Take a Peek at New TV Wonder Woman's Boobalicious Duds
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Agreed. Looks like an outfit out of a WW parody porn that The Cinema Snob would review. And that above outfit is awesome. Why not use that? The woman is a better fit too.Dak_N_Jaxter said:
Actually, I think either of those would have been a great alternative. I kinda like the new comic look (I'm not a comic reader, my main exposure to superheroes is TV and movies) as it actually looks like something you could fight in. And that second one looks waaaay better than the TV show. Is that a costume or something someone made for cos-play? Either way it is EPIC!bahumat42 said:
Seriously, if that is their costume, it looks weak. I've seen cos-play costumes far better than it in terms of quality. Looks like they ran to a costume shop. No, not even that good. Walmart.
If I were in charge of this, I'd send that costume back to the drawing board. I heard people complaining that Christian Bale's Batman costume looks like a guy dressing up as Batman- at least that looked like a costume that somebody spent some time and money on.
Cute girl but her fake tits are spaced to far apart. Producers, we prefer it when both globes are smashed together, space where there should be cleavage just equals a horrible boob job. I'd rather see the new look on WW for a TV show, a strong female role model who isnt just a set of tits and ass.
Well, as I've said before, this character has WAY too much political baggage attached to it to be done well nowadays. The idea of empowerment embodied by Wonder Woman is differant from the modern, politically correct ideal. My thoughts on modern feminism in general didn't go over too well last time I expressed them, but the bottom line is the conflicts involving it in all of it's forms come to a head here.
What's more, Wonder Woman is one of those big super heroes that actually never was. She's maintained a consistant comic book prescence, but has never had the kind of iconic success of the comic titans, Batman and Superman, who is she oftentimes portrayed as standing alongside. Her promotion largely being due to the fact that she's one of the longest running female super heroes, not so much because of any kind of truely massive popularity (though she's never been unpopular so to speak).
One of the big problems with the DCUO game, which I believe was mentioned a few times, is that Wonder Woman doesn't have any paticularly iconic bad guys that have mainstream recognition. Everyone knows Superman and Lex Luthor, and everyone knows Batman and The Joker, but who is Wonder Woman's iconic arch nemesis? While she has an interesting rogue's gallery she really doesn't have one, and that's why they went with Circe due to her being long running and fairly well known, but at the same time a lot of people were going "huh, who is Circe?" and among many people who did know the character they thought she was done pretty badly in trying to get her on the level of the glorious cheez that was Lex and The Joker, when as some people have pointed out Circe is actually used as a reluctant anti-hero with some frequency, and could be considered almost more of a rival of Woder Woman's with a differant perspective than an outright enemy when you look at the big picture. The plotline of DCUO having a lot of people going "WTF" since Circe wouldn't try and help summon something like Trigon, she might try and steal his power, but at the same time if something like that is coming that's typically when she winds up switching sides for at least a while.
Then again of course, how campy Wonder Woman is depends on exactly what version of the character your talking about. She's probably undergone more radical re-envisionings over a shorter period of time than most characters. Is she more of a "physical training" type character, or a powerhouse on the level of Superman? How much innate magic does she have? All of these are valid questions and can be answered radically differantly over a period of a couple decades (which sounds like a lot until you consider how old this character actually is).
I think the problem with this show is ultimatly going to be that rather than giving a consistant version of Wonder Woman from some point in the series, they are going to try and create entirely their own version based on some very basic concepts. The idea here not being any paticular love for the character, but the marketing potential in cashing in with a female super hero and the Wonder Woman name.
The costume is interesting and all, but I think sort of summarizes the problems with a show that is trying to be something specific, while only wanting to maintain the most vague connection to it.
Honestly, if it was up to me to try and launch this show I'd probably go less with the modern "grrrl power" demographic being described, and push prime time to the limits with the bondage camp (which doesn't exclusively wind up with her as the victim), or just launch it on a network like HBO. Of course then again I wouldn't be aiming for a massive success either, because I'd be very surprised if this IP could very carry that, since it never had that much of a widespread appeal to begin with.
IMO if your not going for the bondage/lesbian thing (and this sort of worked for Xena) I don't think you really need the Golden Lariet, which is somewhat out of place with an attempt to be more serious. The attempts to make Wonder Woman "Serious Buiness" have typically involving downplaying that weapon and having her head into battle with more traditional, but enchanted, weapons like swords, spears, and shields. As much as the US freaks out about sex, I will say that Prime Time seems willing to push that angle right now, a lot more than the graphic violence inherant in portraying Wonder Woman as a very violent, and very lethal, character like is the case with the serious versions.
