal work is required at all...I just dislike MMOs in general. Also, if FF7 were suddenly announced as a PSV exclusive I guarantee they would outsell the 3DS before the month is out.

ForgottenPr0digy said:
where's my final fantasy VIII remake?
I can see this being done as a hilarious troll move on Square-Enix part. I look forward to them revealing game footage of that and a remake of FF9 4-1-2013. In all seriousness though, I would love to see a remake or, re-release of 8 and 9. Loved the Junction system and, how easy it was to shatter it.
 

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Suicidejim said:
inb4 FF7 hate. Also, while I love that game, and would love to have a remake, I'd happily settle for non-awful Final Fantasy games in general.
^ THIS. FFXIII was just awful... XII wasn't much better... didn't bother with XI as it was an MMORPG... didn't get into IX as the chars looked too much like kids... and VIII uh... meh.

When Hope in FFXIII was whining -backstory- whatever blahdiblahdiblahOMGJUSTSHUTUP... well, pretty much for all the characters. I didn't care about ANY of them.

X was good though - well, the first one - not that "I didn't get to play with dollies as a child" sequel ... terrible voice acting aside...

I kind of MISS the old battle styles. Now everything has to be flashy/fast/combos/seemless integration... and f*ck kids as main characters... just... no.

So... what was the point again? Hmm. Oh yeah. FFVII remake would be nice - AS LONG as it's not retarded like pretty much everything after it.
 

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Square-Enix wants to focus on making new games? Well there's the biggest crock of shit if I've ever heard it. Not only have they remade pretty much every other FF that came out before it (add FF10 to the list now), he then throws us that nonsense? Oh Lord, not sure if I should be insulted or laugh at the utter cognitive dissonance of it.

Songblade said:
Suicidejim said:
inb4 FF7 hate. Also, while I love that game, and would love to have a remake, I'd happily settle for non-awful Final Fantasy games in general.
^ THIS. FFXIII was just awful... XII wasn't much better... didn't bother with XI as it was an MMORPG... didn't get into IX as the chars looked too much like kids... and VIII uh... meh.

When Hope in FFXIII was whining -backstory- whatever blahdiblahdiblahOMGJUSTSHUTUP... well, pretty much for all the characters. I didn't care about ANY of them.

X was good though - well, the first one - not that "I didn't get to play with dollies as a child" sequel ... terrible voice acting aside...

I kind of MISS the old battle styles. Now everything has to be flashy/fast/combos/seemless integration... and f*ck kids as main characters... just... no.

So... what was the point again? Hmm. Oh yeah. FFVII remake would be nice - AS LONG as it's not retarded like pretty much everything after it.
It's amazing how utterly wrong you are. It really is quite fascinating.
 

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Waaghpowa said:
Yet they're going to do an HD FF10. It's obvious that they're not going to remake FF7 because of the money and time required to update it. It's the reason why there are so many HD collections from the last gen, all they do is widen the aspect ratio and resell it, which is significantly less work and money than updating a PS1 game. It all reeks of laziness and greed.

What's silly is I think that a FF7 remake would make a lot of money, but they wont do it because of the risks. I would have bought it, FF7 was literally the only FF game I could finish aside from Tactics.
One thing I think you, and many ignorant gamers, fail to realize is that while yes it might make a shit ton of money in sales, but if the project also costs a shit ton of money to produce then the amount of money that Square-Enix would actually see out of it would actually be quite small, if any. And if Square-Enix doesn't think there'd be a significant enough return on their investment, they're not going to green light a project. You can call them greedy and lazy if you want to, but they need to make money if they're going to continue to make games for you to consume and enjoy.

As for me, I wish people would STFU about FFVII. Hoenstly I don't see why it deserves such legendary status. Not that it was a bad game by any means; hell it's one of the few Final Fantasy games I've ever finished and it was the first I ever played. However, it isn't the best Final Fantasy game I've played and it certainly hasn't aged well.
 

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Nomura, if they want to surpass FF7, they need to realize twitch-based menu navigation, 15minute trash battles, games being 99% cut-scene, limiting player influence in the game to near zero, and tubes are not the future of the JRPG.

The FF team needs to send some spies over to Atlus and do exactly what they do with some FF flair, then maybe they'll regain your place as the respected king of the genre instead of the fat, bloated, impotent, ruler they are, holding the crown only because of fanatical devotion rather than praiseworthy action.
 