It's also noteworthy that Wonder Woman tends to behave in a more "iconic" fashion, being an Ambassador, stealth and shadowy vigilante type stuff isn't exactly here speed usually. She's very much "here I am with a flashy costume, I'm going to walk right in the front door and pound you into goo, and I don't care if anyone sees". Indeed her arrogance is her kryptonite so to speak, and the weakness that can be most exploited, it was key to the solution Batman came up with in "Tower Of Babel" in how to disable her (as cheezy as it was).
What's more, Wonder Woman is one of those big super heroes that actually never was. She's maintained a consistant comic book prescence, but has never had the kind of iconic success of the comic titans, Batman and Superman, who is she oftentimes portrayed as standing alongside. Her promotion largely being due to the fact that she's one of the longest running female super heroes, not so much because of any kind of truely massive popularity (though she's never been unpopular so to speak).
One of the big problems with the DCUO game, which I believe was mentioned a few times, is that Wonder Woman doesn't have any paticularly iconic bad guys that have mainstream recognition. Everyone knows Superman and Lex Luthor, and everyone knows Batman and The Joker, but who is Wonder Woman's iconic arch nemesis? While she has an interesting rogue's gallery she really doesn't have one, and that's why they went with Circe due to her being long running and fairly well known, but at the same time a lot of people were going "huh, who is Circe?" and among many people who did know the character they thought she was done pretty badly in trying to get her on the level of the glorious cheez that was Lex and The Joker, when as some people have pointed out Circe is actually used as a reluctant anti-hero with some frequency, and could be considered almost more of a rival of Woder Woman's with a differant perspective than an outright enemy when you look at the big picture. The plotline of DCUO having a lot of people going "WTF" since Circe wouldn't try and help summon something like Trigon, she might try and steal his power, but at the same time if something like that is coming that's typically when she winds up switching sides for at least a while.
Then again of course, how campy Wonder Woman is depends on exactly what version of the character your talking about. She's probably undergone more radical re-envisionings over a shorter period of time than most characters. Is she more of a "physical training" type character, or a powerhouse on the level of Superman? How much innate magic does she have? All of these are valid questions and can be answered radically differantly over a period of a couple decades (which sounds like a lot until you consider how old this character actually is).
I think the problem with this show is ultimatly going to be that rather than giving a consistant version of Wonder Woman from some point in the series, they are going to try and create entirely their own version based on some very basic concepts. The idea here not being any paticular love for the character, but the marketing potential in cashing in with a female super hero and the Wonder Woman name.
The costume is interesting and all, but I think sort of summarizes the problems with a show that is trying to be something specific, while only wanting to maintain the most vague connection to it.
Honestly, if it was up to me to try and launch this show I'd probably go less with the modern "grrrl power" demographic being described, and push prime time to the limits with the bondage camp (which doesn't exclusively wind up with her as the victim), or just launch it on a network like HBO. Of course then again I wouldn't be aiming for a massive success either, because I'd be very surprised if this IP could very carry that, since it never had that much of a widespread appeal to begin with.
IMO if your not going for the bondage/lesbian thing (and this sort of worked for Xena) I don't think you really need the Golden Lariet, which is somewhat out of place with an attempt to be more serious. The attempts to make Wonder Woman "Serious Buiness" have typically involving downplaying that weapon and having her head into battle with more traditional, but enchanted, weapons like swords, spears, and shields. As much as the US freaks out about sex, I will say that Prime Time seems willing to push that angle right now, a lot more than the graphic violence inherant in portraying Wonder Woman as a very violent, and very lethal, character like is the case with the serious versions.
It's also noteworthy that Wonder Woman tends to behave in a more "iconic" fashion, being an Ambassador, stealth and shadowy vigilante type stuff isn't exactly here speed usually. She's very much "here I am with a flashy costume, I'm going to walk right in the front door and pound you into goo, and I don't care if anyone sees". Indeed her arrogance is her kryptonite so to speak, and the weakness that can be most exploited, it was key to the solution Batman came up with in "Tower Of Babel" in how to disable her (as cheezy as it was).
Well it's because DC is trying to promote Wonder Woman as a feminist icon right now, and try and present her as always having been that way (ironically) which is why things like the comic cover someone posted, and the retrospective Moviebob did on the character are noteworthy. Despite all of it's changes over the decades, Wonder Woman doesn't work all that well once she starts dressing down for modern sensibilities since the kind of empowerment she represents is exactly the opposite, even if hardly currently in vogue. The "culture shock" of the character is part of the theme.the antithesis said:Strangely, I kind of like the outfit. I'm not sure why. I think it's because different people will key on different items as essential to the character's look.
For instance, if I had to boil down the Batman outfit to it's basic component, I would say the pointy ears on the mask, the fringed cape, and the bat inside a yellow oval on the chest.
For me, Wonder Woman's costume need the strapless bustier with either has a gold eagle or two W's that look kind of like an eagle, the headband/tiara thing, and the bracelets. Everything else is optional. I don't mind the long pants or the blue boots. I think the look works. I think it works better than the new look in the comics.
Strangely, the new comics costume is similar to the TV show one, except the colors are all darker because badasses always wear black. Morons. And there's that idiotic jacket thing. I don't know. I just prefer the TV show costume at this point.
As for the show's description, I remain hesitant. Being a TV show they probably can't do the big budget stunts and special effects. Hopefully there will be some decent super heroin' action. But that it will be light-hearted comedy has me worried. If they have some good writers who actually understand that comedy is not just lame one-liners, then it might work. But it might also be painful to watch if the writing is bad and writing bad comedy is exceptionally easy.
The direction they've chosen could work and may become a hit if enough people tune in and the writing is sharp enough. But it's a direction that smacks of laziness because only fools think comedy is easy. I'll watch the pilot but if it fails to work, then it's unlikely to pull itself together long enough to find an audience.
That said, I think the costume being showed off is a sign that the TV show developers have little respect for the character other thant he name, and mostly just want the name and a vaguly similar apperance to promote their own property. I'd much prefer they took a version of the character from the comics, and stuck with it, as opposed to trying to balance it in such a way that is liable to wind up appealing to nobody for the long term.
At any rate, we'll see what happens. All I can say is that the costume could be worse, but at the same time it just doesn't really sell me on that being how she should look in a live action version.
At the same time, as sexy as it might be, dressing her up in roman style leather armor doesn't quite work either for a TV show. It's not just about making her look sexy and dominant, but doing it in such a way that represents the character.
The romanesque cosplay actually makes me think of someone going reverse-gorean (ie the Jason Marshall Gor stories in the beginning) more that someone playing Wonder Woman.
Therumancer said:
Smile when you say that!
It's true, though. There have been some horrible liberties taken with the character both in and out of comics because no one seemed to know what to do with her after William Moulton Morris died. The character was designed to be sexual in a non-conventional way and to use her without that is kind of like giving porn star Sunny Lane a children's show about sharing.
Shittiest thing I've ever seen. Wow she's got huge knockers, but it looks terrible.
Not impressed.
Not impressed.
"Everyone knows Superman and Lex Luthor, and everyone knows Batman and The Joker, but who is Wonder Woman's iconic arch nemesis?"
Well, in the days of the old Linda Carter TV series (by far her most popular portrayal, I suspect, though I don't have numbers to back that up), I would say it was Hitler. Hitler was Wonder Woman's iconic arch nemesis. Hitler.
If that's too much for a TV series in modern times, I suggest Hitler's best pal, Captain Nazi, also owned by DC comics.
Also, if someone threatened Wonder Woman with a spiked baseball bat, couldn't she just rip their arms off? I mean just based on her Justice League portrayal.
Well, in the days of the old Linda Carter TV series (by far her most popular portrayal, I suspect, though I don't have numbers to back that up), I would say it was Hitler. Hitler was Wonder Woman's iconic arch nemesis. Hitler.
If that's too much for a TV series in modern times, I suggest Hitler's best pal, Captain Nazi, also owned by DC comics.
Also, if someone threatened Wonder Woman with a spiked baseball bat, couldn't she just rip their arms off? I mean just based on her Justice League portrayal.
"slightly goofy comedy-drama ... packed with Girl Power pop-songs,"
I think I'm going to be sick.
I think I'm going to be sick.
Don't really mind the costume that much, also, costumes that look pretty bad IRL can often be made to look decent with good lighting, camera work and post-production. Not that this show's gonna have any of that, just sayin'.
For me that post began and ended with the words "Girl Power pop songs". Bringing up the mental image of the Spice Girls movie is probably the last thing you want when handling your albeit-controversial-but-still-feminist-icon-IP. Even if you're going for campy comedy, that's just a bad, bad point of reference.
From what I'm reading so far this idea seems far better suited to be a cartoon on nickelodeon aimed at teeny-bopers than a live action show.
For me that post began and ended with the words "Girl Power pop songs". Bringing up the mental image of the Spice Girls movie is probably the last thing you want when handling your albeit-controversial-but-still-feminist-icon-IP. Even if you're going for campy comedy, that's just a bad, bad point of reference.
From what I'm reading so far this idea seems far better suited to be a cartoon on nickelodeon aimed at teeny-bopers than a live action show.