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canadamus_prime said:
Waaghpowa said:
Yet they're going to do an HD FF10. It's obvious that they're not going to remake FF7 because of the money and time required to update it. It's the reason why there are so many HD collections from the last gen, all they do is widen the aspect ratio and resell it, which is significantly less work and money than updating a PS1 game. It all reeks of laziness and greed.

What's silly is I think that a FF7 remake would make a lot of money, but they wont do it because of the risks. I would have bought it, FF7 was literally the only FF game I could finish aside from Tactics.
One thing I think you, and many ignorant gamers, fail to realize is that while yes it might make a shit ton of money in sales, but if the project also costs a shit ton of money to produce then the amount of money that Square-Enix would actually see out of it would actually be quite small, if any. And if Square-Enix doesn't think there'd be a significant enough return on their investment, they're not going to green light a project. You can call them greedy and lazy if you want to, but they need to make money if they're going to continue to make games for you to consume and enjoy.

As for me, I wish people would STFU about FFVII. Hoenstly I don't see why it deserves such legendary status. Not that it was a bad game by any means; hell it's one of the few Final Fantasy games I've ever finished and it was the first I ever played. However, it isn't the best Final Fantasy game I've played and it certainly hasn't aged well.
Man you must work at Square if you have such in-depth knowledge about the development costs of the game. I mean, we all know most AAA games these days are super duper cheap and these huge corporations don't have any any money to spare, so you have to be absolutely right, being as well informed as you clearly are, that Square couldn't possibly see a profit from this venture.
 

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Goddammit guys.

One of the biggest names in the stagnating Japanese gaming industry wants to actually try new things and we all hate them for it.
 

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SmarterThanYou said:
Scars Unseen said:
Honestly, I think they should make an open world (single player) ARPG title. ].
They did, it was called Final Fantasy XII.
Eh... I would say that FFXII(which is my favorite FF in the past several years) was open-ish at best. Certainly better than FFX or FFXII in that regard, but then a noose would be less restrictive than either of those games. Also? Not an ARPG.

The thing that does it for me with Dark Souls and (hopefully) Dragon's Dogma is that it is nice to see a Japanese take on what was traditionally a western style of game. With Capcom you get a high action game(at least that's what I got from the demo) which makes sense because that is what they've historically done best. From obviously is channeling King's Field with their Souls games. It would be kind of cool to see what Squeenix's take would be since they have so many franchises to take inspiration from.

Of course, that could validate your post completely if you wanted to interpret FFXII as Squeenix taking the open world concept and making it less open. That would kind of keep the above theme going, though not in a completely positive way.
 

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canadamus_prime said:
Waaghpowa said:
Yet they're going to do an HD FF10. It's obvious that they're not going to remake FF7 because of the money and time required to update it. It's the reason why there are so many HD collections from the last gen, all they do is widen the aspect ratio and resell it, which is significantly less work and money than updating a PS1 game. It all reeks of laziness and greed.

What's silly is I think that a FF7 remake would make a lot of money, but they wont do it because of the risks. I would have bought it, FF7 was literally the only FF game I could finish aside from Tactics.
One thing I think you, and many ignorant gamers, fail to realize is that while yes it might make a shit ton of money in sales, but if the project also costs a shit ton of money to produce then the amount of money that Square-Enix would actually see out of it would actually be quite small, if any. And if Square-Enix doesn't think there'd be a significant enough return on their investment, they're not going to green light a project. You can call them greedy and lazy if you want to, but they need to make money if they're going to continue to make games for you to consume and enjoy.

As for me, I wish people would STFU about FFVII. Hoenstly I don't see why it deserves such legendary status. Not that it was a bad game by any means; hell it's one of the few Final Fantasy games I've ever finished and it was the first I ever played. However, it isn't the best Final Fantasy game I've played and it certainly hasn't aged well.
You know that's what I was saying right? They don't think there would be a significant return on the game. Which is precisely why they're not doing FF7 and why they're all ok with doing HD versions of all the games from last gen. It's cheap and easy and guaranteed to get a decent return. I would say it's both lazy and greedy to capitalize on peoples own ignorance for purchasing the same game from last gen that required little work to produce, since the game was already made.